Please help me understand my mri
 

Some probable right sides uncinate spurring at c2-c3 levels and c3-c4 level this should be correlated with the areas of the patients symptoms.

Definite nerve root encroachment is not appreciated.
Probable hemangioma in the t2 vertebrae

Wecome the the board.
 

First you are not alone and the people here can be a real support and a well full of knowledge and experience. :grouphug: I haven’t been participating much on this board but I have kept track of the technical issues surrounding the spine.

Uncinate means hooked so they are describing the mass that is in the form of a hook. I’m not sure of the significance of this but go to Nucleus Medical Media and search on ‘neck spine’ and some wonderful images will help you understand the basics of your condition. The radiologists have identified the probable cause of whatever your symptoms are. By the way what are they? You’ll find in spinal problems that the symptoms are as important as the technical information.

Hemangioma; go to Wikipedia site and search on the term As time goes by Wikipedia can become your best buddy. :confused: This is not a normal notation on an MRI and you’ll need to make sure you ask your doctor for details about what they think they are seeing.

Look I’ve been at this a long time counting my lower back issues which occasionally rear their ugly sciatic pains about 35 years and the best I can say is you’re doing what you need to do…UNDERSTAND. Get help to know the most about your condition. The realm of the spine, nervous system and brain is in its infancy and progress is slow but it’s happening so hang in there! And good luck to you.

All the best to you!

Im only 17 and have pain from the neck into the arm. No numbness i believe i have lost muscle strength i cant even arm wrestle someone without having to stop from the pain. How do they treat uncinate bone spurs and a hemangioma seems to be a tumor or something any ideas thnx

Please read up on your condtion!
 

You need to deal with your doctor and come to a consensus as to what is wrong with you. Then treatment can begin. There are several basic steps that medicine seems to prefer:

1. Physical therapy
2. Meds anti inflammatories, mild pain relievers, muscle relaxants
3. Injections (steroids) into the affected neck levels
4. Physical therapy
5. Injections (steroids) into the affected neck levels
6. Surgery

Please this is only an example of what can be done and the order is only an anecdotal observation on my part. Surgery is a last option and sometimes it helps and sometimes it doesn’t. :(

The problems you are having exist in the realm of the brain and central nervous system. This a part of medicine where progress has been creepingly slow. A pain specialist told me and I quote, “Other disciplines measure progress in years nervous system progress is measured in decades.” I really cannot stress enough GET ON THE WEB AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU! You’re young and computer savvy this will be easy.

Don’t understand what you are reading? Google a medical dictionary look it up. Knowledge is the best hope you have of getting the best treatment you can. People here can help but each case is different and each prognosis is based only on you and your doctor’s best consensus and actions.

I tried the anti flammatory meds they didnt help its been a uear yhat i have had the symptoms and i want a permanent solution besides cortisone shots that dont work

What did the Dr say about the MRI report?

It didn't even clarify if there is uncinate spurring or not - says probable?
Maybe another imaging technique would clear that up?

Then the probable hemangioma in the t2 vertebrae - that needs to be clarified also.

I would request those issues are looked at again to see if something is there or not. Then go from that point.

For the pain from the neck into the arm - if those MRI issues are found to be NOT the cause of the pain, it will help if you tell us about your hobbies, any previous injuries in the head/neck area.

If you've ever had whiplash, or do a lot of computer, gaming, sports, musical instruments, your symptoms might point toward Thoracic outlet syndrome.

But more information from you is needed before we go there..

Or if you want to read about it we have a forum for it-
The sticky threads at the upper section will give you a crash course on TOS-
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum24.html

The symptoms were sudden i never had a accident the only plausible thing i think it could come from is poor posture and i have a doctors appointment with a orthopedic august 21st

Uncinate spurring
 

What are the permanent fix if muscle relaxers and such dont work thnx for your answers

Bone spurrs
 

If my mri says their is no encroachment could the spurs cause pain

I merged your questions into this original thread so replies will relate to all information given so far.
:)

Thnx i didnt know u could do that

Idk the observation of the mri said their is some mild uncinate spurring the impression says probable. The pain doesnt go into to my hand my neck does fill stiff and painful at times but no headache. If its not bone spurs what could it be.

I have a appointment with a orthopedic doctor the 21st ubtil then icant tell you what is wrong. I just dont want a huge amount of hospital bills only being 17

Nobody does no matter how old they are!

This is a game of vague terms and unclear actions.
 

I’m not going to be delicate or easy here. You really are not going to find any easy or clear answers to your diagnosis at the present time. The only concrete diagnosis, MRI readings, prognosis or treatments are those with absolute terms such as readings with dimensional terms such as “the spinal cord is being compressed by 2mm” or the nerve is in compression that kind of terminology. Sadly (or really not sadly) the majority of us don’t get that absolute conclusion. Really if you think about it absolute in the spinal game is worse than the more marginal diagnosis most of us get.

The initial pain that you experience is the real issue here. If there was no pain you would not have gone to the doctor. How bad is it? Is it really bad, just irritating because it’s new or can you live with it? That’s your first set of questions. What can they do for neck pain?

