where is my c7 and first rib
 

okay, so i am actually friends with a radiologist and i'm going to send these to her.. you guys can guess here and i'll post the correct answer when i receive a response.

long story short my pt and i almost got in an argument over this.

i can't tell where my c7 is and the doctor or whoever looked at this, did not say my c7 is big and then i mentioned it to another doctor later who didn't take me seriously and said no it's fine.

anyways heres the pics, maybe my c7 from the side is big i thought that was my t1. i am confused

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4046/xneckfront.png
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7871/xneckside.png

she also said the serratus basically has zero to do with my ribs being elevated and that the best i could do was get my shoulders to stop hunching over. maybe that's true but it's kind of depressing. i did not always have elevated ribs and my scalenes are not spasming at all.

The first rib is attached to T1, so C7 is right above T1. Easy to see on xneckfront.png, maybe not so easy to identify on the side view.

If you had a cervical rib, it would be attached to C7.

thanks, that's exactly what i thought about the front view. i swear my pt was saying something weird/wrong, like what i thought was t1 was actually c7 or that you couldn't see my first rib in this..

we did not have a good session, lol. she said what difference does it make, pretty much you spend too much time on the internet, why are you analyzing this. i want to know. yeeesh!

my hands are chronically numb because my shoulders are jacked up to my ears and pinching my bp moreso than any rib/c7 stuff, so i do agree on that.

Sounds like PT is threatened by you trying to learn about your health situation??:confused:
Some PTs (& drs too) get that way...:(

yup i think youre right.

i wouldn't be bothered by it if she had been more humble..like yeah, i think might you have a bone that's large in your neck, if you really want to, you could get it xrayed from blah blah angle. but the more i question her about it, the more assertive and stubborn she is. you can't just throw something like that out there to someone who's been in pain as long as i have and not expect them to research it.

but this pt also did not think i had tos, she thought i just had rsd. which i never had.

ive learned that anyone who acts like they factually know what's going on with my "tos" or whatever is full of poop.

Easy way to tell a cervical rib is that the thoracic transverse process goes up & cervical goes down. (and no, don't have one, just a really bad xray & an excitable nature).

Did the PT do other tests to see what was wrong?

hi thanks,

no, she's saying that the transverse process is big, not that i have a cervical rib. i mentioned this to a doctor and doc said it's not based on these xrays. what i was wondering is if you can even tell if the transverse process is big here..

i have horrible circulation and winged shoulders hiked up to my ears. i can't remember what pt tests she did tbh. ive been going to pt for a year now :( i do remember i passed all of those pulse tests when turning my head

Ah, sorry. Doesn't look abnormally large to me?

A year in P/T? That is a long time for p/t - what do they say is causing your winged scalpulas?

nah that's fine! i like your name, my name is holly

my shoulders wing because theyre too loose. no muscles and the joint is very lax. im shocked i havent dislocated it

i havent been able to strengthen much because i had a bad magnesium deficiency and i was giving myself whiplash but that calmed down. but now im sort of able to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO3xmPLrvvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyWEX...1E400AB123F860
http://www.shields.com/en/AboutUs/Ne...ne%202011.ashx

*disclaimer, only will be enjoyable if you are a dork

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3862/amric.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5739/amri.png

another pic, im guessing c7 t1 area but have no clue
there it does look big :(

so im giving the radiologist the disc but she says she doesnt see anything

well my friend got other mri people to look at it and they said it's normal

im going to a different neurologist.

today the side of my neck (both sides) started hurting like nerve pain and i put my hands up and the whole area felt swollen to me.

i am wondering if it is a really delayed healing process from whiplash and inflammation or if my pt is right and the bones are compressing that area.

more confused than ever. i dont know who to trust because my pt has helped me mroe than anyone but the doctors have seen 5 billion necks so

i also think the reason my hands are numb is i have pec minor syndrome

Have you tried massage therapy to work on pec minor? They work on my pec minors both in PT and in massage therapy.

Yeah I've gotten it massaged a bunch. Now I can stretch it everyday without tingling which is good. I can't do certain arm movements tho

My calf muscles feel swollen and odd like my tos area sometimes. Can irritated nerves make the muscles feel swollen or is that really unusual?