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Stacy2012 11-30-2013 09:01 AM

2 new supplements have improved my life in 2 weeks
 
Hi everyone!

Well, I have had an amazing 2 weeks, my burning is down by 80% and life has been amazing for 2 weeks now. I began to consider that my problems were inflammation. Since thyroid medication got rid of all my symptoms EXCEPT burning I decided maybe inflammation was a problem. 2 weeks ago I added two supplements for inflammation, since I added them both at the same time I can not say for sure which one is the miracle for me or if it is both.

Zyflamend by New Chapter
Carlson finest Fish oil lemon flavor

Honest fact is I noticed a difference within 24 hours of consuming both of these, so much so I was stunned. I am now praying this is a miracle that lasts forever.

Just thought I would share.

mrsD 11-30-2013 10:07 AM

That is great. I was having mega pain in all my arthritis locations, over a week ago, and by coincidence we bought some preservative free dried cherries at Costco. Within 3 days, all my pain lessened to barely felt...I am still having about twenty a day or so (they are really delicious and I did a small binge the first day I have to admit).

Even my sore big toes, have stopped. My right toe was squashed by a big boulder years ago (two hairline breaks) and always zings me when I bend it. But it stopped too!

These are Dried Montmorency Cherries (tart). Search Montmorency for that post I just made...these are sold on Amazon, Sam's club, and at Costco...I have the Kirkland brand.

They have some sugar but that doesn't seem to be bothering me much. The pain relief is amazing..I am so surprised, since I tried cherry juice and extract in the past with no effect. I guess the type of cherry used is important.

This article says that tart cherries have the most anti-inflammation compounds of any food:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...155672215.html

These are as tart as a Jolly Rancher. They make your saliva flow.
My doctor told me to use one Jolly Rancher twice a day to keep my mouth moist so I don't develop stones in the salivary glands...
which is pretty common in older patients. These cherries do the same job. I just love cherries anyway! This has been a wonderful discovery for me.

Stacy2012 11-30-2013 12:48 PM

I will have to check that our MrsD! Glad you found something to help. Isn't it great when we find something to relieve pain/symptoms!!

I think the zyflamend is what is helping me since I don't believe fish oil can work that fast, but I do believe it is a good fish oil. The very first night I took a zyflamend pill my mom and I were sitting by the ocean (visiting florida) and usually I can't stay long as its too warm, well we sat there and hour and my mom was like...why aren't your feet hurting? I brushed it off as fluke since you never no with PN but it has gotten better every single day. I am truly in heaven...now if I can just STAY HERE.

Wide-O 11-30-2013 01:41 PM

That's good news. :)

Fish oil will indeed take a while before it really kicks in, but after a while it will absolutely help combating inflammation on its own.

Synnove 11-30-2013 05:35 PM

hi stacy
I think Fish Oil is awful to take, but I know I am supposed to, also due to cardiac. I am glad to hear that there is a flavored one, I will look for it.

We take this every single morning for breakfast: Oatmeal, and we sprinkle it with Flax- Seed ( that is good antioxidant) and fresk blueberries. It is realy good for you
Synnove

Stacy2012 11-30-2013 05:52 PM

I did NOT think I would be able to swallow this fish oil either, I dreaded it, but believe it or not it is almost NOTHING like fish oil taste, the lemon is all I taste. Some people hate the oil aspect feeling but this does not bother me at all. The first few days I burped but it tasted like lemon!!!! Now I am not burping at all. They say the better the brand the less taste. The reviews for this brand are pretty amazing, out of like 465 almost 400 gave it 5 stars...but who knows if you can trust amazon reviews. I chose this brand after talking to a nutritionist.

mrsD 11-30-2013 07:12 PM

Carlson's is a very good company. Our son used their Super DHA 500mg for several years to deal with his ADHD... worked very well.

I use Krill oil now...no burping no fishy anything with it.;)

Electron 11-30-2013 10:50 PM

That's great Stacy2012. I have found alpha-lipoic acid & evening primrose oil to help my pain.

