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Katie O 05-15-2013 07:04 PM

I need some hope.
 
Hello, I am not sure where to start. I am in my third day of withdrawl from Lyrica. I couldn't think straight, have terrible shakes, I sweat and then am freezing, I have diarrhea that I can't seem to control, and terrible, terrible anxiety along with depression. I cry at everything. I found the support group and it has given me hope from your experiences. I have been on gabapentin for neuropathy for almost a year. The burning and pain just keeps getting worse. Gabapentin makes me so tired at first but I guess my body adjusts but then my feet get worse and my neurologist increases it again. So I heard from an aquaintance that Lyica is wonderful. LOL I was only on it for a short time when the anxiety and tremors started (I'm still on the gabapentin at the same time) This was over the weekend and my neurologist isn't in on Mondays,so I quit it cold turkey. By Monday I thought I was going to die. I called my family doctor who gave me a prescription for the anxiety. Today is Wednesday and my thinking is better and the anxiety is under control. So I know I just have to wait this out but I wonder for how long? I thought I had new hope for my neuropathy through Lyrica but now that is gone. I am so depressed. I am a 64 year old female and have so much I wanted to do in retirement but I feel as if I'll be in a wheelchair if the neuropathy progresses this rapidly with no hope. Thank you for listening. Katie O

Beachbum65 05-16-2013 01:35 AM

Ok Katie there is hope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie O (Post 983851)
Hello, I am not sure where to start. I am in my third day of withdrawl from Lyrica. I couldn't think straight, have terrible shakes, I sweat and then am freezing, I have diarrhea that I can't seem to control, and terrible, terrible anxiety along with depression. I cry at everything. I found the support group and it has given me hope from your experiences. I have been on gabapentin for neuropathy for almost a year. The burning and pain just keeps getting worse. Gabapentin makes me so tired at first but I guess my body adjusts but then my feet get worse and my neurologist increases it again. So I heard from an aquaintance that Lyica is wonderful. LOL I was only on it for a short time when the anxiety and tremors started (I'm still on the gabapentin at the same time) This was over the weekend and my neurologist isn't in on Mondays,so I quit it cold turkey. By Monday I thought I was going to die. I called my family doctor who gave me a prescription for the anxiety. Today is Wednesday and my thinking is better and the anxiety is under control. So I know I just have to wait this out but I wonder for how long? I thought I had new hope for my neuropathy through Lyrica but now that is gone. I am so depressed. I am a 64 year old female and have so much I wanted to do in retirement but I feel as if I'll be in a wheelchair if the neuropathy progresses this rapidly with no hope. Thank you for listening. Katie O

The first thing you need to do is arm yourself with knowledge as you will find here as no other Dr. Office will tell you from my experience. Keep trying as you are your best advocate . Read a lot about your neuropathy there is a wealth of people and information here. I totally understand how you feel now, Lyrica never worked for me but everybody is different. Personally , I have sensory neuropathy for about 5 years now and I feel pain control and diet is the key for me. Low carb low fat gluten free is hard to do but I try. I never heard of neuropathy a few years ago and now it is my life , there are something's you can do to make your life better before resulting to the so called " Chair " . Get your blood drawn and get tested from A to Z. Try to find out if it is a vitamin or a mineral, heavy metals or toxins can play a major role in this. As for me nobody knows ,but my nerves are turning back on only after a few months of supplements and change of diet. It will take time and Never give up , God bless you ! Peace !

Katie O 05-16-2013 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beachbum65 (Post 983946)
The first thing you need to do is arm yourself with knowledge as you will find here as no other Dr. Office will tell you from my experience. Keep trying as you are your best advocate . Read a lot about your neuropathy there is a wealth of people and information here. I totally understand how you feel now, Lyrica never worked for me but everybody is different. Personally , I have sensory neuropathy for about 5 years now and I feel pain control and diet is the key for me. Low carb low fat gluten free is hard to do but I try. I never heard of neuropathy a few years ago and now it is my life , there are something's you can do to make your life better before resulting to the so called " Chair " . Get your blood drawn and get tested from A to Z. Try to find out if it is a vitamin or a mineral, heavy metals or toxins can play a major role in this. As for me nobody knows ,but my nerves are turning back on only after a few months of supplements and change of diet. It will take time and Never give up , God bless you ! Peace !

