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heathery 09-11-2013 05:25 AM

Struggling to understand
 
My mother just attempted suicide for the second time. I am struggling to work out why she took her overdose in a public place? She therefore received quick medical attention when she collapsed and therefore survived. My first reaction is that this means she did not want to die, she wanted to be found, and that this was just a cry for help or attention. Others have told me this is not necessarily correct. Any advice?

She suffers from a personality disorder and depression.

Alffe 09-11-2013 08:41 AM

I'm so sorry you are having to struggle with this. :( We can't know what is in someone elses heart and mind when they attempt to end their lives. I think it was a cry for help...she wants her pain to end. She'll probably succeed some day I'm sorry to say. Please know that you are not alone with this fear and feel free to talk to us. I'm sure you have tried to talk to her. :grouphug:

July63 09-11-2013 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alffe (Post 1013827)
She'll probably succeed some day I'm sorry to say.

I don't understand this.

pooh_ac 09-11-2013 10:35 AM

Wondering #???
 
opps I meant to start a new thread

DMACK 09-11-2013 12:54 PM

Welcome heathery

I'm sorry for the reason your here but you have come to the right place.

A cry for help does appear lightly with your mum, but i think a cry for help is better than no cry for help.

You say She suffers from a personality disorder and depression, this will add to the upset she must be going through. Hopefuly with due medical attention from this attempt at suicide your mum can recieve the care she requires to live a balanced life.

I know its easy to say this and may be harder for you to do.......but try not to judge her.........only she lives inside her head.....

Try talking to her in the future to understand her condition which is probbably the cause of her suicidal behaviour. [if meds are not right the mind can get out of sink....take my word for that...i have BI Polar...]

I hope your mum gets through this rough spell...and i hope you do too:hug:

David

Alffe 09-11-2013 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by July63 (Post 1013844)
I don't understand this.

I have learned from years of reading about suicide, from holding sobbing survivors in my arms, from various support groups, that if someone is hell bent on ending their life,,they will eventually succeed. Praying only makes ME feel better.

heathery 09-12-2013 01:09 AM

Thanks all.

She says she didn't plan to do it there, she had been thinking about it but it was a spur of the moment thing.

Doctors have know said they think the problem is less to do with depression and more to do with her personality disorder. They believe she is doing this to try and manipulate the family into doing what she wants (supporting her financially). They have taken her off all meds as say they weren't helping and only gave her ammo to do this again. They say she is beyond their level of expertise and have referred her on to a specialist in personality disorders.

Feeling pretty lost.

Alffe 09-12-2013 08:11 AM

It sounds like she is getting good care. I'm glad she'll be seeing a specialist. There is nothing easy about watching a loved one "sink". Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers. :hug:

eva5667faliure 09-14-2013 11:20 AM

I always take attempts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heathery (Post 1013809)
My mother just attempted suicide for the second time. I am struggling to work out why she took her overdose in a public place? She therefore received quick medical attention when she collapsed and therefore survived. My first reaction is that this means she did not want to die, she wanted to be found, and that this was just a cry for help or attention. Others have told me this is not necessarily correct. Any advice?

She suffers from a personality disorder and depression.

Seriously
Dear friend
I am a victim of
A FATHER who couldn't handle
Life anymore
I fear at times my so just
might succeed if depressed enough
He is 30ty
32 year old who attempted
And a 29 year old who is working
on herself
nope not fortunate enough
To be honest there have been
times in my depression
Physical being in chronic pain
is enough to say just cut my
pain off literally my hands
would not be able to reach up
and take it off
therefore my father an
amputee before I was born
work defined him physically
he was naturally muscular
much of his genes are in me
only I am not in denial
DEPRESSION IS A HORRIBLE
disEASE TO LIVE WITH
this has affected me in
all my struggles in life
that is unfair
always a lesson to learn
be there
The mind can be pushed to breakdown
Mental health is just not there
A problem most disguised we'll
And then act amazed AT THE WHOLE THING

Lord hear our prayers

Someone who cares

bizi 09-14-2013 05:25 PM

bless you eva
bizi

Alffe 09-14-2013 06:43 PM

Depression is truly a beast! (((eva)))

Mark56 09-14-2013 10:07 PM

Hi Heathery
 
Just weighing in to add prayer to the situation.

So glad experienced expert care is the step dealt to your mother. I hope she receives it well and will learn and grow. My own mother uses the threat of self harm very much as a worn tool of manipulation. She rankled greatly when I told her it was inappropriate to tell one of our children she was contemplating in such a way as to manipulate him into feeling responsible for her.....to run to her beckon call. She so disliked my telling her she needs the therapy I recommended to her that she disowned me for being one who would dare try to hold her accountable for her own choices, her own words, her own path to joy.

So, we do our best, and we move forward. I pray mightily your own mother will see there is great benefit to discovering the foundation of her terrible emotional turmoil. In this there can be healing of the spirit. She can lift up beyond this morass. I know, for I am a survivor myself. It worked for me.

HUGZ in the highest, :hug:

eva5667faliure 09-15-2013 02:32 PM

you understand
that's all that matters
and oh not to have that
someone i can trust
that hurts even harder
not more but harder

thanks for letting me share
with a new found way of
internal healing
support
be in the company of
some amazing persons
such as yourself
it's worth typing
one stroke at a time
there is always someone
ready to help
and lift you up
to talk to who listen

someone who cares


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