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SallyC 09-12-2013 12:13 PM

DD May Be Having MS Problems Again?
 
This morn. she text me about, "had I heard about CCVIS". She said
that this morning, she attended an MS breakfast and a Doc was
talking about new meds and therapies. Told her all I've learned of
all the new and old meds and therapies, and that none of them were
even near a cure , and some of the meds could be deadly.

She thought I was being negative (she always accuses me of
that:mad:), so she said that she is going back to her Neuro (who she
said was a pimp for meds), to see what he says.:rolleyes: I said, do
your homework and make a totally informed decision as to,
whether or not to take one of these meds and not just to
please the Doc pushing it.:rolleyes:

She doesnt like to talk about it and she has been in remission
and denial for 6 yrs now and I'm scared for her!!!:eek::(:o. This
would be a terrible time for this monster to raise it's devil's ugly
head at her. Just divorced, paying high alimoney, 4 children
at home to feed!! She has a good job but will she be able to
keep up?:(

Please say a little prayer for us. Thank you..:grouphug:

Erika 09-12-2013 01:20 PM

Oh ((((Sally)))), what a worry this must be for you. Of course prayers and the best of wishes are on their way.

Maybe your daughter is just doing some research and covering her bases in the event that some intervention is needed at some point?
She really does sound like she has a good head on her shoulders from what you have written about her (the apple doesn't fall far from the tree). :winky:

I'm really hoping that she is just paying heed to the phrase "Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst."
Looking into and staying up to date on the treatments available for this stupid disease really helps to develop a plan of action, should the need arise. Having such a plan also allows one to carry on with life with less worry about the 'what ifs'.

Maybe ask her if that is what she is up to...so that you too can rest easy.

With love, Erika

AynaDee 09-12-2013 02:01 PM

:hug:SallyC:hug:

I can see how frustrating of a situation this could be.

I can understand where you're coming from.

You're just looking out for what is best for her.. Seeing as you have the personal experience, I, personally, would be listening and taking all the advice I could get from you.

Some people just have to make mistakes and learn from them.

I hope so much she doesn't get sucked into the big pharma hype that docs usually pull. (it's funny how they're all about these poisons, yet, if they had to take the crap it'd be a completely different story)

I am glad to hear she's been in remission for some time now.

And hope she does her research. Along with staying stress free. 4 kids? That's impressive, but a whole lotta work when all by herself.

:hug:

Kitty 09-12-2013 02:40 PM

I hope she's just being proactive and educating herself about the new meds that are available for those with MS.

I know how worrisome it can be - especially when your kids are older and don't always listen to Mom the way we wish they would.

I'll be saying a prayer for her and for you, too. :hug:

SallyC 09-12-2013 06:45 PM

She said that she wasn't having an attack, so I guess you are all
right. I'll worry about her anyway..:D

I think it was a drug rep and not a Doc, speaking at the meeting??:rolleyes:

Thanks for the prayers..:grouphug:

barb02 09-12-2013 06:54 PM

Sally, I read your post and thought about responding and then decided not to. But I am back.

First, I hope your daughter is not having a major relapse. I will be saying a prayer for both of you.

Second, I do think you should be perhaps a bit more open to at least discussing the various options with her. You have read a lot about the new therapies. Describe the pros and cons and help her find out more information. Your daughter sounds like a responsible, educated woman who is exploring options. Yes, some of these new therapies/meds may have nasty side effects and even the slight possibility of PML. But isn't it important for her to explore these if she is having a relapse and her current dmd is not working? She has a lot of responsibilities and I am sure she is afraid that she will not be able to meet them in the future. So it makes sense that she is going to seminars and trying to find out more about them. It will probably help her feel more in control if she has a plan.

Finally, I do not believe that all doctors are just a pimp for pharmaceutical companies. Maybe some are, but I know that my neuro is not. Yes, he wanted me on a dmd. When he saw how my body reacted to them and tysabri, he is now hesitant to prescribe any of the new oral meds. The MS specialists I saw at Barnes hospital agreed with him. He discusses the new meds with me, but he definitely does not push them . I believe there are other doctors like him. Hope, I am not being naïve.

I know you are just being a mom and worrying. :hug:

Just saw your post. Glad she is not having a relapse. I don't think a drug rep would be discussing CCVSI since it is a procedure not a drug therapy.

SallyC 09-12-2013 07:16 PM

Thanks Barb. I am so sorry I offended you by using the P word.:o
She did call back to say that it was a local med rep. I didn't
ask any more questions.:eek: She gets mad, if I ask questions.

I have tried to discuss the meds/dmds with her, but she shut me
up and went back into her denial cave.:rolleyes: I'm glad she is looking
into things and becoming proactive....as long as it's her idea
and not mine(KWIM?), the imp..:D

barb02 09-12-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 1014227)
Thanks Barb. I am so sorry I offended you by using the P word.:o
She did call back to say that it was a local med rep. I didn't
ask any more questions.:eek: She gets mad, if I ask questions.

I have tried to discuss the meds/dmds with her, but she shut me
up and went back into her denial cave.:rolleyes: I'm glad she is looking
into things and becoming proactive....as long as it's her idea
and not mine(KWIM?), the imp..:D

Oh Sally - you did not offend me at all. I just thought I should not reply at first because I did not think I should offer a mother advice.

