I just dropped a bottle my foot!!!!
 

I'm okay, but I have a question as to what happend WHEN I DID THIS!!!!

I was emptying the recycle bin in my apartment, into a clear pastic bag. I inadvertently had my left foot underneath the bag.

Now we ALL HAVE DROPPED THINGS ON OUR FEET!!! I know I have. Years ago, I would drop a bottle, or something heavy would fall on my foot and I would go OW, and it would throb and either it would blow up and be a big bruise (yeah I did that when I was 14), or you forget about it because we ALL DROP STUFF, RIGHT.

Well, when the bottle landed on the to of my left foot (exact point was between the big toe and the one next to it but more below that point (on the top of my foot to be exact), WELL THAT WHOLE PART OF THE FOOT BUZZED. OF course it also hurt because I just dropped an empty Snapple bottle on it BUT THE BUZZING. I just stood there and said to Alan, "I think I hurt my foot, I dropped something on it and it's buzzing". Then the buzzing stopped.

What the heck did I do to the nerves in that area?? Did I shock them or something, did I wake something up or something? See, when you drop something hard on your feet, it hurts where you dropped it, then after a while, it goes away. But it doesn't buzz.

MY FOOT BUZZED. It was like plugging into a light socket for 10 or so seconds.

I have never experienced anything like that again. I ususally wear socks but I was coming out of the bathroom. But honestly, even if I had socks on, the bottle would have landed on the top of my foot and the end result would be the same.

I'm fine now, I'll probably put some ice or something, just to make sure.

Boy, these neuropathy symtoms, when they present themselves, it's like discoverying the new world or something. I never know what's going to happen.

I'm telling you, it was like being in the electric chair if they had an electric chair for the foot. Anybody understand what I am talking about????

Thanks, Melody

Hi Mel
 

Can't feel that anymore because of pn but sounds like you dropped
it on a nerve or nerves. You right about putting ice on it. Well
your still feeling. Sometimes i drop something and days later i wonder
were that swollen toe came from. Sorry :( Sue

Do you know anything about Vasculitis? When i was in the hospital,1 Dr.
said go to a Dermatologist that specializes in Vasculitis another said
be sure you see your Vascular Dr.,but i ,was all i could say before he left.
Don't have a Vasular Dr. The cute little girl in next bed yelled just
get us a PLAGUE Dr. I was hoping she would get a response but i guess
he was to busy to answer. :(

As you already know Mel, your nerves are damaged and they will act weird compared to non damaged nerves, thats all my friend :)
Your not wrong, it is a whole new world this PN stuff.

Well, I will tell you that I'M NOT GOING TO BE EMPTYING ANY MORE GLASS BOTTLES OVER MY FEET!!! That's for sure.


And Sue:
You said "The cute little girl in next bed yelled just
get us a PLAGUE Dr."

What on earth is a PLAGUE Dr.???

Mel...
 

The nerves on the tops of both of my feet are very sensitive, and will buzz even if I tap them. I cannot tie shoes tightly because of this. And this is why I rub the Biofreeze there instead of on the soles where my burning is sometimes.
And why I use the Lidoderms (if I am desperate) on the tops only of my feet.

Yeah Mrs.D, my feet do that too. I can just rub lotion on them and when i touch a certain area, it feels like I have a vibrating cellphone in my foot. Sometimes now, the vibrating feeling goes up my shin bone too. I do still feel things when I drop them on my feet and I definitely feel things I step on. I guess some of us loose sensation and some get heightened sensations. To my thinking, probably feeling too much is better than not feeling.

We are all in the same boat:grouphug: just slightly different.

Some information for Mel
 

Hi Mel - I have done something similar to this a couple of times about a year ago and another time (just the other night) and at some point later I will get what I call an electric type twinge or zap every minute or so (sometimes less). I have to tell you that when this happens to me I am unable to sleep and there have been a few nights when I have been awake all night. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING takes this away. I have loaded up on magnesium, have soaked my foot in Epsom Salts, have taken more pain medication that I should have, have sat and massaged it - still every minute - zap!

What I have tried recently is putting cold on it and then putting the heating pad on it. Walking also seems to help, but you can only walk around your whole house so many times in the middle of the night. The minute I tried to lay down, back it came. After some hours (sometimes many) you can feel it lessening and at some point, IT IS GONE!!!

When it happened the other night, it was on the outside of my right heel. Very strange as I do not remember hitting it at all.

The first time this happened, the top of my foot got caught under the door. That was when I yelled for help in the middle of the night on the old board hoping someone else had ideas of what I could do. Most of the suggestions here came for all the good people on this board as I had no clue what to do and I was desperate.

I am hoping this does NOT happen to you, but wanted you to have this information just in case.

Here's to a PAIN-FREE night for you!:hug:

Also, Mel
 

I have also put the Lidoderm patches on it and rubbed the biofreeze on it and this does not work for me either.

