Auto Immune and PN
 

The more I research the more I believe my PN is caused from auto immune disease Hashimotos. Anyway, while reading I found this article, its a broad article on PN with lots of good info for those new to PN and still searching and reading, I thought this article covered a lot of good info.

http://austintexaschiro.com/our-serv...europathy.html

Stacy,
That is the best article on neuropathy I have read!!
I will print it and read it more carefully.

It is so true. When the autoimmune condition attacks, they often attacks many body systems. I can say that is true for me.

I will also recomend theese 2 books that can be ordered on Amazon; Peripheral Neuropathy by Norman Latov, MD, PhD

and, "
Coping with Peripheral Neuropathy" by Scott I. Berman, MD

Also. look up this site from a local support group> www NeuropathySupportNetwork.org. there are some good stories and information

Synnove

There are so many reasons and many are listed there. I address all reasons since it is often a combination.

I thought it was a very good article also. Did you notice that he said he had never had an autoimmune patient come into his office who wasn't sensitive to gluten?

I guess I found this extra interesting as I just completed a year of being gluten-free--and I also have a number of autoimmune problems. My digestive problems and IBS went away when I stopped the gluten, and I've brought my bone density back up to normal from the osteoporosis range-- strontium supplements worked for me--check out the many reviews on iHerb.) Still have Hashimotos though and arthritis in a couple of fingers.

My hardest part about gluten is condiments and unexpected places it hides. I am having a hard time figuring out if gluten is in some things. :confused:

I already gave up breads and pasta and all that when I went low carb. But I feel like I am still eating gluten in things and I dont realize it.

So your antibodies have not gone down being gluten free? Are you on selenium?? My research really suggests selenium brings TPO antibodies down. And despite the controversy, I have started the iodine protocol also. I truly believe that is what God is leading me to do, and there is research that suggests iodine will help hashimotos if you do it the right way with the right supplements to support it.

I do take selenium and have for a long time. I used to have migraines and read somewhere back then that selenium would help. I don't know if my anti-bodies are going down or not. I've asked 2 different doctors about taking iodine; one said there was so much iodine in the food we eat, like bread, that we don't need to supplement. Well, I knew this wasn't the case, but didn't feel up to an argument. When I asked the new doctor, he said I didn't need it cuz I was taking synthroid. I'm not sure about that but didn't pursue it. I've read some of Dr. Brownstein's stuff, and he makes a good case for iodine.
Be sure to let us know how you're doing with it.

There are 4 iodides on levothyroxine hormone. You will get those with your daily doses. (3 on T3 hormone).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levothyroxine

Also most quality vitamins have 150mcg iodide in each tablet.
(Centrum Silver). If you do not use iodized salt with your food, then taking 150mcg a day is a good idea. The food industry does NOT use iodized salt in the preparation of processed foods.

Too much iodine suppresses the thyroid and is a treatment in fact for hyperthyroidism.

Most breads have brominated compounds in them, as preservatives. Slowly this is being changed however. (bromine)
There can be a small amount of iodine in dough conditioners used in bakeries...but how much is not easy to find.
Some seafood provides iodine too.

Iodine is controversial, I get that. I am following Dr. Brownsteins method and I feel led to do this. I am on Natural Desicated Thyroid meds, NatureThroid.

I will never use regular salt again, I only use the original himalayan salt brand.

I can't say what I am choosing to do is right or wrong, it has many doctors backing it. As with anything you can find a list of scary reasons not to do it along with a list of positive reasons to do it. I guess we all have to choose our own path. I have read hours upon hours upon hours on iodine including being under the supervision of a naturopath and a doctor that works with her.

I will say I would not consider iodine in any bread safe or correct, Not even in seaweed since so much in the sea is contaminated but I am not here to try and convince anyone else to do this protocol, it is an individual decision, but you really have to read ALL sides to the story, not just pick and choose.

Guess I will find out. :)

Thanks Stacy :)
 

I knew the bakeries were using bromine, and my old doctor still thought they were putting iodine in our bread. I just checked my salt--Celtic Sea Salt--I don't think it has any iodine in it. I also have some Himala Salt and it doesn't either. I thought these salts were better for us, but maybe I'm wrong.

My pharmacy just switched me from synthroid to L-Thyroxine, the generic. I take 200 mcg each day so, MrsD, do you think I should also supplement with Centrum Silver to get the 150 mcg/da?

I showed my new doctor the L-Thyroxine the pharmacy had substituted when I was in for my 6-months check-up, and he thought it was all right--my old doctor used to write "Do not substitute" on the prescription. I think the new one would do that too if I asked him to, but I still have a number of refills left.

I just really believe nobody cares about our health more than us. No doctor, nobody, and we have to be proactive.

Joano, himalayan sea salt is the best salt you can get then celtic, so you have the top two best. MrsD does not buy into all this salt or iodine stuff, no disrespect intended, but I do.

Do your own research, google those two salts and see what you find vs regular table salt. I have read books and done the research. Table salt has been stripped of all minerals and is what causes high blood pressure. The purpose for the salt is that it is so healthy for you, not to get iodine. The only way you are going to get the iodine you need you will not get it in food and you really have to research more, I do not want to get all preachy about it, especially as most on this board do not agree with the protocol. I made a post about the salt here long ago, I listened to both sides, did my research, and came to my own conclusions.

For the protocol Lugols or Idoral is used, not the stuff you find in vitamins.

