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GirlFromNorway 06-24-2013 08:50 AM

Anyone experienced MS after vaccination?
 
If so, please list the type of vaccination, how long it took from the time of the immunization to the occurrence of MS symptoms, and what your doctors have said about this (possible alternative medical explanations to the MS).

SallyC 06-24-2013 09:47 AM

Welcome GFNorway..

No vaccinations received here, in conjunction with MS DX.

Kitty 06-24-2013 09:54 AM

I had all the usual vaccinations as a child so who knows what that did to me.

I started having mild MS symptoms in my 20's. I'm 52 now and have full blown MS.

I hear so many different theories about vaccinations and how they affect you. I won't have anymore.....especially the flu or shingles vaccine......but I don't know for sure if the ones I did have had anything to do with me getting MS.

edit to add: I did have Mono when I was 19 and then chicken pox when I was 25. That was horrible.

Erin524 06-24-2013 12:41 PM

In 2006, I had a MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) vaccination about two weeks before I had my first big sensory symptom. My hip went numb. About five months later I developed optic neuritis.

Until I got optic neuritis, I had no idea that it was MS. I'd been told the numb hip was a sprain by a PA, who told me to put heat on it...and she basically yelled at me when I told her that heat made it worse. (accused me of faking it)

After I got ON, a neuro told me that the numb hip was Meralgia Paresthetica...and about 3 or 4 months after that I was diagnosed with MS.

GirlFromNorway 06-24-2013 03:14 PM

Erin54: I'm sorry to hear that. I developed transverse myelitis after MMR vaccination when I was 12. Not sure how similar transverse myelitis is to MS.

What did the doctors say about the vaccination? Do they think it could have caused your MS? Here is a court case about MS after MMR vaccination (the petitioner won) if you are interested: http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/...OE74071310.pdf


Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin524 (Post 994890)
In 2006, I had a MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) vaccination about two weeks before I had my first big sensory symptom. My hip went numb. About five months later I developed optic neuritis.

Until I got optic neuritis, I had no idea that it was MS. I'd been told the numb hip was a sprain by a PA, who told me to put heat on it...and she basically yelled at me when I told her that heat made it worse. (accused me of faking it)

After I got ON, a neuro told me that the numb hip was Meralgia Paresthetica...and about 3 or 4 months after that I was diagnosed with MS.


Erin524 06-24-2013 06:25 PM

I mentioned the MMR and the numb hip to the doctors that I saw back then. They ignored it.

Jules A 06-24-2013 06:30 PM

No problems here and after diagnosis I had the rabies and hepatitis B series without any change in MS stuff.

SallyC 06-24-2013 06:51 PM

Like my evil twin Kitty, I had a bad case of Mono at 20.
I also had Strep throat at 19. I feel that both may have
triggered MS.

Kitty 06-24-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 994954)
Like my evil twin Kitty, I had a bad case of Mono at 20.
I also had Strep throat at 19. I feel that both may have
triggered MS.

I had Scarlett Fever when I was 5. I remember my Mom telling me about it. Is it called something else today or is it not around anymore?

Bethsca 06-25-2013 01:32 PM

What about shingles?
 
I had chickenpox when I was a kid and would like to get the shingles vaccination, but I have heard that it can cause problems with MS. Anybody know?

Jules A 06-25-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bethsca (Post 995103)
I had chickenpox when I was a kid and would like to get the shingles vaccination, but I have heard that it can cause problems with MS. Anybody know?

I don't know but am also tempted to get the shingles vaccine. I bet our MS specialists will have an opinion.

SallyC 06-25-2013 02:43 PM

I had the Shingles about 10 years ago, so I'm not considering it.
DD also had shingles. prior to being DX with MS. I have no idea
if the S vaccine carries a warning.:confused: I believe that the same herpes
virus that causes chick. pox and shingles, caused our (my DD's
and mine) MS!!!

mrsD 06-25-2013 02:57 PM

To find more information on this subject, check YouTube.