Thank you so much. I will take your advice and it does give me hope. Katie O

FiestLady24 05-16-2013 12:33 PM

Hi Katie, I feel for your pain. I am going through the same thing. Im very frustated with the Doctors too. I also go through spurts of crying spells and sadness. I get very down and discouraged when I see other women my age living an acvtive lifestyle because it just reminds me that my body has betrayed me. People say get pro-active. Its hard when your in pain all the time. It makes you very low energy. I try to put a smile on my face day for my family. But I have days inside that I just want to drop to my knees. I wish I had more people to talk to in the flesh. I love being around people. I want to see other people just like me, maybe it would be more hopeful. Hang in there Katie.

Katie O 06-01-2013 01:06 PM

I am so discouraged
 
I'm not sure if this will add onto my previous thread. I just can't seem to get the hang of using Neurotalk. I respond to someone and then can't find it the next day. Maybe its the 1200 mg of Neurotin that keeps my mind so clouded. I'm finally over the withdrawl from Lyrica. Thought I was dying because I quit it cold turkey. I started taking something called Fast Start nerve health support made by Plexus. It is so expensive but I am so desperate to get some relief from the burning, pain and stiffness in my feet and legs. At first I thought it was helping but now i'm not so sure but I'm afraid to stop it. I've been up the past few nights with so much pain. Everytime I call my doctor she just increases the Neurotin 300 more mg which seems to help for about 5 or 6 weeks and then it's like the Neuropathy is trying to get ahead of the medicine and the pain is back again. I know you can take 3000+mg of Neurotin but I feel like a zombie now and can't imagine 3000mg effects on me. Where is the quality of life when you have to deal with this everyday? When in the past and times were tough I always thought of what my dear mother told me "This, too, shall pass." But this is never going to pass it is only going to get worse because there is no cure. I feel so guilty complaining like this when I know there are so many people out there suffering much worse than I am. I have benn reading about B12 and am going to try that route. There has to be something beside the pain pills to deal with this. Thanks for listening, it just helps to vent sometimes. Blessings, Katie O

ginnie 06-01-2013 01:31 PM

Hi Katie
 
You will catch on quickly to Neuro Talk. Most responses go right into your e-mail and you just click on the highlighted NT address. That will bring you to the conversation where people respond to you.
Please do not give up. You need some more help with pain, and your depression will lesson. Pain removes quality of life. Please seek another pain specialist, who can give a bit more help with the PN. Have you tried compounded agents? Or lidoderm patches?. Both these things work a bit for me to make it at least a bit more tolerable. I also do use a narcotic called narco, when I really have to. I do feel your sorrow over what has happened to you. Know there is more help available with the right team of doctors. It may take some effort to find someone more familiar with PN.
I do take some suppliments which seem to help over the last year. My doctor is a physiatrist, who does specialize in pain management. I was told not all physiatrists specialize in this field. You may want to ask over the phone if you should see a doctor like this. A physiatrist treats the whole person, right down to the depression.... Don't give up. fight for your quality of life. I couldn't walk last year very well and had to use a wheelchair. this year I am in the garden, on my butt, but still being active. I am 62 this year. I wish you all the best, and hope you get some more help. ginnie

Aussie99 06-01-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie O (Post 983851)
Hello, I am not sure where to start. I am in my third day of withdrawl from Lyrica. I couldn't think straight, have terrible shakes, I sweat and then am freezing, I have diarrhea that I can't seem to control, and terrible, terrible anxiety along with depression. I cry at everything. I found the support group and it has given me hope from your experiences. I have been on gabapentin for neuropathy for almost a year. The burning and pain just keeps getting worse. Gabapentin makes me so tired at first but I guess my body adjusts but then my feet get worse and my neurologist increases it again. So I heard from an aquaintance that Lyica is wonderful. LOL I was only on it for a short time when the anxiety and tremors started (I'm still on the gabapentin at the same time) This was over the weekend and my neurologist isn't in on Mondays,so I quit it cold turkey. By Monday I thought I was going to die. I called my family doctor who gave me a prescription for the anxiety. Today is Wednesday and my thinking is better and the anxiety is under control. So I know I just have to wait this out but I wonder for how long? I thought I had new hope for my neuropathy through Lyrica but now that is gone. I am so depressed. I am a 64 year old female and have so much I wanted to do in retirement but I feel as if I'll be in a wheelchair if the neuropathy progresses this rapidly with no hope. Thank you for listening. Katie O


Hi Kate,
Going cold turkey on drugs like Lyrica is very hard on the body. Cutting down slowly would have been the preferred way to discontinue the drug. Be careful with The anxiety drugs as they too can be habit forming.