I will say, I prepared to do this iodine protocol for 3 months before starting it, and if you are going to do the protocol you have to do it correct otherwise you can have serious bromine detox. Also, if you dont change your diet, detox will be even worse since bromine is everywhere in bread products.

Anyway, it's a protocol not to do without great research and consideration. :winky:

Also, saying too much iodine supresses the thyroid is also controversial, depending on which side of the fence you fall on. Some also say not to use iodine if you have hashimotos, but that is only one side of the fence, so clearly, this whole thing about thyroid and iodine is subjective, and people feel strongly on both sides.

You will have to read all sides and make your own decisions but I promise it wont be easy. There are doctors, and studies, etc, for both sides. You will have to decide which side you believe, if either.

Our body does need Iodine. How much - I haven't checked but the body needs it.

Yes, the body does need iodine and the problem is, bromine, floride, and other chemicals take precedence in the body and push the iodine out, that is a fact. So if you are injesting lots of bread and food with bromine and drinking water and toothpaste with flouride, none of the iodine you MAY be getting is reaching your cells.

There is a pecking order and iodine is at the bottom of that list, so most everyone is iodine deficient.

And people who think nasty white table salt with iodine is good for you in any way shape or form, I suggest really doing some research. You don't have to buy into all the "hype" of celtic or himalayan salt but you surely will find out that any white table salt is death to you. But again, two sides to the salt thing too, so it's up to us to research and decide.

Iodine, zinc and other minerals are important so I eat dried seaweed, shellfish and miso, etc. It looks like everyone has a very different diet. I use sea salt.

I am concerned, yes, about the Himalayan salt (which really comes from Pakistan and should be called Pakistani salt), containing lead, arsenic, fluoride, cadmium and 80 other trace elements. Some of the lists contain 84 elements in various concentrations. This product was promoted in Europe with a free tape recording similar to the Dead Doctors Don't Lie tape that circulated in US about the miraculous Utah mineral clay pits.

I've spent 2 days searching for the truth about it and all I find are unreliable sites, willing to make a buck (actually many bucks) on this item.

A very few sites do give a list of all 84 elements in this pink iron rich salt. (people with iron overload problems have to be concerned about the iron content alone).

So anyone who wishes to learn more can do some searching, but it will eat up a lot of time so get comfy and get to it.

I don't add salt to my food... not for 30 yrs. Hubby uses sea salt, that he buys at Costco.

So yes, I am mega skeptical about the "salt" which is pink, and not from the Himalayas.

MrsD I have great respect for you, so I will just say, we are not always going to agree. :) For every negative article you find, I can find a positive one too. The trace minerals you talk about is another concern I had and I checked it out too. Again, I do not feel your "sources" are better or correct, or wrong. I simply believe the other side and the other sources. We, you and I individually, can only rely on the information we READ. It is not you or me that is right or wrong, it is simply choosing to believe in different sources. As much as I respect you as a very knowledgeable person, you can't always have the correct information, only the information you choose to believe.

This is the only salt I use:

http://www.himalayancrystalsalt.com/

In the end, it's not about right or wrong, choose ye this day whom you will follow, and I am following what I believe is the path the Lord has me, personally, going on. He has never lead me wrong.

I simply shared a little here, certainly not going to try and persuade you or anyone else to walk down this path. :)

I am only sharing my experience the past two days, searching this topic. I even did it on my iPhone (which brings up different Google strings with Safari).

I could not find many "facts"... and that is my opinion. I felt I should say "something" because some readers here look for what I have to say about things.

I am not discouraging you personally, about your use of this salt.
But it did occur to me, that perhaps you could back off it for a short time and see if you feel different? It is a similar technique to isolate a food intolerance, etc.

Natural dolomite for a while many years ago was all the rage, until it was discovered to have significant lead content. No one talks about dolomite for calcium intake these days. Then there was the algae contamination by fluoride, that was involved with spirulina consumption, and fluoride toxicity.

I will say that for myself, I had a huge learning experience ...just after the lisinopril emergency. I started having severe anxiety and palpitations mostly at night, and my doctor and I traced it to my thyroid medication. My tests were creeping up from normal showing too much T4... so I volunteered to drop the medication, for 2 weeks and noticed I felt MUCH better, then started on 1/2 dose which did the same thing to me. So after 3 months of going without, I was retested 3 weeks ago and I hadn't changed much at all. So now the plan is to go without, and get retested in another 6mos. I am sleeping now better, thru the night which is very welcome, and I haven't been cold much this drastic winter, and my hair stopped falling out... etc. My goiter has not returned yet, but it is early days still. So the upshot of that story is that we cannot really take ANYTHING for granted these days. I don't know what will happen after the summer, but I don't miss my racing heart or feelings of doom at all!

Everyone here will find their own way, eventually.... so don't take my opinions on this issue to heart personally, Stacy.

I respect you, so being on different sides of a fence is strange, but understandable, we cant always agree on everything. :)

If you knew my history, you might understand this next statement, but here it is...I am simply led by God. I have many testimonies, but in my life, I never get a flat out "miracle" but instead I am always led down a path that leads to my miracle. So, I do my due diligence to find sources and research but in the end I follow the peace that He gives for my direction, which is my true source.

Sorry, not getting all preachy, it's just my life, hard to talk about it without God in it. I still believe my miracle is coming, He has shown me too many times to have faith than to give up now.

OK all done with this subject, hugs to all. :grouphug:

Yes, it is good to hear all opinions. We all have different sources we learn from.