AVG/Trojan Horse
 

My Norton subscription finally ran out and I got the free AVG for awhile as I'm moving and poor for a few weeks. No Firewall on the free version???!!!! :eek:

I've only had it 2 days and have removed Trojan Horses 2x. Is that because I have no firewall? Can I prevent that if I just use the Safe Search and not IE? I've been piggy backing a little on my neighbors wireless, I couldn't get it from them could I ?

thanks,
judi

Windows does have a firewall, maybe it is disabled?

But, a good free internet suite is Comodo Internet Security -
here's a page of their free software -
http://www.comodo.com/home/free/free...key1sk2=Google

oh they have a new browser listed too-
I'm going to try it out.
Comodo IceDragon Browser

[Which should I choose: Comodo Dragon or Comodo IceDragon?
The choice is yours! Both versions of Dragon feature security and privacy improvements over the originals and both feature additional Comodo tools and services. Our goal is to offer a secure, feature-enhanced alternative to both Chromium and Firefox user-bases while retaining the benefits and user experience of the original browsers. If you prefer FireFox, try IceDragon. If Chrome is the browser for you, then why not give Dragon a whirl?]

Wow the Comodo IceDragon Browser is fast , I may decide to use it more than my regular Firefox.
Supposed to be more secure also.

Hi zygopetalum and Jo*Mar
 

Well I got a heck of a post from my son yesterday. There is a huge trojon horse out there that is effecting 43% of computers in this country. It was even on the national news last night. Firewall does no good. My son wound up sending virus back to the sender, or he hacked the hackers. The Government is getting into the trouble, because it is effecting their computers as well. My son said to tell NT, that when I got this virus, I didn't do anything wrong, or go to or open anything unusual. I have Norton too and it didn't stop this from happening. Right now this viruse thinks it has reached me, it has been misinformed, so it leaves me alone. Over the course of the next few weeks, there are directions out, to get rid of it completely. If this happens to you, a screen will come up and say "silver alert" AVG is also disabled when this happens. You can't actully do anything at all besides a hard shut down. I have the information on the virus from my son, but don't know how to send it on to this site for you all to read. I don't like these dirty tricks people do. Actully thousands are hired to do exactly that. Just be careful. ginnie

I turned Windows firewall back on when I uninstalled Norton.

I was told I was less likely to get stuff using dial up as it is too slow to interest hackers so I think I will run another scan and stay off neighbors wireless and see what happens. Don't know if it will work, I used to get a lot of 'blocked intrusion' alerts from Norton and wondering if thats what it was.

I will try Komodo after I am moved and settled unless I keep having problems every day. My computer is faster since I got rid of Norton but don't know if that is the reason or if I have had the Trojan Horse for awhile and didnt know it.

Thanks for the heads up ginnie, I think I heard of that but assumed I was safe with Norton. I'd like to see the information if you can get it on, I tried to google 'silver alert' and all that came up was info about wandering Alzheimers patients.

Thanks,
judi

Hi Judi
 

If you PM me your private e-mail, I can send you the write up that my son sent me. Be glad to. ginnie

Ginnie,
If you know the name of that Trojan virus go ahead and post it, I can look up info on it.
It would be good to let all the members know about it so they can prepare and head off troubles.


The McAfee site doesn't list any major threat happening -
http://home.mcafee.com/virusinfo/ThreatActivity.aspx

please translate
 

I apparently am too old to learn to speak computer..:Bang-Head: This is what I have,

Trojan Horse Heur3 BWSF

I found some things online that implied AVG couldn't remove this but scan result says:

" One potentially dangerous threat. All were removed."

If I click on 'one dangerous threat' it says "Result Secured".

Is secured the same as removed? Is it gone? It comes up every time and doesn't tell me if it is a current threat or one already resolved.

Sorry if these are stupid questions, I've been moving all day and I'm tired. However in all honesty I probably couldn't understand what they were talking about anyway. :D

Thanks
judi

Hi Judi
 

Yes, I imagin this is the same one my son helped me with. This is what he wrote to me. I don't know PC lingo either, and was definately invaded. If you need help with the interpretation of this, I am told DocJohn is real good on the PC. Yes i did tell chemar and Jo*Mar. Here is what my son wrote "microsoft has confirmed that a bug in the internet Explorer leaves users vuneralble to attackers, and is recommending several temporary fixes. Here's the best one, and one Microsoft declines to suggest. DROP IE and use a different browser altogether.
On Monday, Microsoft issues a security advisory for IE users running all versions from IE6 to IE9, warning of a security but that can allow the takeover of the PC of any user tricked into visiting a website rigged to exploit the flaw. The hack, which was first spotted late last week by security researcher Eric Romang, is already being used to install the poison Ivy Trogan, by some of the same cybercriminal operations that earlier exploited a security flaw in Java, and security firm Rapid 7 estimates that the bug affects 41% of users in North America and 32% world wide.

