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Mari 11-22-2014 04:03 AM

Are any of you Introverts?
 
Hi,

Do you feel that you are an introvert?

I think many of us live introverted lives by circumstances of our bipolar and such.

But maybe we otherwise would be extroverts.

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps875761a3.png

Mari

Lara 11-22-2014 05:36 AM

Mari, As you know I don't have Bipolar Disorder (however I certainly am a highly sensitive person in many respects and have other conditions) but I am an introvert and the last thing I can imagine wanting to be is an extrovert. :D I'm quite happy being the introvert that I am. Just speaking for myself I can definitely say I wasn't made into an introvert by circumstances in my life. I was born that way although circumstances probably have affected the way that I view the world and the people in it and to a degree have made me more cautious about social interaction which never has come easily anyway.

Hockey 11-22-2014 06:24 AM

Introverts unite:

We're here
we're uncomfortable
and we want to
go home!

Lara 11-22-2014 06:27 AM

Ha, I like that! I may use it myself sometime. ;)

Brokenfriend 11-22-2014 03:06 PM

I know that I am a introvert. I've been that way ever since my mental health issues got worse when I was in High School.

At the time,I wanted to get away from everyone. BF:hug::hug::hug:

waves 11-22-2014 03:38 PM

Mari,

I know a lot of introverts, and have hugged a few lately because I had not seen them in a long time. They do not like it, lol. Most hug back stiffly. Any many of my people will avoid hugs with strangers/new people.

I would not say I am an introvert, but I am not a huge hugger. I get pretty weirded out when someone I don't know tries to hug me (I will sometimes avoid) but I am ok between friends. And then there's people who just want to do it too damn often.

Mari 11-22-2014 03:48 PM

Hi,

My three siblings are extroverts. I really do not understand them.

They get their energy from being around other people whereas I get my energy from being alone.
I very often need to recharge with quiet time / solitude.

Mari

Mari 11-22-2014 03:53 PM

hugs -- not so much
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 1109274)
Mari,

I know a lot of introverts, and have hugged a few lately because I had not seen them in a long time. They do not like it, lol. Most hug back stiffly. Any many of my people will avoid hugs with strangers/new people.

I would not say I am an introvert, but I am not a huge hugger. I get pretty weirded out when someone I don't know tries to hug me (I will sometimes avoid) but I am ok between friends. And then there's people who just want to do it too damn often.

Waves,


I agree about the strangers hugging.
Geez. I even prefer that we do not shake hands.
Most of the time I feel awkward -- hello, leave your hands by your sides and leave me alone --- but I suppose I am weird.

I hate hugs.
I do what I can to avoid them -- I especially hate being hugged by someone with perfume/ cologne/ artificial scent on them.
(I am o.k. with regular normal sweat smells.)


Mari

waves 11-23-2014 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1109278)
They get their energy from being around other people whereas I get my energy from being alone.
I very often need to recharge with quiet time / solitude.

Mari

I find a lot of interactions draining and absolutely need to recharge with quiet time alone, but there are times when they have a net positive effect on me, even if there is some discomfort. I am thinking of times when I worked alone, that I'd make up excuses to go talk to people to liven myself up. Also, on some really down days, I've been significantly cheered up by acts of kindness by random strangers.

I think one of the questions I had problems with on the Myer's Briggs (I missed two, both from the I/E scale), was something like the choice between spending a free evening at a party or reading a book and some in between options. Well funny but the in betweens didn't appeal, but both of those two did and about the same.

Lara 11-23-2014 01:23 AM

Waves, maybe you're an ambivert?

bizi 11-23-2014 09:26 AM

what is that lara?

Lara 11-23-2014 11:37 AM

It means that they have the traits of both the introvert and the extrovert.

Interesting article from PsychCentral
Thinking about the introvert extrovert and the ambivert

waves had said

Quote:

I find a lot of interactions draining and absolutely need to recharge with quiet time alone, but there are times when they have a net positive effect on me, even if there is some discomfort. I am thinking of times when I worked alone, that I'd make up excuses to go talk to people to liven myself up. Also, on some really down days, I've been significantly cheered up by acts of kindness by random strangers.