Debbie D 09-12-2013 09:27 PM

Sal...:hug::hug:

We moms know nothing, as far as our children are concerned...until they start to really hit the road bumps of life. Then we become so smart suddenly;)

Do you think part of it is that she's just plain scared? She has seen what you've experienced...

I am very negative about doctors in general. Mainly because they don't take what we say about our bodies seriously-and who knows our bodies better than we do?

I play the good girl when I'm in the neuro's office, but I vent to DH about how I feel about him and almost all docs. I have to admit that my neuro was amenable to going off DMDs, which surprised me, because I also feel that for the most part neuros seem to hand out scripts like a clown in a parade hands out candies.

So if your daughter is well-informed and goes into the doc's office with her questions and addresses her concerns about DMDs with a knowledge base, I am sure that she will be listened to.

I hope she continues to take care of herself-the stress that she has been under can't help either...I will pray for her-and for her mom:grouphug:

marion06095 09-13-2013 05:02 PM

Sally, having a daughter with MS must be a big worry, especially since you know first hand exactly what you are worrying about. On the up side, though, isn’t she lucky to have you so close with all your experience with MS.

It must be hard for you to watch your daughter indulging in denial just like we all do. It also must be hard holding your tongue as she learns things you learned (and told her about) a long time ago.

I think your daughter is in very good hands - yours. I think she listens to you more than you realize. You are both so lucky to have each other.

SallyC 09-15-2013 07:48 PM

DD is in the hospital with Viral Meningitis!!!
She is ok and resting now.

BTW, I just read that MS (chicken pox, shingles, auto immune
diseases), puts a person at risk for developing V Men from
a virus. :eek::eek:

Erika 09-15-2013 09:32 PM

I'm so sorry to hear that Sally.
Both she and you are in my prayers. May you both rest easy tonight and may she recover quickly and be back on her feet in no time.

With love, Erika

Mariel 09-15-2013 10:16 PM

Adding my prayer for her peaceful recovery with as few drugs as possible.

KittyLady 09-15-2013 10:22 PM

Im so sorry to hear all this Sally. I had no idea your dd has MS, and now recovery from viral meningitis. Prayers for a speedy and healthy recovery from this.

Natalie8 09-16-2013 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KittyLady (Post 1014924)
Im so sorry to hear all this Sally. I had no idea your dd has MS, and now recovery from viral meningitis. Prayers for a speedy and healthy recovery from this.

Sorry to hear that Sally. Sending positive thoughts. How do they treat viral meningitis? With bacterial meningitis they give antibiotics but antibiotics don't work on viruses obviously. Yikes!

Kitty 09-16-2013 06:53 AM

Sally. I hope she gets better fast! :) Both she and you are in my prayers.

SallyC 09-16-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natalie8 (Post 1014937)
Sorry to hear that Sally. Sending positive thoughts. How do they treat viral meningitis? With bacterial meningitis they give antibiotics but antibiotics don't work on viruses obviously. Yikes!

Right, they are giving her liquids and meds, she said. What meds,
I don't know? Comfort meds? Anti Viral?

She called this morn. Feels better..has not seen Doc yet. I hope
they keep her to make certain, there are no infections, coming
from her MS. I told her to keep taking her LDN. I swear, she
will heal faster.

I'll let you all know and thanks for being here for me/us.:grouphug:

SallyC 09-16-2013 01:32 PM

Doc was going to keep her another day, but changed his mind
and letting her come home to finish healing. Her fever is down
and she feels like she's going to live now. LOL! YEAAAA!!!

Must have been your prayers, thanks all:grouphug:

Debbie D 09-16-2013 02:26 PM

Goodness, Sal...glad she's well enough to go home. Tell her to keep drinking liquids!!

Prayers continuing for your DD & for you:hug:

jprinz99 09-17-2013 09:34 AM

Whew! Glad to hear she is well enough to go home!

*can't find the slot in my laptop to send her some chicken soup to get well soon or the slot that lets me send you a 'good stiff drink' for your nerves

SallyC 09-17-2013 09:15 PM

She is much better this evening. Says she is going to the grocery
tomorrow.:eek: Hope she's not rushing it. Just like her Father. He
never had time to be sick.:hug:

ewizabeth 09-17-2013 10:43 PM

I am hoping she will want treatment with something safe like Copaxone or Avonex. I met a woman while on vacation who said she regretted not using meds, she was in a powerchair and had gotten worse the past nine years. She said she opted to not treat early on because she felt good and she really regrets it now and she just wants to get out of the chair. I tried to console her and told her the meds may have or not made a difference. But she really touched me and reminded me why I stick myself each night. :hug:

SallyC 09-17-2013 11:16 PM

Wiz, she won't take Avonex because she saw 1st hand what the
side effects did too me.:eek: But I hope perhaps Copaxone? She will
do what is right for her.:)

AynaDee 09-24-2013 06:06 PM

(((SallyC)))

Very scary, but I am so relieved to continue reading and find she's doing better! Hopefully she takes it nice and slow instead of quickly jumping back into life full speed.

So glad to hear she's recovering well :hug:

:)

Mariel 09-28-2013 06:50 AM

Have you talked with her about what helped you? (LDN)

Have you suggested the Swank Diet? I know it's not too fashionable, but I am sure the diet helped me. I've been on it so long I no longer count the years. About 25.

SallyC 09-28-2013 10:19 AM

She is kinda on the same lean cousine diet as I am.
And been on LDN for about the last 10 years.
She is still in remission...

Thanks for asking, Muriel.:hug:


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