I am a neck pain and surgery survivor (started 2000) so I do understand! There is a bright side to your situation…your age. You have the advantage that your body can help heal this problem. I realize the neck issues are a problem because there is really no way to limit using your neck. Are you into sports or computers? :Head-Spin: Try to identify what makes the pain worse. You’ve noted posture but that’s really problematic for the neck.

I posted the preferred cycle of treatment and sadly that’s as good as it gets. And here’s the real bummer YOU DO NOT WANT SURGERY ON YOUR NECK UNLESS ITS ABSOUTELY IMPERATIVE!:Speechless: It may be permanent but it does not guarantee that the pain will go away!

The orthopedic doctor is a necessary step for you. It can help! Anti-inflammitories, muscle relaxers, pain relievers, limit aggravating activities; even neck braces in the short run to relieve irritating motion all can help the body to heal. Hopefully with the doctors help the pain will be short lived and you can get back to normal. I know it’s not fun!:sorry:

I used to play a computer all the time but not so much anymore. Other than being pushed off a porch when i was a baby and busting my head then it got busyed by a concrete rock and i had a four wheeler accident like 6 years ago landing on my forehead resulting in a busted head i have no other major accidents other than trying to do back flips on trampolines and landing on my neck i have no pther injuries. I lay on my stomach with my head twisted to the right or left while hanging my arm over the bed that helps most of the time and that is the only way i can sleep. I tried muscle relaxers and anti inflamatories
Back in janurary ish and i still have the pain so its not going away over time

Those old traumas & previous computer use could make for painful soft tissue injuries or even a form of TOS.
I suggest exploring the useful sticky threads on the TOS forum link that I gave earlier.

Many MDs are not very knowledgeable of TOS or related syndromes..
A very good PT person/or chiropractor might be of help now if for only for therapy & pain relief.

No it fills like my neck because it hurts alot along with my arm i just dont see how its my c2 c3 because i dont have no headache behind the eye although my right eye fills like it dilates or twitches on its own i cant even do one push up and i only weigh 180 and do farm work i dont have no breathing problems i tried eunnung here a while back and i felt like i had a hole in my right lung which my. Right arm hurts and running really makes my arm hurt but it hurts sitting still so i go find things to do to take my mind off of it and works unless i do something that hyrts it

Bump up -
These are why I suggest seeking expert PT or very skilled chiropractor & exploring more about soft tissue injuries, trigger points, spasms, and possible TOS (linked to that forum in earlier post).

Neurologist........!

Maybe the same thing?
 

I have been having somewhat of a similar issue though I have herniated discs.

I play computer games all the time and the poor posture for years has my cervical spine curving the wrong way. Though I have herniated discs they're not intruding into my spinal column and my doctors can't really figure out why I have so much shoulder and neck pain.

Question:
Does it seem like your ligaments in your neck (i guess they're ligaments) are always tight?
Do you ever feel pain or pressure radiating to your ears?
Is your pain worse in your muscles? i.e. trapezius, Rhomboid, Levator Scapulae
Or is it worse like bone on bone structural pain?

Hey trapkick to answer your question my ortho doctor lookedat my mri and saw nothin other than my c2 is bigger on one side than the other and it curves to the right then straight but they said that those dont cause any issues. First your first question yes my neck ligaments is what i think they are called as well does fill tight. As for ur second question no i have no pain towards my ears. For your last question it is more muscle not bone my bones are fine it fills like the muscles right beside my neck the ones by my collar bone idk their name

Neck muscles are called scalenes and SCM , -
https://www.google.com/search?client...FYaZiALP7IDgDA

those of us with TOS have a lot of trouble with those pesky muscles -
w/ spasms & triggerpoints..
As well as the rhomboids , traps and other upper back & shoulder muscles.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread125577.html

Jomar over a years time it should be worse dont u think

Update
 

Sounds very familiar which is why I was asking. The ear questions was because sometimes I feel pressure towards my ears, but I also have sinus issues.

I just spoke with my Dr. (had an appointment) less than an hour ago and they're going to run some type of test that can tell if there are any abnormal inflamation. Not sure what it is, but I'm kind of feeling like everything is always inflammed.

The Dr. also told me that all those neck muscles could just be hurtng because of over use due to poor posture.

Another question was possible lymes disease. I'm not saying that we have the same thing, just that it sounds similar. I'll keep doing research and work at finding out what the problem is and let you know so that maybe my information could help you.

The most discouraging thing is that it feels like the patient needs to be doing all the research rather than the Dr! I'm not about self diagnosis, but we really need to do the research for them to say "hey, can you test me for this?" Otherwise I'll keep going on like I have been for the past 3 years. In pain constantly with no help...

Last week I saw my ortho Dr. and they gave me a steroid pack for inflammation. I feel 100% better now!! Though I've done this before and as soon as they wear off I'll feel horrible again. (You can't be on them constantly)

Well anyway, good luck! I'll keep you updated!

(I'm not seeing a spell check, so.... sorry. It'snot like this is for my office so who cares :oP )

Spurs
 

Spurs do cause pain and weakness and numbness in your arm. I had surgery back 2008 for spurs and they did what they called a clavicle reconsrtruction where they go and cut off the end of the clavicle where the spurs are located. Great surgeon fixed my problem.

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