I think one of the questions I had problems with on the Myer's Briggs (I missed two, both from the I/E scale), was something like the choice between spending a free evening at a party or reading a book and some in between options. Well funny but the in betweens didn't appeal, but both of those two did and about the same.

waves 11-24-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1109418)
It means that they have the traits of both the introvert and the extrovert.

Interesting article from PsychCentral
Thinking about the introvert extrovert and the ambivert

waves had said

Oh my, I thought you made up 'ambivert' for fun! :D

From the PsychCentral article:
Quote:

The truth is most people are a blend of the introvert and extrovert. We call this the ambivert. It is much like being ambidextrous or able to write with either your left or your right hand. Ambiverts are able to be alone or with others. They like and need both alone time and people time, but they balance the two because both require different energy and meet different needs.
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We want to be careful with what I call type theory. The Myers-Briggs uses a type theory. It was based on Carl Jung’s trait theory. People are divided into types. There are many other theories for understanding ourselves and others. The limitation of types is that people seldom conveniently fit in a type.
The counselor who evaluated my Myers-Briggs score, said she felt that I was probably right in the middle of the E/I scale, even though I scored very slightly to the extravert side. She said that's probably why I had a hard time with the questions that tested that.

I personally found the Myers-Brigss to be one of the most useful things of its kind I've ever done. I have found its "types" useful in understanding myself and others, and in communicating.

Types or artificial categories are good instruments for thinking things out. They needn't and must not be treated dogmatically. These tools are not part of reality. They are only imagined boxes, and we cannot expect to put the real world into them. Instead, it's useful to appreciate similarities between reality and imagined boxes.

Dmom3005 11-24-2014 03:11 PM

Oh gosh, I have been a extervert I believe for many years.

Lately I don't really like being around others. Many times I don't
have a clue what to say. I think its a stage for me.

Recovering from what happened last spring. And having winter hit
us a little early.
My friend who was my biggest helper with my accident. Lost her dad
this weekend. I hate that I can't go to the showing/funeral. Because
I have other things planned.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

Hockey 11-24-2014 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 1109618)
Oh my, I thought you made up 'ambivert' for fun! :D

From the PsychCentral article:

The counselor who evaluated my Myers-Briggs score, said she felt that I was probably right in the middle of the E/I scale, even though I scored very slightly to the extravert side. She said that's probably why I had a hard time with the questions that tested that.

I personally found the Myers-Brigss to be one of the most useful things of its kind I've ever done. I have found its "types" useful in understanding myself and others, and in communicating.

Types or artificial categories are good instruments for thinking things out. They needn't and must not be treated dogmatically. These tools are not part of reality. They are only imagined boxes, and we cannot expect to put the real world into them. Instead, it's useful to appreciate similarities between reality and imagined boxes.

I took the Myers-Briggs. I'm on the borderline between INTP and INTJ.

Lara 11-24-2014 03:34 PM

:hug: Donna. Very sorry to hear that your friend has lost her father.
She will understand that you can't be there for the funeral I'm sure.

Dmom3005 11-24-2014 09:40 PM

Thanks Lara

And yes she will.

donna :hug::grouphug:

Mari 11-25-2014 03:55 AM

Link to a Map of The Introvert's Heart
 
What are your favorite places here?

https://medium.com/i-love-charts/a-m...t-4db2d8c9cf48

Some of these are not exactly for Introverts -- there is a place or two for extroverts too.

My gosh, who likes the LAND OF SELF CHECKOUT LANES ? :eek:


I laughed about ALONE TIME LAKE
and RAILROAD OF CANCELLED PLANS :)

M

Hockey 11-25-2014 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1109698)
What are your favorite places here?

https://medium.com/i-love-charts/a-m...t-4db2d8c9cf48

Some of these are not exactly for Introverts -- there is a place or two for extroverts too.

My gosh, who likes the LAND OF SELF CHECKOUT LANES ? :eek:


I laughed about ALONE TIME LAKE
and RAILROAD OF CANCELLED PLANS :)

M

OMG, this "heart" is so me. (Except for the self-serve check out lines. I hate to do anything that might put somebody else out of work. So, I suffer through the regular line, pretending to be very engrossed in reading the tabloid headlines about UFOs, the botched plastic surgeries of celebrities I've never heard of and 30kg Chilean newborns.)