So this weekend I am getting rid of Internet Explorer, and my son is going to install something else. This happened to me, and I was stuck with a screen that would not get off no matter what I did. I had to do a hard shut down. This was the same one that attempted to do this a month ago, but the information was not released publically until last night on national news.
Wish you all the best. ginnie

the best Internet security I have ever had is the one I use now, free from Microsoft
Microsoft Security Essentials
It only works on PC/Windows
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ity-essentials

I have this Internet security program now, too. They installed it when I took my laptop in for service due to a virus! :rolleyes: I was told it was the best product. And there's no renewing every year......it's a permanent program on my computer now.

I very rarely use IE, but for those that do - here is the "fix it section" from Microsoft.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2757760#FixItForMe

MIcrosoft Security Advisory
Notes:
" For computers that are running 64 bit operating systems the following Fix It
solution only applies to 34 bit version of IE."

Does that mean I can't use it because I have 64 bit OS?

Microsoft Security Essentials is not only for business?

Acer Palmatum Atropurpureum Dissectum...I just wanted everyone to know I understand that. :D

judi

replied to quote in red

Yes that poison ivy trojan is a bleepity bleep bleep to get rid of :D I have also changed my recommended list of "must have" anti virus, malware, spyware software (in case anyone was wondering).

I really like Avast's boot scan, it's very good at catching the slippery baddies that don't get scanned after the boot sequence has started.

AVG is still a good free anti virus, I just don't think it's as good as Avast.

Avast (free edition) anti virus = http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download

Malwarebytes (free edition) anit malware tool = http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free/

CCCleaner (free edition) = http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download

SpyBot Search & Destroy (free) = http://www.safer-networking.org/mirrors/

Registry Mechanic ($30 a year or if you're not squemish about cracked software free :D ) = http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/

Hi all
 

Getting microsoft security system essentials tonight! Yeh, thank you. ginnie

where did I get them?
 

I finally got malwarebytes installed ( with a moderate amount of trauma) and run and it looked to me like there were 6 different Trojans with 3 of them on there twice? Is that possible? Where did I get the stupid things? The only downloads I do are boring medical research papers and a few horse things. Am I getting them on the stupid attachments my sis sends me? Some of them are downloads. Anyone have an idea?

Thanks Zombieslayer for the malwarebyte, I had heard of it but was too chicken to do it until forced. :D Computer sure got faster...I am so pathetic.

judi

Hi Judi
 

Sorry for the PC trouble you are having. I did too, and my son had to get me out of trouble by installing other programs, and spending some stressful time to get rid of the bugs. It happened twice to me. I only go to Neuro Talk, a few medical web sites. My son found out that 31% of computers are receiving these bugs in the USA alone. It is world wide, and nothing you did wrong. These people who do this are professionals and are being paid to cause trouble by using back doors to the computers. That is in laymens terms since I don't know that much myself. He found alot of information about it, Mine was called silver alert, and there were pages of commands, to get rid of it after he researched it to find out where it came from, and the solution. Hope it doesn't happen to either of us again. ginnie

hi ginnie
 

I wish I had a computer savy son, I have some nephews but none live close enough. I ran another AVG scan after I posted last night and the original Trojan I posted about was still there. :mad:. So it looks like Malwarebytes got some AVG didnt see but not that one. I only did the recommended quick scan with it so will try full system one. AVG says it removes it but it seems like it comes back everytime I have logged off and then get back online.

Rats,
jusi

Sometimes they get into the registry files and get started up every time the computer starts.

I had a bad one years ago when I was using free virus software, that I had to learn how to go into those files to fully delete the baddie.
It was so long ago I don't recall how to do it again..
After 2 complete system crashes I decided it was worth paying for a good internet security suite.:(

Hopefully the deep scan will get it -
but you can also download & run SUPERAntiSpyware- sometimes one will get what the other misses.
http://www.superantispyware.com/

And
Did you try the
CCCleaner (free edition) = http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download

I use it also - just leave all the settings as they come, don't change anything, and you won't have to worry about the wrong thing being cleaned or removed.

