NeuroTalk Support Groups

NeuroTalk Support Groups (https://www.neurotalk.org/)
-   Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) (https://www.neurotalk.org/reflex-sympathetic-dystrophy-rsd-and-crps-/)
-   -   Out to lunch... scary! (https://www.neurotalk.org/reflex-sympathetic-dystrophy-rsd-and-crps-/196777-lunch-scary.html)

Vrae 11-06-2013 04:42 PM

Out to lunch... scary!
 
So I have not been feeling well and decide to go grab some hot egg drop soup for lunch at a joint called paradise café. I begin to eat this and my tongue forgets what it is suppose to do in that whole swallowing action we do when we eat. It's a CRPS issue I've had for a while now and strikes whenever it wants to but almost always this is a problem when the repetitive action of swallow, swallow, pause is involved. I had actually forgot about this when I went for soup. I was looking for comfort food being sick and all.

Anyway, so I start to eat and start to choke. I mean REALLY CHOKE! :eek: With all the phlegm I have going on this only made what is always kind of frightening experience, a crazy scary experience! Sheesh! I am by myself and think well hell, I'm going to die in paradise.. lol. :rolleyes: Now my head wont quit pounding... ug / ouch! It's nap time now for sure.

RSD ME 11-06-2013 08:43 PM

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience eating. Sometimes when I eat the food seems to gets stuck in my throat and won't move for a about a minute. It's gross but I usually have to get it back up and then spit it out. Usually acid accompanies it. I don't know why this happens but it sucks. I'm going to ask my endo dr about it when I see her next week. It doesn't happen too often thank goodness. I never had the tongue problem you have though, but it sounds awful. I hope it doesn't happen anymore to you and that you feel better soon.

painman2009 11-06-2013 11:23 PM

hey guys.. this happens to me ..A lot! when I spoke with My PM dr he said it is most likely due to the medications we take. first our body responds slower than a normal body (meds) and also the medication dries us out making it more difficult to swallow ..the enzymes that make up saliva also act as a lubricant.. knowing doesn't make it suck less

Vrae 11-07-2013 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painman2009 (Post 1027354)
knowing doesn't make it suck less

lol ... so true! :rolleyes:

Vrae 11-07-2013 02:47 AM

Whoa… here we go.
 
Sorry it’s such an explicate docu of my day today.

So there was no nap today (damn it). I worked this morning , went to lunch, made my post here, laid down and I start having big time pain in what feels like my gallbladder (right side by my lower rib cage). Also having intermittent pain on the opposite (left side) too. My upper back muscles (not my spine), chicken wings area, screaming with pain. I felt nauseous, I have had HORRIBLE heartburn, digestive issues, and everything in me was saying your gallbladder is in trouble. Trying to find something to eat that doesn’t kill me with indigestion afterwards is a chore. This was another reason I was trying to seek out something I thought might be easy on me. Soup that was basically clear, and well that didn’t work out, so I ended up with chicken and veggies (Moo Goo). Apparently it was all for not. I ended up in the ER tonight. What a fiasco that was. I just love the hospital. :rolleyes:

I felt so bad because I waited for my husband to get home to take me right after he walks in the door from work (new job started in Oct). He’s sick as a dog (several of us in the house have this virus) and I have to make him drive me across town and sit in the ER with me. His head is about to explode from sinus pain, he’s brought his laptop to try and finish his homework (he’s in college), as his term papers are coming due, and did I mention just a few weeks ago we got news that his father has terminal lung cancer that has metastases in his bones, brain, spine… everywhere. They have given him six months. He lives in San Francisco. So while we are in our five hour wait and see pattern with me, he gives me an update on what’s going on with his Dad. I feel like such a pain in his you know what. This man must truly love me, and because I love him, I feel like such an extra burden!! It’s ALWAYS something going on with me!!