I just wanted to let you know that I too had progressive PN that was very bad and extremely painful, and I never needed a wheelchair 8 years on. The thousands of posts i have read in 8 years on the forum hardly anyone needed a wheelchair. .Please try to get that thought out of your head. You will get better and you will enjoy your retirement and do all the things you want as soon as you get your pain under control. This is the key for you (pain management).

SeattleDDC 06-02-2013 01:08 AM

Not trying to hijack this thread, but I can't figure out how to start a new thread. But it seems like I'm in the same situation as the OP. 49 year old male diagnosed with Peripheral Neuropathy 1 1/2 years ago. Tons of tests with no cause found. I take Lyrica with no help. I took Gabapentin previously, but again, no help.
I went to a chiropractor last year when I was first diagnosed and he said he could cure it with lasers. That was pure snake oil. So bottom line, what do I do? I've been prescribed Cymbalta previously, but the insurance company doesn't want to give it to me. Should I be on opiates for pain? I'm afraid that will tear up my liver. Man, this is frustrating. Am I looking forward to the next 30-40 years of this? Basically, my life is work, then going home to ice my feet. I don't want to complain to my wife, because it won't do any good, and she wouldn't understand anyway. Any help is appreciated.

mrsD 06-02-2013 05:57 AM

To start a new thread, you go to the first page of any forum.
This PN forum the link is:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum20.html

OR if you look up to the top left of this page, where it says,
Neurotalk support groups... click on the >Peripheral Neuropathy
underlined term and it will take you to the first page also.

Most underlined things here are clickable.
If you click on NeuroTalk Support Groups...it will take you to the main index page for all forums. You can choose one you want to see and click it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleDDC (Post 988649)
Not trying to hijack this thread, but I can't figure out how to start a new thread. But it seems like I'm in the same situation as the OP. 49 year old male diagnosed with Peripheral Neuropathy 1 1/2 years ago. Tons of tests with no cause found. I take Lyrica with no help. I took Gabapentin previously, but again, no help.
I went to a chiropractor last year when I was first diagnosed and he said he could cure it with lasers. That was pure snake oil. So bottom line, what do I do? I've been prescribed Cymbalta previously, but the insurance company doesn't want to give it to me. Should I be on opiates for pain? I'm afraid that will tear up my liver. Man, this is frustrating. Am I looking forward to the next 30-40 years of this? Basically, my life is work, then going home to ice my feet. I don't want to complain to my wife, because it won't do any good, and she wouldn't understand anyway. Any help is appreciated.


ginnie 06-02-2013 09:20 AM

Hi Seattle DDC
 
Don't worry about posting anywhere you want to. The link MrsD gave you will get you to a start thread. So sorry you are enduring this PN pain. I have a very mild opiate I take when really bad. You may want to consider lidoderm pain patches, or a compounded agent that reduces your pain. You are very right the key to a better life is in good pain management. ginnie

tashabree 06-02-2013 05:54 PM

Dear fiestlady, I totally understand I find myself crying all the time and I also try to put on a happy face for my family. I know it is so hard. Its frustrating knowing you have so many goals and things you want to do and can't do them. I look at my legs and feet and I feel like they aren't my own. I try and remind myself sometimes that it will be ok to have faith in God and know he will not put more on us than we can bear. So, if that is the case we must be pretty strong, right? It is so comforting to know that someone else feels the way I do, and understands. Im only 29 and had just got a job offer as a nurse at the local hospital and had to turn it down because of my neuropathy it really upset me that I had worked so hard for something and now everything has changed and my body has failed me. Now I find myself confused and wondering where do I go from here.

tashabree 06-02-2013 06:02 PM

Hang in ther
 
Hi katie, Dont ever feel like your complaining or that your pain and what your going through isn't just as important as anyone elses. Everyone who is going through this understands and I promise you your not alone. I found that out today your story has helped me and I thank you for that. I also have been told this too shall pass but it doesn't feel like it and I know it wont I guess we just have to figure out how to live with it. I just don't know how to yet and like you said the medicine feels like it has stoped working and my doctor doesn't seem to want to give me pain management and I stay in tears I hurt so bad I don't know what to do either.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie O (Post 988482)
I'm not sure if this will add onto my previous thread. I just can't seem to get the hang of using Neurotalk. I respond to someone and then can't find it the next day. Maybe its the 1200 mg of Neurotin that keeps my mind so clouded. I'm finally over the withdrawl from Lyrica. Thought I was dying because I quit it cold turkey. I started taking something called Fast Start nerve health support made by Plexus. It is so expensive but I am so desperate to get some relief from the burning, pain and stiffness in my feet and legs. At first I thought it was helping but now i'm not so sure but I'm afraid to stop it. I've been up the past few nights with so much pain. Everytime I call my doctor she just increases the Neurotin 300 more mg which seems to help for about 5 or 6 weeks and then it's like the Neuropathy is trying to get ahead of the medicine and the pain is back again. I know you can take 3000+mg of Neurotin but I feel like a zombie now and can't imagine 3000mg effects on me. Where is the quality of life when you have to deal with this everyday? When in the past and times were tough I always thought of what my dear mother told me "This, too, shall pass." But this is never going to pass it is only going to get worse because there is no cure. I feel so guilty complaining like this when I know there are so many people out there suffering much worse than I am. I have benn reading about B12 and am going to try that route. There has to be something beside the pain pills to deal with this. Thanks for listening, it just helps to vent sometimes. Blessings, Katie O