I guess the best thing that does work is TIME! Time for that nerve to settle down after it has kept you awake all night.:mad:

Well, luckily, I have never had this keep me away all night (except for when the Podiatrist used that vibrating tool on me and that was over a month ago).

I take 5000 of the methyl b-12 every single morning when I wake up. That's on AN EMPTY STOMACH.

I just put ice on the top of my foot (I don't want it to get swollen). It's not buzzing or anything. When we had that cold spell about two weeks ago, my feet froze, and then they BURNED. Then I started the B-12 and they have not frozen or burned since. They just feel, YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO EXPLAIN HOW THEY FEEL???? They feel DOUGHY. Now if someone can explain DOUGHY to me, I'll say "THAT'S IT"

I can't think of another word to explain how my feet usually feel. I feel them. I can touch them. I do have feeling in my toes. But when I touch them, it's a weird kindo feeling. And when I rub my feet together, well, there's that DOUGHY feeling. Like Bread Dough. Makes no sense, I know.

It's like, I know now that there is something wrong with my feet, but they don't buzz, they don't freeze and they don't burn, so believe me, no complaints here. But good god, when that bottle hit the top of my foot, I thought I was in the electric chair.

I NOW KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BANG YOUR FOOT AND GET ALL THE NERVES SENDING DIFFERENT SIGNALS.

The odd thing, is that the ice felt good on the top of my foot. Now if I did this two weeks ago, (when my feet were freezing), I might have thought I lost my mind.

I am very new to this neuropathy thing and I have to be EXTREMELY CAREFUL FROM NOW ON. Now I know why many people who have PN wear the shoes with the steel toe. That is a good idea.

Too bad I'm a girl who likes pink toenails and pretty sandals.

lol

Melody

How does your foot feel today? http://bestsmileys.com/exercising/8.gif

Today my foot feels absolutely fine!!! That's the left one (with the bottle falling on it) But before,,, the right one was burning for a bit. I feel better not wearing socks but I'm afraid to go barefoot around here. But they're okay. No big thing.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE IN NEUROPATHY LAND. The other day when I was making a wash, I accidentally ran over my left foot with the laundry basket. It's on wheels and I bumped the laundry basket, the wheels ran over my left foot and I winced. It hurt for approx 5 seconds. I did a "oh my god" moment and that was that.

Now fast forward to dropping the bottle ON THE SAME FOOT!!
Could I have originally injured the nerves when I did a wheelie over them, and then when the bottle dropped IT JUMPSTARTED THE NERVES?? I guess I'm just trying to learn more and more about exactly what is happening with my feet.s

Oh, there is a 75 year old man across the street who is diabetic. He looks 50. Looks healthy as a horse but he came down with neuropathy, the same time he was diagnosed diabetic. I said 'really??" He said "yeah, I didn't know I was diabetic so I went to the doctor and they did blood work and I'm diabetic. He has never been on any diabetic drugs. His sugar is never over 125 to 130. He does it with diet alone, and sometimes he goes off but he lost 35 lbs last year (he has since put it back) but when I see him, I shout across the street "what's the number this morning??" and he'll go 95 and I go 118, and we both laugh.

When he first got the neuropathy (in hands by the way, not his feet), his hands hurt and they burn. He went to another state for some kind of light therapy. He did this a few times but then he stopped because it stopped working.

Then 6 months ago, his legs gave way and they gave him all kinds of stress tests (his back was killing him). Well, his heart is just fine, the doctor told him "you have neuropathy in your lower back". (I have never heard of this).

So they doctor sent him to physical therapy and told him to walk. He doesn't walk. He looks perfectly fine but his hands and back always bother him and his hands always burn.

So this morning, I go across the street with my little bottle of Methocobalim B-12 and I start explaning to him (and to his son), all about the methyl. They are writing all the information down and his son will go online and buy it. I told them. "Listen, there is no guarantee, but if you want to try something, this is what you try" And they read the bottle. THEN THE GUY WITH THE NEUROPATHY SAYS TO ME "MELODY, I AM BODERLINE ANEMIC".

I asked him "Nick didn't your doctor ever tell you to take B-12 shots, or take B-12. and he said "No, he told me nothing". So I said: "Take the B-12 methyl, give it some time, you never know, might help"

So I'm sure, sometime today, someone at that house, went to iherb.com and ordered the methyl.

Am I nuts or shouldn't he (when he was told he was borderline anemic), well, shouldn't he have been told about the B-12 from his doctor???

Melody

He probably should have been--
 

--though it might depend on the type of anemia.

But, of course, we've all had doctors who don't have a clue about vitamin or mineral contributions to our conditions--or to helping them.

As far as your "jump start" theory--anything is possible. I suspect, though, that those of us with some nerve damage are simply more prone to compressive nerve effects than "normal" people. Our nerves may not be symptomatic all the time, but since they are comprimised in some way, any "torque" or "pressure" on them--mechanical, or from the swelling of a bruise, or whatever--can get them to express symptoms "sooner" (through the application of a smaller amount of pressure) than it would take for someone without such comprimise.