The ER.. The short version of this visit: They do an EKG to make sure I’m not having a heart attack (omg) :eek: and thank goodness that was ok. They do a sonogram and gallbladder looks fine (in the moment I’m finding this VERY hard to believe). They have me swallow a lidocaine / Maalox cocktail. I did tell them I nearly choked to death earlier in the day. At this point I am scared that I will have a repeat episode, but I do it anyway. OMG!!! That was horrible in every way! They gave me some meds for pain, and IV Zofran and some sort if IV antacid.

The bottom line: The diagnoses is GERD. What? What’s that? Doc tells me; gastroeesophageal reflux disease (perfect, another disease), and PUD Peptic ulcer disease (oh great, one more). Says it’s probably also Gastro paresis. Awesome. I think I’ve heard about the connection with that and CRPS. He looks at me like he has no idea to confirm a connection, so we glaze over that. :rolleyes:

So not only do I have spasms in my bladder, I have to assume that the CRPS is the culprit here too as the doc is explaining the nerves involved in all this. <sigh>

They loaded me up with Rx and now I will be looking for a GI doc I guess. ER Doc says, yes, you need to see one. This is turning into a full time job just chasing doctors. I can’t even get what is supposed to be my other full time job put to bed so I can focus on all this. I’ve been lucky to get 3, 4 or MAYBE 5 hours in at work and then I’m done. I have to lay down for the balance of the day.

I feel so overwhelmed with all this. My disease(s) are wearing me out, literally. And I fear everyone else too! Damn it’s depressing.

Brambledog 11-07-2013 04:30 AM

Oh Vrae honey, I'm so sorry you're dealing with yet more and more... At least they didn't say there wasn't anything wrong (which we all know they can do even in the most extreme circumstances) and you know what's been causing those awful problems. Hopefully they can treat them now and you will start to feel a bit better.

Of course it sucks. You completely don't deserve this crap, and I wish I could wave a magic wand for every one of us and just take it all away. But we can't, and you have to take some deep breaths and gradually come to terms with it and find some balance again.

You'll be ok girl. You're brave and positive and you can get through this. I admire so much the way you tackle everything that tries to stop you living your life the way you want. You'll get there.

As Joe Black said, 'you're one of my favourites' :hug:

Bram.

RSD ME 11-07-2013 08:33 AM

Hi Vrae, I'm sorry you have to see a GI, but at least the ER didn't find anything wrong with your gallbladder. I understand the overwhelmed part with drs. I feel like it's a full time job too seeing them and am not looking forward to seeing my Endo dr next week. I still have to get my mammogram this year, which I haven't done yet, because of all my other health stuff going on. I don't know how you work full time with three kids and deal with all your drs appts and all of your pain while taking such high doses of nuerontin. I give you ALOT of credit. You inspire me to keep fighting. I hope you feel better soon and my thoughts are with you.

zookester 11-07-2013 09:24 AM

Hey Vrae,

Dang girl.. I'm so sorry to learn of your lunch and then ER trip, that had to have been one scary. Glad to hear the ER seems to have treated you with respect and did a thorough evaluation with appropriate referrals. I hope you are able to get into the GI specialist quickly.

I don't know anything about GERD or PUD but I am intimately familiar with gastroparesis and can offer a few tips that have help me deal with it. Very small meals like even just a few bites at a time or nothing bigger in total volume of more than a half of a cup. Chew, Chew, Chew.. this is very important since our stomach no longer has the ability to break things up and move them along.. so you can't chew to much. Avoid drinking anything including water with meals.. and try to have your last sip 30-45 min. before/after meal time. Grazing throughout the day instead of eating "meals" works much better for me.. although it makes it difficult to eat with others :( Even a sandwich for me is cut into quarters, so it generally takes me 2-3 hours to finish a normal size sandwich. Avoiding high fat foods, meat and pork products, salads, uncooked vegetables, corn and products made with corn has helped me tremendously. When things are really bad I switch to a pureed diet for a few days, sticking with the same principle of no more than a 1/2 cup total volume at one time max. If you are vomiting a lot, then you will really benefit by epsom salt soaks to improve your magnesium levels. You will also want to watch your potassium and sodium levels when frequent vomiting episodes occur as this will only increase problems. I hate gatorade but that is a good source of electrolytes if you can tolerate small amounts of it. A couple of saltine crackers twice a day will give you plenty of potassium and may help reduce reflux when taking meds. Sorry for rambling..