ginnie 06-02-2013 06:53 PM

Hi tashabree
 
I do understand about getting sick young. I was 29 too, when I got an auto immune disease. I would have been a teacher. I am sorry that happened to you. I hope some window of opportunity happens for you, even if your body isn't behaving. Lets hope this PN gets some attention in the medical field, and can present some hope for all with PN, RSD, Fibro and the ones that are Neurological in nature. Seems like there are alot of us. Take care. ginnie

Katie O 06-05-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiestLady24 (Post 984058)
Hi Katie, I feel for your pain. I am going through the same thing. Im very frustated with the Doctors too. I also go through spurts of crying spells and sadness. I get very down and discouraged when I see other women my age living an acvtive lifestyle because it just reminds me that my body has betrayed me. People say get pro-active. Its hard when your in pain all the time. It makes you very low energy. I try to put a smile on my face day for my family. But I have days inside that I just want to drop to my knees. I wish I had more people to talk to in the flesh. I love being around people. I want to see other people just like me, maybe it would be more hopeful. Hang in there Katie.

Thank you for responding. It makes me feel as if I'm not alone and other people do understand. I am feeling somewhat better since the dr increased my Neurotin. The pain is more undercontrol but the medication just makes you (as one reader put it) "stupid." LOL And that really helped me explain how I feel on this drug. My head is in a fog and I do "stupid" things. But now I smile when I mess up and know I am not alone and just keep going. I hope you find relief for your pain. Blessings, Katie O

Katie O 06-17-2013 10:19 PM

Hello to all, here I am again. Couldn't sleep because of the pain and the burning because of the neuropathy. The burning is the worst. I stand in my barefeet on the ceramic tile floor and I get some relief but it is short-lived. I reread all of your replies because it really helps to know I'm not alone in this and someone cares. I've had some really good days lately but my dr wants me to increase the gabapentin to 1500 mg to keep ahead of the pain. I know I need to keep the pain under control but I make such stupid mistakes on the gabapentin (especially when I am very tired or stressed.) Nothing of serious consequences just dumb remarks etc. I ask my dr about alzheimers but she said confusion is a definate side effect of the drug. Soooo, one day at a time, I guess. My son went for acupuncture treatments for his back pain (when nothing else worked except strong pain meds) and is doing great. I wondered if anyone out there has tried acupuncture for neuropathy? By the way, the expensive pills I ordered,which I mentioned previously, didn't work for me either. I have found that by totally eliminating sugar from my diet has been a great help. Also,limiting my intake of processed carbs helps me. Getting tired, better try and get some sleep. Blessings, Katie O

mrsD 06-18-2013 07:52 AM

If your burning is confined to specific areas like the feet, do try
Biofreeze for it. I find this will stop burning for hours. It does wear off eventually, however. I only apply it on the tops of the feet and a little up the ankle.

You can find it now on Amazon for affordable prices (some retail outlets can charge double Amazon's price.)

http://www.amazon.com/BIOFREEZE-Pain...=biofreeze+gel

Sallysblooms 06-18-2013 12:20 PM

If you have an integrative MD, you can ask about the Far Infrared Hothouse Dome and fir pad. They are amazing!

Of course I take the supplements needed. Diet is key also.

ginnie 06-18-2013 01:59 PM

Hi katie
 
[I have biofreeze and also a compounded formula. Pain patches as well that have lidocane. B12 shots for the last year, seem to help with the pins and needles. cool water not cold helps too. I am sorry you have this condition. PN is awful. Hope you can get some more relief. I could not take that medicaiton as it made me not just loopy but super depressed. I am now trying some mushroom extract. There was an article in Discover magazine this month about this. PN and auto immune problems were addressed by the use of the ancient remedies. Maybe check out the ariticle. Have a good day Katie, hope you find some relief. ginnie


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