Land of Animal Pals (I'd never leave there), except maybe to sail on the Sea of Books to the museums.

Funnily enough, as an introvert, my injury has had an upside: people ignore the disabled. After a quick, "what the heck?" stare, they pretend I'm invisible. Sweet. :ROTFLMAO:

bizi 11-25-2014 09:38 AM

I used to feel really stupid at checkout lanes with fresh produce.(making people wait behind me) Now I know how to ring them in and it is a piece of cake. Except for when the disabled young man standing right behind me is waiting for my carry basket so he can put it away, then I am flustered. It seems that this is his only job there at our grocery store.
bizi
I usually pick what is the quickest way, it takes me along time to shop so I just want to hurry up and get out of there.

waves 11-25-2014 12:13 PM

This is great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1109698)
What are your favorite places here?

https://medium.com/i-love-charts/a-m...t-4db2d8c9cf48

Some of these are not exactly for Introverts -- there is a place or two for extroverts too.

My gosh, who likes the LAND OF SELF CHECKOUT LANES ? :eek:


I laughed about ALONE TIME LAKE
and RAILROAD OF CANCELLED PLANS :)

M


I spend a lot of time on the Internet Atoll.

I am a seasoned traveller of the Railroad of cancelled plans as well as the River of daydreams. :D

On the self checkout:-

I prefer it if the line is short and I have few groceries. I do worry about taking away people's jobs, but I kind of like not having to deal with anyone. The thing is, often something happens at the automatic checkout where the supervising cashier has to come and intervene -- that is almost more annoying than having a human cashier to start with, whom I can mostly ignore and deals with my stuff without my having to wait or call someone.

bizi 11-25-2014 11:40 PM

WE went to the grocery store 30 mins before closing to pick up our things for thanksgiving.
We are going to friends house and are bringing a pecan chew(kind of like a pie but chewy), spinach mashed potatoes. and cranberry sauce with mandarin oranges. we got to the line right at 10 and they closed the store opened up a new register and we quickly checked out and she was very cheerful.
But by this time my Raynauds is acting way up and I have 3 white and painful fingers. I had to go home and not touch anything else cold and run my fingers under hot water to thaw them out. It is in the forties and I was stupid and did not wear my mittens that I HAD with me!!!!!
sigh
bizi

Mari 11-27-2014 01:41 AM

do it yourself check out --no---TOO MUCH ANXIETY
 
Gad.

I only started in the line once or twice to do the do-it -yourself groceries but
I hade no intention to do the work. First of all too much technology is involved.
Secondly, I get no discount for this.I called the manager over to get someone to do my groceries.

===
It is a crappy business model that has failed.
A decade ago grocery stores hoped it would take off. No. :thud:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...kout-lines-fo/

…except Home Depot strongly encourages it (most other registers are closed) so I do not frequent their stores.

M

Mari 11-27-2014 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 1109750)
This is great.




I spend a lot of time on the Internet Atoll.

I am a seasoned traveller of the Railroad of cancelled plans as well as the River of daydreams. :D

On the self checkout:-

I prefer it if the line is short and I have few groceries. I do worry about taking away people's jobs, but I kind of like not having to deal with anyone. The thing is, often something happens at the automatic checkout where the supervising cashier has to come and intervene -- that is almost more annoying than having a human cashier to start with, whom I can mostly ignore and deals with my stuff without my having to wait or call someone.


I am hyper aware of other people's job every moment I am out in the world.
It is weird. We did not used to have this way of thinking.

M

Mari 11-27-2014 01:51 AM

Yes, It's Possible To Be Both An Introvert And An Extravert
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara (Post 1109332)
Waves, maybe you're an ambivert?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...ef=mostpopular
Quote:

Still, those who are able to draw from the strengths of both personality types -- the capacity for solitude,
focus and quiet self-reflection of an introvert, and the outgoing, friendly and approachable nature of of an extravert -- may have the advantage.


waves 11-27-2014 12:27 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...ef=mostpopular
Quote:

Still, those who are able to draw from the strengths of both personality types -- the capacity for solitude,
focus and quiet self-reflection of an introvert, and the outgoing, friendly and approachable nature of of an extravert -- may have the advantage.