Use Dr. Blaylock vaccine as a keyword. He has done alot of reading and research of the published articles on vaccine injury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--nWrqIspnQ
This is part one of four.... an interview with Dr. Mercola.
He explains in this 4 part video sequence the role of adjuvants and toxicity from vaccines.
Please look at all 4 videos. #2 has the most detail IMO.

This sequence is in regards to H1N1 vaccines specifically. We now know that this "epidemic" never arrived. And we have had one person from Canada who had nerve damage from H1N1 that was given to him twice by mistake. It depends on the person and their own immune structure as to whether they get a reaction or damage.

Mariel 06-29-2013 01:02 PM

i absolutely cannot take vaccinations, at least the usual flu ones. For years I could take the Flu vaccination if it was without mercury, but this year, at my son's urging, I sought out a pediatrician who would give the flu vaccination without mercury. I got sick anyway, and looking at the various toxins which crowd into various brands of flu vaccine, I can see why.
But GirlfromNorway, I may be a special case (or maybe not). I have Porphyria as well as having an earlier MS diagnosis, and people with Porphyria are more likely to have reactions to toxins such as these, because of difficulty in the detox pathway.
I remember having my first Polio vaccination and getting double vision for a few hours, which meant I could not go to my teaching job, but then this went away quickly.
The reaction to the flu shots is largely spasticity, stiffness and pain and incoordination--difficulty doing thing with my hands and feet, and difficulty thinking clearly, which puts me then into an emotional tizzy of frustration. I have not had the double vision with the flu shot that I had from the polio shot, but I recovered quicker from the polio shot. It takes me several days at least to get my bearings after a flu shot.
It has always seemed on the MS forums that some people react as I do to these things, and others do not. Which underscores to me that MS arrives and grows through different pathways...we are not all the same. Some of us have co-morbid diseases, some do not. Some have significant chemical sensitivity, others do not have so much, or even no apparent chemical sensitivity.

Needless to say, I suffered from doctor disbelief and brush-offs when young...throughout my whole youth. And was late in getting any diagnosis. First MS, later Porphyria. I now also have Polycythemia Vera, but that is not closely related to the neuro-impacting MS and Porphyria.

Natalie8 06-29-2013 09:49 PM

I believe you are not supposed to get the Shingles vaccine if you have MS because it's a live virus (unlike many other vaccines). Or maybe it's because I'm on Tysabri that I can't have live vaccines. The only reason I thought about getting one is because I got shingles 2 years ago!

Blessings2You 06-30-2013 05:34 AM

Here's a link to what the NMSS has to say about vaccinations:

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/liv...ons/index.aspx

And here's a quote:

The information about the shingles vaccine -- Zostavax -- isn't as clear-cut as it is for some other vaccines. In general, MS specialist neurologists do not recommend any live-virus vaccine for people with MS because live-virus vaccines can precipitate an increase in disease activity. However, Zostavax is somewhat unique because most people have had chicken pox earlier in their lives and therefore already have the virus in their bodies. If a person has had chicken pox or tests positive for the antibodies, this would likely be a safe and beneficial vaccine to take. However, each person needs to discuss the potential benefits and risks of this vaccine with her or his healthcare provider. In terms of the possible risks for a person with MS whose close family member receives this or any other live virus vaccine, MS specialists are not in agreement. This is another decision the person with MS needs to discuss with her or his physician.

mrsD 07-04-2013 09:01 AM

This shingles vaccine does not give very good results.

Estimates are only 50% benefit.

Also the H1N1 vaccine has since 2009 been studied in Finland, Sweden, and now England as a potential cause of Narcolepsy in children.

You can find several articles on Google using the keyword
"vaccine narcolepsy".

kicker 07-04-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty (Post 994961)
I had Scarlett Fever when I was 5. I remember my Mom telling me about it. Is it called something else today or is it not around anymore?