FYI--I have a book called Foods That Fight Pain, Neal D. Barnard, M.D., which says that there are two natural fats from plants that have anti-inflammatory properties:

The first is alpha-linolenic acid (ALA), which is found in several foods, but in concentrated form in flaxseeds and flaxseed oil. You can ground flaxseed and add to salads, oatmeal, cereal, smoothies, or lots of other foods without even knowing it's there. This is in the omega-3 family of fatty acids, and is also found in fish oil.

The second is called gamma-linolenic acid (GLA), which is much rarer. It is found in borage oil, evening primrose oil, black currant oil, and hemp oil.

I can't figure out why evening primrose oil helps with my PN, but I have tried borage oil and couple of times, which had more GLA, and it did not help the same way.

Ron

ger715 11-30-2013 11:11 PM

Stacy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1033137)
Hi everyone!

Well, I have had an amazing 2 weeks, my burning is down by 80% and life has been amazing for 2 weeks now. I began to consider that my problems were inflammation. Since thyroid medication got rid of all my symptoms EXCEPT burning I decided maybe inflammation was a problem. 2 weeks ago I added two supplements for inflammation, since I added them both at the same time I can not say for sure which one is the miracle for me or if it is both.

Zyflamend by New Chapter
Carlson finest Fish oil lemon flavor

Honest fact is I noticed a difference within 24 hours of consuming both of these, so much so I was stunned. I am now praying this is a miracle that lasts forever.




Just thought I would share.


Just read your post. Sound very interesting. Would appreciate any additional info; like do you take these two daily. Also, how much of each do you use.


Gerry

Idiopathic PN 11-30-2013 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1033145)
That is great. I was having mega pain in all my arthritis locations, over a week ago, and by coincidence we bought some preservative free dried cherries at Costco. Within 3 days, all my pain lessened to barely felt...I am still having about twenty a day or so (they are really delicious and I did a small binge the first day I have to admit).

Even my sore big toes, have stopped. My right toe was squashed by a big boulder years ago (two hairline breaks) and always zings me when I bend it. But it stopped too!

These are Dried Montmorency Cherries (tart). Search Montmorency for that post I just made...these are sold on Amazon, Sam's club, and at Costco...I have the Kirkland brand.

They have some sugar but that doesn't seem to be bothering me much. The pain relief is amazing..I am so surprised, since I tried cherry juice and extract in the past with no effect. I guess the type of cherry used is important.

This article says that tart cherries have the most anti-inflammation compounds of any food:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...155672215.html

These are as tart as a Jolly Rancher. They make your saliva flow.
My doctor told me to use one Jolly Rancher twice a day to keep my momuth moist so I don't develop stones in the salivary glands...
which is pretty common in older patients. These cherries do the same job. I just love cherries anyway! This has been a wonderful discovery for me.

Mrs.D,
The one that is sold at Sam's is sweetened. I am avoiding, as much as possible, anything with added food. Do you have the one from Amazon, sweetened or unsweetened? I am trying to zoom in the nutritional value but it does not zoom in. I wanted to know the total carbohydrates content. If you purchased the unsweetened, kindly tell me the total carbs. I am considering buying it too for my osteoarthritis in my fingers. They are swelling (knuckles) and kinda reddish. I could no longer wear my rings because of the deformed fingers. I am not complaining about the deformed fingers, this is the least of my problems. I cannot take Ibuprofen and Aspirin due to severe allergy.

Thanks.

Mary

mrsD 12-01-2013 06:58 AM

Mine is sweetened...but it is 26 gm carb/sugars per 1/3 cup.
The sugar doesn't seem to bother me. I don't get any sugar rushes, from them. I don't eat a whole 1/3 cup by any means at one time, either. The bag says 14 servings, and that is about how long it is lasting too (14days). So I guess I am consuming 1/3 cup a day, spread out into about 5 or 6 snacks or desserts. At this point for me it is a small price to pay for the results IMO.