I hope some of the above is helpful to you and most importantly I hope and pray you are able to get these GI issues under control quickly.

You are blessed (as am I) to have a wonderful and supportive husband. I am sorry to hear about his father and hope that his remaining time is filled with fond memories, family & friends!

Have a better day,
Tessa

Vrae 11-07-2013 10:34 AM

Thanks Tessa!

GERD/PUD: Me either, but I guess it will be my new homework / research project. Thank you so much for the advice on gastroparesis! I know what you’re saying is true and yet as I am reading it and I am thinking that I have a LOT of work to do to change my eating habits. After last night it’s pretty much in my face that I have to make some changes. It was really painful and still feels swollen in that area to me. It’s all weird.

May I ask, why no fluids with meals? No salad and no raw veggies? … well damn. I will miss those!

I love to cook. Of course it is becoming a chore more than pleasure anymore, and now in many more ways than one. We have such a large family still at home that I tend to try and cook things that stretch. It’s become such a hassle with my guts that I have been just avoiding eating and then eating one meal a day, and maybe a snack along the way through my day. This wouldn’t be good if I had no stomach issues.

I’m sure that you can relate when I say that the days take on a life of their own and making, taking time for me, is some days next to impossible. I have so many lifestyle changes that MUST be made. I feel like I am going in s-l-o-w motion while drowning in my “to do” list. The kids, the husband, our business, his job, school for everyone, my father in law, the house, the animals, this damn virus … oh and my disease(s), now plural I guess.

Without any doubt I am truly blessed to have this wonderful, wonderful man in my life. My partner, my lover, my best friend, my confidante. We have had a magical love affair that has lasted over a decade. I can’t even imagine life without him. With that said, I feel like I am wearing him down. I can see the extra stress on him coming from so many directions and it frankly aggravates me beyond measure that I am a part of that additional stress. <sigh>

Thank you for the kind words about my father in law. My husband and his brother are going to visit him during Thanksgiving. I am hoping they can make a few more good memories during what will be such a tough time for all of them.

Thanks again to you and the others for your response. You guys are the best! I’m off to try and have a much better day and see what I can knock off of that list of mine. VR

Brambledog 11-07-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrae (Post 1027464)
I’m sure that you can relate when I say that the days take on a life of their own and making, taking time for me, is some days next to impossible. I have so many lifestyle changes that MUST be made. I feel like I am going in s-l-o-w motion while drowning in my “to do” list. The kids, the husband, our business, his job, school for everyone, my father in law, the house, the animals, this damn virus … oh and my disease(s), now plural I guess.

Without any doubt I am truly blessed to have this wonderful, wonderful man in my life. My partner, my lover, my best friend, my confidante. We have had a magical love affair that has lasted over a decade. I can’t even imagine life without him. With that said, I feel like I am wearing him down. I can see the extra stress on him coming from so many directions and it frankly aggravates me beyond measure that I am a part of that additional stress. <sigh>

Vrae, your husband is a lucky guy too, and remember that if things had been the other way around and it was him fighting all this stuff, even though some times might be very difficult, you wouldn't blame or resent him. 'For better or worse' :winky:

That drowning, slow motion feeling sounds very familiar...:rolleyes: Hang in there, and well done - keep going, keep fighting. You'll get there.

Bram.