In 94-95 my 2-3 year old son had Scarlett fever. Is it Strep related? Didn't know it was that until they told me. He went through it fine, seemed mild.

Kitty 07-04-2013 10:33 AM

I found this article on Scarlet Fever: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/scarlet-fever/DS00917.

It sounds almost like Mono. I had Scarlet Fever when I was around 5 years old. I also had many bouts of Strep over the years. Mono at 19, Chicken Pox at 25. Then about six months before I was dx with MS (2005) I had back to back severe Bronchitis. I was tired and run down as both my parents passed away within 2 months of each other (January and March 2005). I think my immune system was just kaput.

barb02 07-04-2013 10:59 AM

I have had the flu vaccine every year for probably about 15 -20 years with no problems other than a slightly sore arm. I had to get a tetanus vaccine 3 years ago after cutting my hand and going to the ER. I also did not have any problems with it. I asked my neuro about the shingles vaccine and he said it "should" be fine since I am not on an immune suppressant. My pcp had recommended I get it. I think the CDC is not recommending it for everyone over 55. I am not sure if my insurance will cover it until I am 60. I have not pursued it.

Jules A 07-04-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barb02 (Post 997369)
I am not sure if my insurance will cover it until I am 60. I have not pursued it.

If that is the case perhaps you can pay out of pocket and get it sooner?

I really don't want to get shingles! :eek:

Mariel 07-04-2013 10:27 PM

I had shingles five years ago, running from hip to foot. It was painful neuropathy, and I was in the hospital several days on Valtrex, which did suppress it, but I was then on a walker for a couple of months. It was bad, but I would rather not risk a vaccine to avoid it. Vaccines probably have longer lasting harm to me than actually having a painful but curable disease like shingles. Of course I still have the virus in me, no doubt. I am SURE I got it from taking a chemo for my Polycythemia Vera, which lowered my immune system. I no longer take the chemos which most people with PV take. I have taken p32 radiation twice at Mayo to lower platelets instead. Long trip but no side effects.

Midori2013 07-10-2013 09:49 PM

Very first symptom(s)?
 
What were you very first MS symptom(s)?


Then how LNG after that did you get the dx for ms?


Thanks!

KitKaplan 12-06-2017 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlFromNorway (Post 994829)
If so, please list the type of vaccination, how long it took from the time of the immunization to the occurrence of MS symptoms, and what your doctors have said about this (possible alternative medical explanations to the MS).

Not that but Chronic Fatigue which led to a boatload of other neurological issues including digestive issues, severe memory loss, 50 Pt's of IQ, encephalopathy, nerve damage, siezures, etc. I'm permanently disabled and have been bedridden for years at a time. DO NOT EVER GET FLU SHOTS OR VACCINATIONS IF YOU CAN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE INSOMNIA OR AUTOIMMUNE ISSUES. After I got sick I joined support groups and it was common for people to get seriously sick after flu shots. I mentioned it to my pharmacist and she gave me a form to report it and they wanted $250. 10 years later I have to take a lot of stimulants to get out of bed. Ive seen tons of doctors and nothing worked but EMDR to reduce stress. I find solutions on forums like this. Good luck.

Starznight 12-09-2017 09:46 PM

I’ve not had issues getting the pneumococcal vaccine, however tetanus shot did give me with an eye twitch and some extra uncontrolled muscle movements in my hands for about a year afterwards. Mostly I try to be practical when it comes to vaccines, if the potential for catching disease is high, and disease is greater suffering than the vaccine side-effects, then I get the vaccine. I skip the flu shot, as my risk group even with MS is lower than potential side-effects. Pneumococcal however I’m at a higher risk due to both the MS and scarring on the bronchial tubes with additional risk from chronic sinusitis. All roads pretty much run straight towards pneumonia for me and nearly died from it twice before the vaccine came out. Not willing to risk a third time.


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