The sugar is also caught up in quite a bit of fiber, so it is probably releasing slowly.

Stacy2012 12-01-2013 07:44 AM

Flaxseed is great for so much, it is a daily staple for me. I take Omega Life Inc. fortified ground flaxseed. They say it is better to grind it yourself but I don't wanna mess with that.

I take the fish oil 2x daily, 1 TBS each time. I take the Zyflamend 2x daily, 1 pill with a meal both times, as it has oregano in it and until you get use to it you can feel weird burnish type thing, but I had taken oregano in my past and knew what to look for. It goes away as you get use to it.

I had read people said that after taking this fish oil it caused vivid dreams...it is true. I have experienced way more dreams and more vivid. Weird. They say it feeds your brain...so odd. Not bad dreams, just more, and more vivid. I am taking it for inflammation but hope it helps my cholesterol too.

Wide-O 12-01-2013 07:44 AM

As I didn't know what tart cherries are, I looked it up, and found that I had consumed them previously, but not in an anti-inflammatory form. ;)

Anyway, I love their taste, so this is something I'd love to try on a regular basis. I think quite a few shops here carry fresh ones (they are known as "morellen" locally, a name that comes from Morello cherries.)

Idiopathic PN 12-01-2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1033314)
Mine is sweetened...but it is 26 gm carb/sugars per 1/3 cup.
The sugar doesn't seem to bother me. I don't get any sugar rushes, from them. I don't eat a whole 1/3 cup by any means at one time, either. The bag says 14 servings, and that is about how long it is lasting too (14days). So I guess I am consuming 1/3 cup a day, spread out into about 5 or 6 snacks or desserts. At this point for me it is a small price to pay for the results IMO.

The sugar is also caught up in quite a bit of fiber, so it is probably releasing slowly.

Thank you Mrs.D. I am impressed that you can spread the 1/3 cup the whole day and for 5 or 6 snacks at that! I cannot feel full with only so little to eat for a snack :-)

Idiopathic PN 12-01-2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1033145)
That is great. I was having mega pain in all my arthritis locations, over a week ago, and by coincidence we bought some preservative free dried cherries at Costco. Within 3 days, all my pain lessened to barely felt...I am still having about twenty a day or so (they are really delicious and I did a small binge the first day I have to admit).

Even my sore big toes, have stopped. My right toe was squashed by a big boulder years ago (two hairline breaks) and always zings me when I bend it. But it stopped too!

These are Dried Montmorency Cherries (tart). Search Montmorency for that post I just made...these are sold on Amazon, Sam's club, and at Costco...I have the Kirkland brand.

They have some sugar but that doesn't seem to be bothering me much. The pain relief is amazing..I am so surprised, since I tried cherry juice and extract in the past with no effect. I guess the type of cherry used is important.

This article says that tart cherries have the most anti-inflammation compounds of any food:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...155672215.html

These are as tart as a Jolly Rancher. They make your saliva flow.
My doctor told me to use one Jolly Rancher twice a day to keep my mouth moist so I don't develop stones in the salivary glands...
which is pretty common in older patients. These cherries do the same job. I just love cherries anyway! This has been a wonderful discovery for me.


Does eating fresh cherries be as good as eating the dried ones?

mrsD 12-02-2013 06:08 AM

Supposed to be! However you have to eat the bright red ones, the tart ones. The extracts and cherry juice used to be made from the dark cherries...and this may be the difference.

The tart cherries are used to make pies.
These Montmorency dried cherries are VERY tart (sour) and that is why some sugar is added. They are similar to a Jolly Rancher candy. My doctor says as we age we get slower saliva, and if you have a sour thing twice a day it helps the glands flow better. Otherwise you risk stones developing in them, which is very painful and requires surgery. So this is another benefit too.

