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windseeker242 09-07-2012 11:52 AM

Mushrooms!
 
http://www.mushroomnutrition.com/hericium-erinaceus

todayistomorrow 09-07-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by windseeker242 (Post 912564)

are these hallucinagenitc mushrooms? Where would you find these?

Damodar 09-07-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by todayistomorrow (Post 912608)
are these hallucinagenitc mushrooms? Where would you find these?

I was taking it for another conditions, actually not remember why, at iherb you can get it for good price..

Mark in Idaho 09-07-2012 03:04 PM

The Lion's Mane mushroom has an extract that is the active ingredient.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12675022

pcslife 09-07-2012 03:42 PM

I posted this before. Hope this drug comes out soon.

Magic Mushrooms Expand the Mind By Dampening Brain Activity:

new brain-scan study helps explain how psilocybin (active ingredient in magic mushroom) works — and why it holds promise as a treatment for depression, addiction and post-traumatic stress.


What caught my attention is :

In order to keep us focused on survival, Huxley claimed, the brain must act as a “reducing valve” on the flood of potentially overwhelming sights, sounds and sensations. What remains, Huxley wrote, is a “measly trickle of the kind of consciousness” necessary to “help us to stay alive.” If this drug comes out I believe it can help PCS folks in many ways.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/2...rain-activity/

With Meditation you can achieve that state but with concussed/injured brain it can be very difficult :)

Cheers!

windseeker242 09-07-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by todayistomorrow (Post 912608)
are these hallucinagenitc mushrooms? Where would you find these?

These are not hallucinogenic mushrooms.

When scratching to find something to compare PCS to, so I can explain to "normals" what it is like, the closest thing I can use as an analogy is a bad trip on mushrooms. It's almost exactly like pcs. (well for me anyways) ((this can easily spark a debate on the subjective nature of reality))

So that being said I wouldn't dream of taking or recommending "magic mushrooms"

JoeT 09-13-2012 11:10 AM

Wow!!!
 
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Originally Posted by windseeker242 (Post 912691)
These are not hallucinogenic mushrooms.

When scratching to find something to compare PCS to, so I can explain to "normals" what it is like, the closest thing I can use as an analogy is a bad trip on mushrooms. It's almost exactly like pcs. (well for me anyways) ((this can easily spark a debate on the subjective nature of reality))

So that being said I wouldn't dream of taking or recommending "magic mushrooms"

That is exactly what I have always told people also. Except with insane pain in my head along with it. You are the first person that I have ever heard think the same thing. I know it sounds stupid but what a huge relief just to know.

Theta Z 10-07-2012 12:13 AM

Reading up on last month's posts ... meditation mentioned here.
 
Thanks, pcslife, for your post here.
It was synchronous reading for me on three counts. :winky:

One, an older woman friend recently was trying to tell me that we need to eat more mushrooms in our diet, be sure to buy them on sale in the grocery store.

I've lived in Asia, have experience with the merits of traditional Chinese medicine, Chinese herbal medicines, etc., thus I tried to explain to my elder friend that I thinkwhatever she'd read must've indicated a particular traditional medicinal mushroom, not ordinary white button mushrooms in the grocery. :o

Two, another atbi'd woman friend who's really an avid researcher was saying 2 years ago, "Mushrooms! Seriously! The new research for our brains, says they can be magic medicine for our ailing brain!" I thought she was joking. I said, "No thanks to that magic, uh-uh, not for me! I feel so 'altered' already as it is -- I don't think I'd survive anything so seriously mind-altering!!" :eek: Now here in these posts, I'm reading about that of which she spoke. Thank you.

Third, I'd missed in reading this your earlier post from September, re: the potential merit of meditation to cultivate a similar effect, i.e. by a sort of "dampening of brain activity", e.g. slowing our rapid-firing mind, onslaughted with "the flood of potentially overwhelming sights, sounds and sensations" [Huxley], to basically alleviate suffering.

Wow. Can't thank you enough for this post. As I say, it's highly synchronous for me at this time. Another confirmation that I'm onto a best hope for me, i.e. intensive vipassana meditation training,*free* to anyone . And vipassana meditation is the basis for U.Mass.School of Medicine Mindfulness Based Stress Reductionprogram (MBSR), which is currently being taught in some Veterans Admin Med Centers' trauma/PTSD/MTBI depts. :winky: Yay for that!
And yay again for reposting this pcslife. Gives me hope. ;)

Theta

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Originally Posted by pcslife (Post 912632)
I posted this before. Hope this drug comes out soon.

Magic Mushrooms Expand the Mind By Dampening Brain Activity:

new brain-scan study helps explain how psilocybin (active ingredient in magic mushroom) works — and why it holds promise as a treatment for depression, addiction and post-traumatic stress.


What caught my attention is :

In order to keep us focused on survival, Huxley claimed, the brain must act as a “reducing valve” on the flood of potentially overwhelming sights, sounds and sensations. What remains, Huxley wrote, is a “measly trickle of the kind of consciousness” necessary to “help us to stay alive.” If this drug comes out I believe it can help PCS folks in many ways.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/2...rain-activity/

With Meditation you can achieve that state but with concussed/injured brain it can be very difficult." :)

Cheers!


sospan 10-07-2012 04:12 AM

Where I live here in Wales "magic mushrooms" are easily collectable as they grow wild. They were shown in the film "Twin Town" where some local mischief makers (being polite) sold them on top of hot dogs :D

Indeed they are quite a favorite by the "new age" groups that live locally seeing the effect on them - I think I will pass on this one :)

andromeda 10-07-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sospan (Post 920517)
Where I live here in Wales "magic mushrooms" are easily collectable as they grow wild. They were shown in the film "Twin Town" where some local mischief makers (being polite) sold them on top of hot dogs :D

Indeed they are quite a favorite by the "new age" groups that live locally seeing the effect on them - I think I will pass on this one :)

Last time I was in Wales I was sitting in a graveyard watching 2 shady looking teenagers gathering mushrooms with little wicker baskets. The grounds keeper promptly phoned the police and off they fled.

sospan 10-07-2012 06:40 AM

Wasn't me honest

pcslife 10-07-2012 09:29 AM

Theta Z,

I think you are doing the right thing. You will certainly have benefit probably not Enlightenment. :) But considering all the meds we are swallowing and most of the time it makes things worse than better until we find something if we are lucky.

This new drug may take years to come out in the market. Magic mushroom is not easy to obtain in U.S. Also I never did any drugs in my life so not sure I want to go that path. Then again I take Xanax (min. dosage) which is kinda drug but sure relieves symptoms. Even alcohol is a drug (and in fact worse and is legal!!!).

Since Xanax helps, this is the reason I believe we should be able to train our mind to keep it quiet and ignore all the external stimulations, anger, useless thoughts (90 % of our thoughts are not productive) etc.,

This is where insight meditation can help hopefully. Still I always mention be cautiously optimistic about anything :)

Cheers!


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