Hi Judi
 

My son sent me an update today. 17 people were arrested, may be involved in this whole bug issue. I guess it was on the internet. Yes, I am grateful to have my son be able to help. I never would have been able to keep a PC without him. I never had a PC even in college, so I was late is learning anything. NT, got me more involved, thats for sure. Still don't cut and paste, and my son would rather do the stuff himself than teach me! I think I just lack patience. Have a good day Judi, and I hope that your PC trouble can be fixed. ginnie

Found it?
 

When in doubt read the instructions... I ran another AVG scan, trojan is still there. I expanded details and it said it was on a RealPlayer update? It said:

"Trojanhorse SHeur3 BWSF
C/program files (x860) Real/RealPlayer/Update/resched.exe (3788)".

I think I did that, I remember downloading something I thought was Adobe update :Oops:. Can I get rid of it if I uninstall RealPlayer? I can't really watch videos anyway with dial up but I could reinstall it if needed? Im not sure I could figure out how to get rid of only the update even if it were possible.

Also malwarbytes found over 200 baddies on 'MyWebSearch' (mostly)..are those just tracking cookies? Should I just get rid of them all even if I cant figure out what they are? I hate MYWebSearch, do I want it?

This is very annoying. Can I infect anyone if I email, etc.?

Ginnie, pcs weren't even invented when I was in college. :)

thanks for any help,
judi

Hey, the 'mywebsearch' is spyware, not a virus, not infectious, just really damn annoying. Some programs are good at removing it, but most dont remove it completely. Breaking into the registry and manually removing is the best way, but thats a difficult an and risky process. It basically just hijacks your browser and redirects you to a plethora of sites that you probably dont care too much for....

Odds are you probably wont affect anyone via email, as its mainly a browser thing that it attaches to.

CCleaner should take care of it.....

Hi Judy
 

If you have real problems, and cannot find a solution, PM me with your e-mail, I can send your questions to my son. I know he would help. Ginnie

If she is brave enough to use her email :)

I think we should all pool together and get Judi a Mac...no more viruses or crappy MS products....

A Linux install would be a lot cheaper than a Mac..:)
free in fact...
open source - can be downloaded burned to a DVD and a live DVD created so you can try it from DVD drive before installing. Burn it at a slow setting or it may have errors.

I completely ditched windows on an older laptop and Linux Lubuntu is on it now.
Less bloat and rarely any issues with viruses.

my favs -
Ubuntu, KDE, Mepis, PCLinuxOS, Lubuntu, Puppy


http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major

Some can be found in Linux magazines, as well as some live cd's in some Linux library books.

something to think about for an older slow windows computer, unless you have a lot of purchased software that requires windows operating system.

But it would be hard to talk someone thru setting Linux up if they ran into problems long distance.. Some "distros" will find the wireless signal right away , but some need a bit of tweaking..
I would suggest trying some of the live cd/DVD versions before thinking of installing any ...to see if you like it and that is connects easily to go online.
I had a spare computer to look up things online when I had questions about something,

But that is a whole other topic...:o

Maybe...
 

I read that it was hard to uninstall RealPlayer, they called it 'Badware', but I may have succeeded. Computer told me I had to reboot to get rid of the 'Real/RealPlayer..' bad part so hope it worked. If it uninstalled is it not active or does it come back to life like Dracula if you don't put a stake through his heart? AVG thinks its gone.

I guess there are bits of RealPlayer in many places on computer but things seem ok so will hope, there are directions online how to get rid of those but it looks fairly scarey.

I also got rid of my 200+ bits of crud, I suppose I will get 200 more in .5 seconds online. :p

Icehouse , my sister offered to give me her year old Mac but she invested all her retirement money in a pickle factory so I don't think she can afford to do that any more. :laugh: Besides, do you really want me to have to learn a whole new way of doing things? :eek:

Ditto Ubuntu, :eek::eek::eek

Ginnie, it is possible I am untrainable.

If anyone knows if the Trojan is really still there and Im deluding myself please let me know.

judi

For the record, I have installed Ubuntu numerous times also and I love it. It runs off a CD or a USB stick or you can install it in minutes! Plus, it installs most needed drivers and it really is "plug and play"....

Its great for someone who just wants email and internet....

I thought it looked interesting but as of June this year Ubuntu won't work with dial up anymore. Onward....

judi