These give the feeling of a "sweet" and are satisfying without continuing to eat them... a small blast of flavor. But I will confess that first day, they were SO good I did a little binge on them. LOL They are nice in salads too. ;)

Marlene 12-02-2013 07:50 AM

I love the dried tart cherries. And once a year, will make sour cherry tart when they're in season. I even went so far as to plant a sour cherry tree two years ago. It yields a small amount of cherries. I have to fight the birds for them though.

Idiopathic PN 12-11-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1033137)
Hi everyone!

Well, I have had an amazing 2 weeks, my burning is down by 80% and life has been amazing for 2 weeks now. I began to consider that my problems were inflammation. Since thyroid medication got rid of all my symptoms EXCEPT burning I decided maybe inflammation was a problem. 2 weeks ago I added two supplements for inflammation, since I added them both at the same time I can not say for sure which one is the miracle for me or if it is both.

Zyflamend by New Chapter
Carlson finest Fish oil lemon flavor

Honest fact is I noticed a difference within 24 hours of consuming both of these, so much so I was stunned. I am now praying this is a miracle that lasts forever.

Just thought I would share.

Hi Stacy,

I hope your "burning" is continuously improving with the new supplements.

Will appreciate your update.

Mary

Stacy2012 12-12-2013 04:49 PM

I am still improved. I never dreamed I would lay outside in 83 degree weather in the sun ever again, but since taking these pills I can. I still have to have my little portable battery fan pointed at my feet and keep water or biofreeze on them but still....the fact that I can do it at all is a miracle.

I still get burning if I am in warm temperature or walking a lot, like shopping is still impossible however it is truly improved by 80% in every other aspect. I can tell a difference when I don't take the second pill during the day.

So for me, this supplement has moved to the very top of my list.

The burping fish oil is gone.

mrsD 12-12-2013 05:01 PM

That is wonderful, Stacy!

Idiopathic PN 12-12-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1036464)
I am still improved. I never dreamed I would lay outside in 83 degree weather in the sun ever again, but since taking these pills I can. I still have to have my little portable battery fan pointed at my feet and keep water or biofreeze on them but still....the fact that I can do it at all is a miracle.

I still get burning if I am in warm temperature or walking a lot, like shopping is still impossible however it is truly improved by 80% in every other aspect. I can tell a difference when I don't take the second pill during the day.

So for me, this supplement has moved to the very top of my list.

The burping fish oil is gone.

That is great. This is something worth trying......

I hope you continue to improve.

Stacy2012 12-12-2013 10:49 PM

I am really impressed with this pill. Do some research, many say it helps with pain. I don't have much pain only burning but it sure is helping with it.

I am trying to find out how safe it is to take long term. There is a lot of info out there but not much on long term use. But I am soooo happy with my improvement I do not want to believe it will stop working or may not be safe long term but u never know.

Also, I meant, I stopped getting the burps from the fish oil, not that I stopped taking it. I love this fish oil.

Jewels43 12-13-2013 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1033137)
Hi everyone!

Well, I have had an amazing 2 weeks, my burning is down by 80% and life has been amazing for 2 weeks now. I began to consider that my problems were inflammation. Since thyroid medication got rid of all my symptoms EXCEPT burning I decided maybe inflammation was a problem. 2 weeks ago I added two supplements for inflammation, since I added them both at the same time I can not say for sure which one is the miracle for me or if it is both.

Zyflamend by New Chapter
Carlson finest Fish oil lemon flavor

Honest fact is I noticed a difference within 24 hours of consuming both of these, so much so I was stunned. I am now praying this is a miracle that lasts forever.

Just thought I would share.

Stacy, I'm so excited for you. I am on Amazon right now ordering some Zyflamend by New Chapter. You said you take 2 softgels a day?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1033145)
That is great. I was having mega pain in all my arthritis locations, over a week ago, and by coincidence we bought some preservative free dried cherries at Costco. Within 3 days, all my pain lessened to barely felt...I am still having about twenty a day or so (they are really delicious and I did a small binge the first day I have to admit).

Even my sore big toes, have stopped. My right toe was squashed by a big boulder years ago (two hairline breaks) and always zings me when I bend it. But it stopped too!