RSD ME 11-07-2013 11:24 AM

I see the stress in my husbands eyes sometimes too Vrae. It makes me feel so guilty. He never wants to tell me he's stressed because he doesn't want me to get upset, so he tries to carry the brunt of everything by himself like my illness, his diabetes, medical bills, college tuition, etc. He drives me to every dr appt, since I don't drive anymore, even when it's in NY. He works a full time job and several part time jobs and in between them he drives me to drs appts and the pharmay to pick up prescriptions. He will take me out to local restaurants to get me out a little to lift my spirits. He was one of the people who said maybe loosing weight and exercising more would help ease the pain of rsd. He knows it won't take the pain away, but he knows rsd attacks my weak areas which are mainly my hands and feet. I know he was just trying to help. My pm dr though told me the last two times I saw him, to exercise more, when I told him the rsd was spreading to my feet and my other hand and wrist. I felt like he was trying to help, but also felt that my dr could have offered more options to contain the spread. He didn't and when I see him next week I will talk to him about this.
I know it's hard Vrae to see the stress on your husband, but try not to feel guilty. Bram is right. For better or worse and it's not your fault that this happened to you. I know I feel guilty too sometimes, but know I would do the same for him if this situation was reversed. It's also hard on the kids too, I know, but families are with us to help each other through the hard times and it sounds like that's exactly what yours is doing for you. You are very lucky. I am lucky too to have such a supportive husband and son. I feel bad because I flew off the handle last night when my husband and brother both suggested exercise and loosing weight. I know they meant well, and I am trying to walk more. It does help a little. I just didn't feel that great and took it the wrong way. I do have to say though, when a cancer patient says they don't feel well, to people tell them to exercise and loose weight? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Anyway, hope you have a better day today everyone. From your fat out of shape menopausal rsd friend, Renee.

zookester 11-07-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrae (Post 1027464)
Thanks Tessa!

GERD/PUD: Me either, but I guess it will be my new homework / research project. Thank you so much for the advice on gastroparesis! I know what you’re saying is true and yet as I am reading it and I am thinking that I have a LOT of work to do to change my eating habits. After last night it’s pretty much in my face that I have to make some changes. It was really painful and still feels swollen in that area to me. It’s all weird.

lol.. more homework is all you needed to add to your "to do" list :/ Gosh it would be so much easier if life got easier with this but, sadly it just seems to become more complicated and that never ending list doubles in length almost instantly! Damn I sure wish my name was Tabitha and I could twinkle my nose :) Keep your perspective and focus on small changes. Doing to much at once will invariably overwhelm and distress you.

May I ask, why no fluids with meals? No salad and no raw veggies? … well damn. I will miss those!

Adding fluids during meals expands the entire contents making it even harder for the stomach to expel it. A few sips if you must is okay but remember the total volume of your intake at any given time should be small (for me the 1/2 cup.. for you it might be more/less). The bonus is that most people don't chew there food long enough and tend to 'wash it down' instead as we get into such a hurry with life and even with food. Leaving out the liquids usually improves digestion because we naturally chew longer.

Lettuce and many veggies have high cellulose and insoluble fiber which is very hard on the digestive tract for those suffering with GI issues. Insoluble fiber makes and already 'slow digestive tract' slow down even more because your feeding it things that take longer to digest even for a healthy person.. thus doubling the problem. You may find later (when you get things more under control) that a seldom small salad here and there is okay or worth a little discomfort to satisfy the desire to eat it. Right now though I would forgo any raw salads until you figure out what works and pain is under control. Cooked veggies (preferably steamed) that help in many ways are carrots, squash, pumpkin, sweet potato, cauliflower. Pickled vegetables are great because they are actually pre-digested through the fermenting process and are much easier on our stomachs. A tablespoon or pumpkin or mashed sweet potatoes are an amazing way to quell stomach pain and increase vital nutrients.. you won't find a pot of soup, smoothie or even a cup of yogurt without one of the two added around my house!



