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Brokenfriend 12-14-2012 04:46 PM

BF has a broken heart.
 
I feel sad,and have a broken heart for the 20 kids who where killed in Connecticut.

:(BF:(:(:(:hug::hug::hug:

Brokenfriend 12-14-2012 04:49 PM

I also feel sorry for the other people too. BF:(:hug::hug::hug:

waves 12-14-2012 05:50 PM

(((((Steve))))) i'm sorry. you can pray. pray for humanity.

:hug::hug::hug::hug: i am so sorry you are hurting. :heartthrob: i appreciated the trigger icon. its just that i figured "heartbreak" meant a girl...

ok, so, well.... here's the thing. i won't be participating in this thread, beyond this post. please forgive me. i don't know the whole Connecticut story and do not want to, but i thought i'd at least explain why.

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thing with me is i am already in too deep - i can't avoid the news my parents put it on and i get multiple daily overdoses of reports on yes, kids getting killed, and some by bombs, other horrific stories of violent crimes in the streets, in families, abundance of local natural disasters here this year have reaped deaths and homeless. i don't talk about it because i cannot deal. then there's the scary political/economical crap going on here that hits all the stranded people, and me directly. i am going to stop now. sorry. i feel nauseated and upturned in the soul. any and all of it all makes my skin crawl and it is not like i can divine what preschool is gonna be bombed next or by whom or who's gonna go off the deep end with a gun, nor the gangs that "mess up" 11 year old girls before beating them dead.
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i wish these crimes would not get so much press. i don't see how it helps. in fact i think it can incite violence in others who may have that tendency. that makes me doubly sick. a lot of violent crimes are about getting attention. and the media steps right up to the plate. ugh.

i understand it hurts Steve. I hope you can say a prayer and think of something else soon. You hurt because you have a heart of gold. :circlelove:

Mari 12-14-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 939574)
I feel sad,and have a broken heart for the 20 kids who where killed in Connecticut.

:(BF:(:(:(:hug::hug::hug:

Steve,

I send prayers and good thoughts to you Steve.
I am like Waves I think in that I limit thinking about these kinds of dreadful acts. I like to be informed but I otherwise distance myself from feeling too much about them.
I need to save myself. Today was very hard. I am going to be ok ( after lots if extra Klonopin thank goodness).

Lots of hugs to the room.:grouphug:

M

butterfly11 12-14-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 939574)
I feel sad,and have a broken heart for the 20 kids who where killed in Connecticut.

:(BF:(:(:(:hug::hug::hug:

me too, Steve. It is unfathomable. So unfathomable. I just can't wrap my mind around the evil that's in the world. I am praying for their families. And like waves said, let's pray for humanity. This world needs divine help & mercy. :Heart:

butterfly11 12-14-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 939585)
Steve,

Today was very hard.
M

Glad you made it through today Mari. I hope tomorrow is better! :Heart:

Dmom3005 12-14-2012 06:49 PM

I agree with everyone. And send prayers to all that need them.

donna:grouphug:

butterfly11 12-15-2012 10:46 AM

I just read this article and thought it sheds some light. It is written by a psychiatrist explaining Who Would Kill Children?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...kill-children/

:Heart:

butterfly11 12-15-2012 12:14 PM

I'm not saying poor thing about the shooter, but it sounds like he's had issues since he was little. I hope his parents tried to get him treatment. :Heart:---------------------------

"Adam Lanza has been a weird kid since we were five years old," wrote a neighbor and former classmate Timothy Dalton on Twitter. "As horrible as this was, I can't say I am surprised."

In school, Lanza carried a black briefcase and spoke little. Every day, he wore a sort of uniform: khakis and a shirt buttoned up to the neck, with pens lined up in his shirt pocket.

He hated being called on by teachers, and it seemed to require a physical effort for him to respond. He avoided public attention and had few, if any, friends. He liked to sit near the door of the classroom to make a quick exit.

He even managed to avoid having his picture in his high school yearbook. Instead of his portrait, the space reserved for Adam Lanza says "Camera Shy." And unlike most in his age group, he seems to have left little imprint on the internet – no Facebook page, no Twitter account."

The whole article is here http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connec...2#.UMyucnfNlS0

Alffe 12-15-2012 12:30 PM

Autism


URL of this page: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/autism.html
Also called: Autistic spectrum disorder (ASD),

Autism is a disorder that is usually first diagnosed in early childhood. The main signs and symptoms of autism involve communication, social interactions and repetitive behaviors.
Children with autism might have problems talking with you, or they might not look you in the eye when you talk to them. They may have to line up their pencils before they can pay attention, or they may say the same sentence again and again to calm themselves down. They may flap their arms to tell you they are happy, or they might hurt themselves to tell you they are not. Some people with autism never learn how to talk.
Because people with autism can have very different features or symptoms, health care providers think of autism as a "spectrum" disorder. Asperger syndrome is a milder version of the disorder.
The cause of autism is not known. Autism lasts throughout a person's lifetime. There is no cure, but treatment can help. Treatments include behavior and communication therapies and medicines to control symptoms.
NIH: National Institute of Child Health and Human Development

Mari 12-15-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by butterfly11 (Post 939728)
He hated being called on by teachers, and it seemed to require a physical effort for him to respond. He avoided public attention and had few, if any, friends. He liked to sit near the door of the classroom to make a quick exit.