These are Dried Montmorency Cherries (tart). Search Montmorency for that post I just made...these are sold on Amazon, Sam's club, and at Costco...I have the Kirkland brand.

They have some sugar but that doesn't seem to be bothering me much. The pain relief is amazing..I am so surprised, since I tried cherry juice and extract in the past with no effect. I guess the type of cherry used is important.

This article says that tart cherries have the most anti-inflammation compounds of any food:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...155672215.html

These are as tart as a Jolly Rancher. They make your saliva flow.
My doctor told me to use one Jolly Rancher twice a day to keep my mouth moist so I don't develop stones in the salivary glands...
which is pretty common in older patients. These cherries do the same job. I just love cherries anyway! This has been a wonderful discovery for me.

mrsD, I love cherries and think I tried the ones from Costco a few years back and disliked them. I really would like to try them again if they are a little sweet like you said. I don't think it wasn't the tartness I didn't like but the consistency. I remember them being quite soft, almost mushy. Am I right? I wish they were more dried like a raisin.

Jewels43 12-13-2013 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1036464)
I am still improved. I never dreamed I would lay outside in 83 degree weather in the sun ever again, but since taking these pills I can. I still have to have my little portable battery fan pointed at my feet and keep water or biofreeze on them but still....the fact that I can do it at all is a miracle.

I still get burning if I am in warm temperature or walking a lot, like shopping is still impossible however it is truly improved by 80% in every other aspect. I can tell a difference when I don't take the second pill during the day.

So for me, this supplement has moved to the very top of my list.

The burping fish oil is gone.

I have BioFreeze and use it on sore muscles. Works like a miracle. You put it on your feet for the burning Stacy?? OMG it helps with the burning feet? I am going to have to try this. Thank you.

mrsD 12-13-2013 06:17 AM

The cherries are chewy...not mushy. The thicker ones have a slightly soft center...but I would definitely not call them mushy.

Even with the bit of sugar they are quite tart (sour).
If you are a Costco member, they are $8.00 a bag. This size 20 oz. lasts me about 2 weeks of nibbling. What I like is that there is no sulfur dioxide in them...I can't tolerate that chemical so I have avoided dried fruit because of that.

Biofreeze is very good too. I use it for burning when I have a spell of that. (which is not often anymore).

Stacy2012 12-13-2013 10:55 AM

Biofreeze by itself does not relieve my burning. I have a little portable battery fan, fits in my purse, for emergency times and while embarrassing, as it was on the airplane, I will spray the biofreeze then use the fan and the fan makes it VERY COLD AIR. Alone biofreeze does nothing for me.

Yes I take zyflamend twice a day. Many on the amazon reviews take more but I only take 2 a day. Good luck, I hope it helps you as much as it has helped me. I am praying it continues to improve my symptoms. I have only been on it a couple weeks.

Kitt 12-13-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1036655)
Biofreeze by itself does not relieve my burning. I have a little portable battery fan, fits in my purse, for emergency times and while embarrassing, as it was on the airplane, I will spray the biofreeze then use the fan and the fan makes it VERY COLD AIR. Alone biofreeze does nothing for me.

Yes I take zyflamend twice a day. Many on the amazon reviews take more but I only take 2 a day. Good luck, I hope it helps you as much as it has helped me. I am praying it continues to improve my symptoms. I have only been on it a couple weeks.

You have the spray on Biofreeze and not the gel type of Biofreeze that you rub in? That is what I am understanding from your post. The gel type that you have to rub on is much more effective than the spray on type or the roll on type. At least that is what I have found. I have been using the gel type for many years now when needed. It works for me but probably not for everyone. I use the roll on now and then but not as good as the gel.

Stacy2012 12-13-2013 11:15 PM

I have both gel and spray.

Neither work for me unless I use a fan with it. Matter of fact I just now put some on and nothing. Only gives cooling action if I put a fan on it. Just my luck. I use the spray more cuz it is easier. I wish it worked for me.