I love to cook. Of course it is becoming a chore more than pleasure anymore, and now in many more ways than one. We have such a large family still at home that I tend to try and cook things that stretch. It’s become such a hassle with my guts that I have been just avoiding eating and then eating one meal a day, and maybe a snack along the way through my day. This wouldn’t be good if I had no stomach issues.

Yay! I also enjoy cooking but understand the feeling of it being a chore or a burden due to pain and diet restrictions. Although I no longer have children living at home my husband can eat enough for 4! Thankfully, he isn't picky and often sacrifices his own pleasures for my comfort.. it is a give and take for both of us for sure.

I’m sure that you can relate when I say that the days take on a life of their own and making, taking time for me, is some days next to impossible. I have so many lifestyle changes that MUST be made. I feel like I am going in s-l-o-w motion while drowning in my “to do” list. The kids, the husband, our business, his job, school for everyone, my father in law, the house, the animals, this damn virus … oh and my disease(s), now plural I guess.

Oh how I can relate!! Lifestyle changes = new adventure and personal discovery.. that is how I make the changes sound fun :) When you feel like you are drowning.. do like I do and call in a "life line" aka.. code word for "the rest of the listwill have to wait or love of my life.. please lend a hand I'm sinking ;)

Without any doubt I am truly blessed to have this wonderful, wonderful man in my life. My partner, my lover, my best friend, my confidante. We have had a magical love affair that has lasted over a decade. I can’t even imagine life without him. With that said, I feel like I am wearing him down. I can see the extra stress on him coming from so many directions and it frankly aggravates me beyond measure that I am a part of that additional stress. <sigh>

Thank you for the kind words about my father in law. My husband and his brother are going to visit him during Thanksgiving. I am hoping they can make a few more good memories during what will be such a tough time for all of them.

It is never easy.. ever.

Thanks again to you and the others for your response. You guys are the best! I’m off to try and have a much better day and see what I can knock off of that list of mine. VR

sending productivity and less pain vibes your way.. ^^**^^**^^*********** catch it :):hug:

zookester 11-07-2013 01:03 PM

A little funny..
 
1 Attachment(s)
Just a little humor ;)

ing2foru 11-07-2013 01:49 PM

I believe my CRPS started in my gallbladder after having it removed. There were no gallstones, it just stopped working. They found out through a HIDA scan that it was only working 10%.

I couldn't eat for 5 years other than broth, potatoes & noodles etc. Pretty much a fat free, very bland diet. It took me going to Mayo to find out what was wrong & was put on Lyrica & Cymbalta. I am kind of an "expert" in this area & if you have any questions Vrae, I will be happy to answer them!

I am sorry you have to deal with this on top of everything else!

Melissa

finz 11-08-2013 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrae (Post 1027288)
I am by myself and think well hell, I'm going to die in paradise.. lol. :rolleyes: .



bwahahahaha !

At least you still have your (warped, but AWESOME !) sense of humor !

Seriously, that's scary, hon. In the future, No soup for you!

Brambledog 11-08-2013 05:12 AM

I agree finz :winky: Vrae, listen to finz lol!

Bram :grouphug:

Vrae 11-09-2013 09:37 PM

Priceless!
 
You all are so wonderful! :hug: You make me laugh, give me good advice and things to ponder. Thank you for that!

I over did it on knocking things of the household chore list. So far, two days in bed recovering. Looking at my work feeling like I actually accomplished something ... priceless! :p

SloRian 11-10-2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrae (Post 1027288)
Sheesh! I am by myself and think well hell, I'm going to die in paradise.. lol. :rolleyes:

LOL! :D That's a good one :D

I love Paradise Cafe, but it got me too once! I was experimenting with taking some herbal drug and I sat there and got hotter and hotter, and sipped ice water, then stuck my hand in the ice water glass, then took an ice cube and rubbed it on my head, then finally decided to try to get home and collapsed outside of the door. They called the paramedics and I had to go to the emergency room. But I still love to go there - great place!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:01 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.