good thoughts, and prayers requested.....
 

please send good thoughts to my mother in law. Marysue is having a total knee replacement in the morning. Jeffs brother Brian is there to help her and will be there all week. She will then be transferred to the same nursing home for physical therapy that her bed bound husband is currently staying, that is until she is well enough to bring him back home.
She is 79 and has needed this surgery for a long time.
thank you
bizi

Dear Bizi,

I send her good thoughts and prayers.

M

thoughts for your M-I-L
 

Dear Bizi,

Of course I will hold your dear mother in law Marysue in my thoughts today. I will send positive energy for a seamless surgical procedure.

Glad everything is set up for the recovery period. It will be difficult nonetheless, but at least, it sounds like things were organized as well as possible, all things considered.

comforting thoughts to Jeff and his family as well as to you ... hang in there. :circlelove:

love

~ waves ~
p.s. keep us posted as to how Marysue is doing.

sending good thoughts and prayers and a speedy recovery
love
bobby

Bizi

Sending Mary Sue good thoughts for a good surgery and speedy recovery.

I will say though, it probably will be a little longer for her to be ready
to bring her husband home with her. Than when she is ready to
come home.


I only say that because usually when coming home from the knee
replacement, they still need more therapy. So he may need to
stay just a little longer. Hoping that wont bother them.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

Thanks for the good thoughts!
She is very stubborn and will bring him home as soon as possible. I say have him stay there an extra month but that is not my $9k to contend with per month. We will see, I will keep you posted.
bizi

Hopefully her doctor wont allow that.

They will have some choice too. Weird as it sounds.

They will have say as to what she can do when she goes home.

So it might be, whether she wants to stay with him there. Or
take him at the same time.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

She did great thanks for the well wishes.
Brian kept us abreast the entire day, so that was good and reassuring.
She stands up on her knee tomorrow!
bizi

great news!
 

Thanks for the update Bizi. I'm really glad Marysue did well in the surgery. :):)

WOW!!!! :thud: talk about FAST!!! Well I hope she adjusts well and that her pain levels are relatively low. Knees are one of the most difficult areas because of the weight bearing... sigh. Anway, continuing to send her healing vibes here. ;)

~ waves ~

Sending prayers!!

Hugs for you,
Abbie

Glad she is doing so well.

Donna:grouphug:

that is so wonderful
bobby

thank you again for your good thoughts. She stands up on her leg today.
bizi

Dear Bizi,

I hope that she is progressing well.

M

She walked today and said it really hurt:(....I think that is normal.

Sending prayers Mom in law heals well, and the pain passes swiftly. I remember getting surgery on both feet in one day and the pressure on them was a killer a few days.

She is stubborn enough to tolerate the pain and walk through it will get her going, To give in and want to not use the legs will be her worse enemy.

healing thoughts for her
di

Dear Bizi

it's been a few days, do you know how she's doing?

sending her good thoughts also.

My understanding from a friend who had knee surgery is that during rehab the therapist is always present and uses the degree of pain/inflammation to establish what therapy can be done moment by moment and day by day, to maximize benefit and avoid any "unproductive" pain.

:heartthrob: waves :heartthrob:

She is doing remarkably well thanks for asking.:)
therapist said that she could probably go home in a couple of weeks.She says she is not in any pain but I don't believe her, she is a very proud and stubborn woman. I love her to pieces but I think she would say anything to get to go home as soon as possible.:rolleyes:
bizi

Wow

She is doing so much better than my mother did with either of her
knees. She is a remarkable woman too.

I would say if she is able to do this without any kind of pain medication
then she is doing this with out any pain then.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

they are really working her, I spoke with her this afternoon.
She continues to make great strides.
they did not premedicate her today so it hurt when they bent her leg all the way back. She is going to have to ask for pain meds prior to therapy.
what a trooper! she walked all the way back to her room, they walked behind her with a wheel chair in case she needed to rest she did not. She said that she would probably walk to dinner. I am really proud of her. she is doing so well!
bizi

They probably didn't medicate her because they wanted her to figure
out she still does have some pain.

Its probably because she has meds that she hasn't been feeling
the pain.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

no I think that she did not know that she needed to request the pain med before therapy and that she really felt it when they bended her leg back that she touched her butt with her heel. then she felt severe pain.
She is going to request pain meds prior to therapy tomorrow. she is doing so well. am very proud of her.
bizi

this is all very strange to me...
 

when my friend did his knee surgery & rehab, neither pain meds alone nor anti-inflammatory meds were allowed before therapy. he asked to have them but was told NO, and was told WHY NOT:

1. the levels of pain / inflammation were used as therapeutic guides as to what the body could reasonably deal with at that time. movements were done gradually so as to be able to STOP in case anything began to cause excessive pain (see 2.)

2. In case of an increase in pain movements were NOT pushed to severe/intolerable pain requiring medication. The therapy was personalized and graduated to suit the needs and tolerance of the pt in that regard. (MarySue would NOT have been made to touch her butt with her heel if that caused her pain that would require meds! :()

Now, i cannot remember what kind of surgery my friend had i just know he messed up his knee bad and surgery was not "optional" - his knee was totally KO after the fall but i don't know if he had full a replacement. So maybe for replacements rehab is different. I just can't help thinking though, that artificial parts per se do not hurt. It is still our own tendons that hurt, where they new stuff is attached! So i don't understand why the philosophy applied in my friend's case wouldn't apply just the same. :o

I have a concern that if they medicate MarySue there is a risk of doing damage because they won't even have the pain as a warning sign! :( this is all very confusing to me. i really hope MarySue will be ok. it sounds very scary. It sounds like the docs in one part of the country do things opposite of how they do things another part of the country. :o

:confused: ~ waves ~ :confused:

Waves

I can't answer that question. My mother had to have pain meds pretty
much around the clock in the rehab place when she had her knee replacement
surgeries.


The first being lots worse than the second. She went at a lot slower pace
than MarySue is going. But with my mom she had to take pain meds at
home pretty much every 4 to 6 hours too.

They did have to stop many times with therapy, because of the level of her pain.:grouphug:

Donna

Thank you for your concern waves. She is doing very well. says she is in no pain at rest and her knee is just stiff when she gets up.it is so important for her to keep doing therapy the leg can easily freeze up on her and not be able to bend it back. I hope she is ok today will call later.
bizi

Waves,

My father was medicated with perhaps morphine and oxy the first three or four days after his hip replacement even though they had him walking and moving a little with the guidance of a physical therapist.
After he left the hospital and moved to rehab they dropped the morphine but kept the oxy. They increased the physical and occupational therapy at rehab.
Yeah, knees are not the same as hips.

I think that medication and therapy depends on the age and physical conditioning of the patient. Other variables as well.

M