Jewels43 12-14-2013 03:17 AM

Thanks mrsD. I will pick some up and give them another try. I really need help with inflammation!!

Stacy, thanks for your replies.

mrsD 12-14-2013 06:34 AM

Never under estimate the power of fish oil (krill oil). It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory. Most people in US don't consume enough Omega-3s in their diet.

I'd start that first, as it is maybe all you need. The Zyflamend
is rather pricey for what you get.

I've always used the gel form of Biofreeze. I think that gel is a
transdermal type and carries the menthol and Ilex herb antioxidant into the tissue better. I believe they have reformulated it and now have other antioxidant herbs added as well. I haven't used the new one yet.;)

Kitt 12-14-2013 10:34 AM

Biofreeze is not a cure to an underlying condition. I have read where the act of rubbing in Biofreeze gel helps. It comes in colorless now too. It is like ice according to their site except you can walk around and do your normal activities. Using an ice pack makes that not very feasible.

Stacy2012 12-14-2013 11:43 AM

I agree, i think fish oil is very important. And the zyflamend is $30 for 120 pills that is 2 months which is $15 for a months supply so I don't think that is expensive, that is taking 2 pills a day.

For me, I would pay $50 for it as my improvement is that great with it. I rode a plane yesterday and never had to use my fan, that is quite simply a miracle for me. I sat in the airport almost 8 hours with no burning whatsoever. Miracle. The zyflamend is a saving grace for me. My trip in the airport down BEFORE I had gotten the zyflamend was awful. I had to use my portable fan at my feet on the plane. Results are the proof for me.

I am so happy. Last night after coming home to cold and snow I took a bath to warm up...I didn't even use my fan afterwards. Even my husband said it was amazing the difference.

Jewels43 12-15-2013 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1036904)
Never under estimate the power of fish oil (krill oil). It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory. Most people in US don't consume enough Omega-3s in their diet.

I'd start that first, as it is maybe all you need. The Zyflamend
is rather pricey for what you get.

I've always used the gel form of Biofreeze. I think that gel is a
transdermal type and carries the menthol and Ilex herb antioxidant into the tissue better. I believe they have reformulated it and now have other antioxidant herbs added as well. I haven't used the new one yet.;)

I do take Omega 3 Fish oil. I also have Biofreeze and both gel and roll on. So you take Krill oil? Is it suppose to be better or cheaper?

Stacy2012 12-15-2013 02:46 AM

I know MrsD likes krill but my own research swayed my opinion that there are some negatives with krill and after almost a year of reading and asking people and talking to many nutrition experts at various stores I chose fish oil instead, though I do believe where it comes from is very important.

It is a subject that has many variables and everyone has a different opinion on fish vs krill.

mrsD 12-15-2013 06:23 AM

I moved to Krill oil for personal reasons. It is a highly solubilized type of EPA and DHA... so less is needed because of its better absorption. It also has an antioxidant naturally in it (astaxanthin).

I use 2 MegaReds a day.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...-oil/index.htm

And this is a new paper:
Quote:

Eur J Nutr. 2013 Jun;52(4):1315-25. doi: 10.1007/s00394-012-0441-2. Epub 2012 Aug 25.
Krill oil versus fish oil in modulation of inflammation and lipid metabolism in mice transgenic for TNF-α.
Vigerust NF, Bjørndal B, Bohov P, Brattelid T, Svardal A, Berge RK.
Source

Institute of Medicine, University of Bergen, Bergen, Norway. Natalya.Vigerust@med.uib.no
Abstract
PURPOSE:

Biological effects of marine oils, fish oil (FO) and krill oil (KO), are mostly attributed to the high content of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFAs), predominantly eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA). The study was aimed to investigate the influence of FO and KO on lipid homeostasis and inflammation in an animal model of persistent low-grade exposure to human tumor necrosis factor α (hTNF-α) and to evaluate whether these effects depend on the structural forms of EPA and DHA [triacylglycerols (TAG) vs. phospholipids].
METHODS:

Male C57BL/6 hTNF-α mice were fed for 6 weeks a high-fat control diet (24.50 % total fats, w/w) or high-fat diets containing either FO or KO at similar doses of n-3 PUFAs (EPA: 5.23 vs. 5.39 wt%, DHA: 2.82 vs. 2.36 wt% of total fatty acids).
RESULTS:

We found that KO, containing bioactive n-3 PUFAs in the form of phospholipids, was capable of modulating lipid metabolism by lowering plasma levels of TAG and cholesterol and stimulating the mitochondrial and peroxisomal fatty acid β-oxidation, as well as improving the overall carnitine turnover. Though the administration of FO was not as effective as KO in the lowering of plasma TAG, FO significantly improved the levels of all cholesterol classes in plasma. Except from the increase in the levels of IL-17 in FO-fed mice and a trend to decrease in MCP-1 levels in KO-fed animals, the levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines were not substantially different between treatment groups.
CONCLUSION:

Our findings demonstrate that FO and KO are comparable dietary sources of n-3 PUFAs. However, when quantitatively similar doses of n-3 PUFAs are administered, KO seems to have a greater potential to promote lipid catabolism. The effect of dietary oils on the levels of inflammatory markers in hTNF-α transgenic mice fed a high-fat diet needs further investigations.

PMID:
22923017
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22923017

and this is interesting too:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23876229
Phospholipids is what Krill oil has.

Fish oil or Krill oil...it is a personal choice. But both help with inflammation.

Jewels43 12-15-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1037129)
I know MrsD likes krill but my own research swayed my opinion that there are some negatives with krill and after almost a year of reading and asking people and talking to many nutrition experts at various stores I chose fish oil instead, though I do believe where it comes from is very important.

It is a subject that has many variables and everyone has a different opinion on fish vs krill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1037146)
I moved to Krill oil for personal reasons. It is a highly solubilized type of EPA and DHA... so less is needed because of its better absorption. It also has an antioxidant naturally in it (astaxanthin).

I use 2 MegaReds a day.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...-oil/index.htm

And this is a new paper:

from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22923017

and this is interesting too:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23876229
Phospholipids is what Krill oil has.

Fish oil or Krill oil...it is a personal choice. But both help with inflammation.

I will have to read all your links. I just use Kirkland brand Omega 3's Fish oil.

Rosie33 12-26-2013 05:59 PM

Zyflamed & Dried Cherries
 
I sent for Zyflamed, and both my husband and I took 2 a day for about a week. It upset our stomachs, and caused a great deal of bloat and gas....very uncomfortable. I wish I could send the rest of it to someone who would use it. It's a big bottle with about 120 capsules left.

I tried the dried cherries, and really like them. I have them in my oatmeal in the morning.
:grouphug:

Stacy2012 12-26-2013 06:30 PM

If you are not use to oregano it even says on the instructions to start off slowww with only 1 pill a day.

I use to take oregano pure form years ago so I knew I could tolerate it. But everyone is different.

Sorry you can't take it, as it's been a miracle for me and I just started my son on it yesterday for his knee, old basketball injury causing pain again.

ger715 12-30-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1039641)
If you are not use to oregano it even says on the instructions to start off slowww with only 1 pill a day.

I use to take oregano pure form years ago so I knew I could tolerate it. But everyone is different.

Sorry you can't take it, as it's been a miracle for me and I just started my son on it yesterday for his knee, old basketball injury causing pain again.



As was recommended; I started by taking only one a day. Didn't notice any problem.
Shortly afterwards was preparing for Colonoscopy so had gone off; but will start up again today.


Gerry

Electron 12-30-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1036904)
Never under estimate the power of fish oil (krill oil). It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory. Most people in US don't consume enough Omega-3s in their diet.
;)

Flaxseed is also a good source of omega-3's. They also contain lignans and fiber.
Ron


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