This is interesting, because it brings up the aspect of choice, whether one can choose to be "introverted" or "extraverted" any or all of the time. This had occurred to me with the ambivert terminology as well.

An ambidextrous person can do most things with either hand -- they can choose which hand to use. Can an ambivert choose which way to be? Can they turn off the need for social support, or turn off the feeling of social erosion after overexposure? Defined by ability, then an ambivert has the gifts of both the introvert and the extrovert, however, defined by need, the ambivert also has the needs of both, not necessarily at convenient times.

I can't choose. I swing between elements of both, at intervals. And I don't have to be having mood swings although that will do it as well. My needs are sometimes of one and sometimes of the other, and I behave accordingingly. I do not "choose" which to be... I cannot draw upon some special capacity to use my "other hand" the way the ambidextrous person can.

Maybe I am an intervert? In between? That is probably where most people are, but many are more strongly outgoing and others more withdrawn. I oscillate or anyway shift between being introverted and extraverted. I guess I am a locovert. :D

Internet solves some problems for me as it does for many others I think. One can have a distant sort of social contact that protects from many of the difficulties of human contact.

waves

Mari 11-28-2014 12:26 AM

The best jobs for every personality type:
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/best-...onality-2014-9

The Best Jobs for Every Personality Type
** Copyright © 2014 Business Insider Inc. All rights reserved.*

===================
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http://www.humanmetrics.com/hr/JTypesResult.aspx

I am INFJ Introvert (50%) ]Intuitive (19%), Feeling (6%), Judging (1%)
But I suspect that I am as much Perceiving as I am Judging and could have gone differently on that one on any given day.

M

bizi 11-28-2014 01:06 AM

ISTJ
interesting!

One test somewhere else....I was the inspector.
bizi

waves 11-28-2014 03:07 AM

ENFP but E was dubiously close to middle -- counselor said I am an E/I-NFP.

Mari 11-29-2014 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 1110139)
ENFP but E was dubiously close to middle -- counselor said I am an E/I-NFP.

You have strengths in both. That is helpful.

Mari

waves 11-29-2014 10:51 PM

Strengths and weaknesses, both. More than being advantageous or disadvantageous, I believe having both just makes for a mixed experience.

It also makes it impossible to answer "do you usually...?" type questions directed at introvert/extravert tendencies. I don't usually anything. It depends. On what? Ask me at that moment and I'll tell you what on.

Mari 11-30-2014 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 1110438)
Strengths and weaknesses, both. More than being advantageous or disadvantageous, I believe having both just makes for a mixed experience.

It also makes it impossible to answer "do you usually...?" type questions directed at introvert/extravert tendencies. I don't usually anything. It depends. On what? Ask me at that moment and I'll tell you what on.

Right. You know yourself and you know yourself in the moment but for an overall picture, those thing are going to go one way sometimes and one way some other times.

These personality types do not have hugely good science behind them. THey
are a fun way to see ourselves -- usually the way we already see ourselves.
It does give us something to work with sometimes.
Like I can remind myself that I am in Introvert and therefore I can cut myself some slack when a situation comes up.
Either I will stay home (so to speak) or go and give myself allowance to sit in the back, show up late, not be chatty, leave the moment I want to leave, and so on.


M

waves 11-30-2014 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1110452)
These personality types do not have hugely good science behind them. THey

I believe the Myers-Briggs is based on Jung's model.... a theory not proven and indeed possibly not provable or disprovable (by definition unscientific).

Quote:

are a fun way to see ourselves -- usually the way we already see ourselves.
It does give us something to work with sometimes.
I find the Myers-Briggs' types useful as abstract points of reference. All of us can relate to the concepts in some way even if no person is exactly one type. Think of Plato's forms.

The terms we have for these concepts further provide a communication currency so we can tell each other how we experience ourselves and the world.


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