He even managed to avoid having his picture in his high school yearbook. Instead of his portrait, the space reserved for Adam Lanza says "Camera Shy." And unlike most in his age group, he seems to have left little imprint on the internet – no Facebook page, no Twitter account."

The whole article is here http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connec...2#.UMyucnfNlS0


Hi, Butterfly,

We will get more information eventually.
The Autism and Personality Disorder information came from someone in the police department leaking information from the shooter's brother in Hobeken, NJ.

Mari

Dmom3005 12-15-2012 08:18 PM

Even if he had autistic traits this doesn't mean he had autism.

Just as if he has things that can be related to depression and
anxiety.

It doesn't have to be bi-polar.


Donna:hug::grouphug:

DiMarie 12-16-2012 09:58 AM

Steve the one thing that helped me was to focus on the heros and those that ran into the danger. The teachers that protected their kids, the emergency personnel, everyone in the town that gathered together to support.

Even those around the world that offer prayers. But, the first ones to have contact with this sad soul, the first responders, the littlest heros are the children that will go on. Rejoice in their lives, and feel honored in the way they are cooping, healing each other.

My heart does ache for the families, especially at this time of year, but the community of heros is immeasurable.
hugs
di

Dmom3005 12-16-2012 10:50 AM

Yes you are so right Di-Marie,
I hadn't thought of it that way myself till I read a post on my facebook that
my nephew had written about the parent, that lost his child that is praying for the family of the gunman. And the teacher who was there for the children. The children who did all the hiding.

It brought home, that we are raising our kids to do the right thing. And that if we can keep working to make them the strongest, this is the right thing.

Donna:hug::grouphug:

Mari 12-16-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiMarie (Post 939893)
Steve the one thing that helped me was to focus on the heros and those that ran into the danger. The teachers that protected their kids, the emergency personnel, everyone in the town that gathered together to support.

Even those around the world that offer prayers. But, the first ones to have contact with this sad soul, the first responders, the littlest heros are the children that will go on. Rejoice in their lives, and feel honored in the way they are cooping, healing each other.

My heart does ache for the families, especially at this time of year, but the community of heros is immeasurable.
hugs
di

Dear Di,

Thanks for that.

It is true that the people in the town are expressing a great deal of love and compassion for each other.

M

BlueMajo 12-16-2012 02:45 PM

I have been thinking a lot about this case....

I was very impressed, I mean, shocked.... I feel so sorry for the families of all the effected ones and, can imagine how they feel.... or probably I cant...

I feel so sorry because they were kiddies... not that older people "deserve" to be killed that way, but kiddies ? I dont get it, I cant imagine it or understand it.... However, working with a type of cancer that affect children, I have been reading a lot about why children die and stuff, and I want to believe the theory about the young people die at the right time, they were so pure, wise, perfect ! that their mission was accomplished really early in life... that explains many things to me... like when some babies just live a couple of months but their parents learn a lot in those 2 months...
So, Im trying to see this shocking event as that... like, literally 20 little angels had already accomplish their mission here.... :hug: :Heart: :smileypray:

Now, on the other hand, I have been thinking A LOT about this Adam guy... because recently I was called a "serial killer", I can only think, how can somebody kill someone ? why ? and I cant find answers but, I can imagine the hell he must had lived or was living to do what he did.... I have to say, I feel indeed sorry for the murdered... I never thought I would feel sorry for a killer, but it is true.... I feel sad because probably nobody noticed about his mental and emotional issues... or at least, nobody cared.... :( Poor guy.

I have no clue what mental issue he could have had... I dont have enough info on that matter, like, having autism would explain this ? dont think so but dont know.... even being schizo would explain it ? dont think so again but again, I dont know....

My prayers go to all those feeling this... you included dear Steve... Im aching too :hug:

Dmom3005 12-16-2012 05:31 PM

Mayo, and everyone still reading this

Autism, or any other disorder would not alone be a reason for doing this.

It would be a group of things to cause this thing. And it would have to
be in his head that something was wrong, and going on.

He had to have been having some very rough thoughts to really be having
so many bad thoughts.


I to a degree can say its something a mother can feel. I personally know
that at one point before we found the right medication for the then 16 year
old son. I would have told you I didn't know if at some point I would be
visiting my son in jail for killing someone, even a member of the family.

Only because in rage, he didn't have a clue what he was doing or saying at times. And the mental health officials in my area. Hadn't been able to help him. They didn't seem to know what was wrong with him.

So I can see were his mother and even father could have not known what was in his mind. And he could have killed his mother without her being able to stop her.

Donna:grouphug:

butterfly11 12-16-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMajo (Post 939954)
I never thought I would feel sorry for a killer, but it is true.... I feel sad because probably nobody noticed about his mental and emotional issues... or at least, nobody cared.... :( Poor guy.

me too, BlueMajo :Heart:

BlueMajo 12-16-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by butterfly11 (Post 940024)
me too, BlueMajo :Heart:

:)

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