This is actually very common in diabetics, BTW--they are more prone to carpal and tarsal tunnel, and to meralgia parasthetica, compressive syndromes all, than are those in the "control population". Many of us with "idiopathic" syndromes report similar things. In fact,in my case it has been speculated that my compromise may be causing me to feel my right side cervical radicular symptoms with less pressure/less narrowing of the foraminal space than it would take for someone who has never had a nerve issue.

I'm glad your foot is feeling better. The guy your talking about does he maybe not want to do pills because you said he controls his other issue just by diet? I do know on all the docs I have seen only 1 recomended the b complex. All have just focused on there pain meds or meds like neurontin. I think very little docs in general say the supplements. My friend who is a nurse said that the docs know more about the prescription med and also the companies really try to sell to them so they focus on what they know.

I have to comment on this....
 

People would be amazed (and frightened) at how little doctors understand the
medications they prescribe! They APPEAR to know them, at least, they know the names. But doctors typically only know what drug salespeople tell them, and in these days, that means, only what the drug companies want them to know. And Big Pharma has a long track record in holding back negative data.

The movie Sicko is premiering this weekend... deals with this issue among others in health care, today.

Oh No
 

My first thought was, "I hope the bottle didn't break and I hope it wasn't good Scotch or vintage wine". My second thought was, "Melody is drunk again." :D

My third thought was to actually read your posting.

I went through a long period of dropping things, about 2-4 years into having PN. It just cleared up. One thing that helped is that I made a special effort to slow down and be mindful of what I was doing.

Your experience reminds me of MrsD a few years ago dropping a large rock on her foot. It's weird how we can be numb and in extreme agony at the same time.

I'm glad you're OK.

Wow...
 

Yes, David, it was about this time of year too.

It was a huge boulder I was putting back into our rock wall. It was balanced
on the edge of the wall driveway junction which has a 6in little curb, and I misjudged its' center of gravity, and it just rolled off.

It rolled off onto my foot and hit mostly the big toe. I had hard shoes on, luckily..old leather trainers I use in the garden.

I recall sitting there on that milk crate...and saying boy is this bad...and it took about 5 sec for the pain to reach my brain! Fortunately the foot itself was spared...I had two hairline fractures in the toe, and the podiatrist gave me a special shoe to wear. I used magnets and NSAIDs and ice for the pain, and the toe turned black underneath, but not on top (I guess the ice blocked that).
He told me the nail would probably be spared...but it fell off during our vacation.

The boulder was granite and about 15 in long and 12 inch high. My son was helping me since my hubby can't stand cement work...I always do that here.
So my son jumped quickly and grabbed the rock...and I was spared further damage.

Considering all the rock work we do here and on vacation, I guess I was lucky this was the first major accident with them! This was no where near the top of the foot where I get the shocking feelings when I tap those nerves. This was out and out agony.....:p

I DO NOT DRINK!!!!!! lol

I wish I did. I never liked the taste of liquor in any form.
See how conservative I am?? Not even an occasional glass of wine.

I used to have a glass at thanksgiving but not even that anymore.

And now that I have neuropathy, well, not even a glass of wine.

The bottle I dropped was a Snapple bottle that I was transferring (among my plastics). I never have anything with glass in the house so I completely forgot that there was a bottle made out of glass in my bin. When I emptied the bin into the clear pastic bag, well, NATURALLY, MY FOOT WAS IN THE WAY.

But it's fine, so no problem there.

thank goodness.
Melody

Melody, all I can ask is...
 

was it a big or little bottle? Not that one hurts more than the other...

I guess, pain nerves, not the nerves that are angry because of neuropathy, I believe there are different types of nerves that relay different issues/fuctions to various parts of the brain [they're still researching all this, of course, and don't seem to be much further along than there are 'different' nerves] Well, those pain nerves...the ones that GO WOW! I"VE JUST DROPPED A BOTTLE ON MY FOOT! Well, count your stars that they work?!!

I knew, really KNEW I had a problem, when I was using my cane to get out of my little compact..as I was propelling myself up-I happened to look down and that danged cane was in the middle of one of my feet! Didn't feel it! I am surprised that it didn't get broken and all that. Now, after IVIG and all, I really watch where I put my cane in relation to my where my feet are, and any pain I get [sometimes not fun] I am happy for. As long as I can feel and COMPLAIN about it -where else but here? I feel very fortunate!

Mrs D, the toes are no longer an issue or concern to me...it's the bigger bones like the metatarsals...now THOSE HURT and big time..As did the knee in 2 places last winter. They'd initially decided the knee was just a fracture/chip type thing of the knee cap, till it started to heal..then the tibia fracture showed up... A toe goes 'BOING' well, I Ice it and use the walker..wrap it to go out and then repeat of all preceding...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that WHEN YOU SEE STARS***** then you know you are in the Big Time?

Hugs to all - j

It was a regular bottle of Diet Snapple. Not the BIG ONE!!!

Thankfully, all is well.

I wish the neurologist would call us back.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW. Alan won't call!!

Melody