Curious now about anti fungal therapy
 

Has anyone had to go on an anti fungal and noticed an improvement in their symptoms?

I know there are many doctors that believe that certain microbes are the trigger for MS and many nerve disorders and I find it very interesting.
I asked my neuro if he would prescribe an anti fungal since I have recently been diagnosed with asthma all of a sudden- it kind of would be worth a try I thought. He said he does not prescribe antifungals, and that flagyl has cause some cases of neuropathy.

I saw my rheumatologist and she said that not knowing what fungus to target, she won't prescribe one either. So I am at a loss here. It is a possibility, but NONE of them care about finding the cause. I can't believe I can have buckets full of nerve drugs or steroids with hundreds of side effects but no one will try me on a few antifungals??

Why hasn't anyone ran any tests for fungal infections?

I am almost ready to call the lyme dr. back because he had mentioned putting me on one. It will just cost me a lot!

Did you check out your car? Air blowing thru the vents right onto you can be highly allergenic.

The asthma suggests you are inhaling something...and the car cabin filter may harbor lots of mold, and pollen.

Allergy testing for mold and pollen may reveal something for you.

That was a great idea. I know how mildewy those old car vents can get. My car was a 2 year lease on a brand new car and we just turned it in and got another new one.


I have allergy testing set up for the end of the month.
Can severe allergies cause neuropathy though? And for my kids to have this sudden photosensitivity? It is just so strange.

I don't have much faith in allergy testing, but I'll give it a try. I had it done years ago because I kept getting a poison ivy like rash on my face. I was perfectly fine otherwise. She told me I was allergic to all kinds of pollens, and carrots of all things. No help at all. I wasn't even eating carrots at the time.

:Talkative:
I had to figure it out myself and it turned out to be the massive amounts of mangoes I was eating.....
Mango contains urushiol which is the same oil as poison ivy (which I am severely allergic to)
I figured it out a few weeks later when I thought "what am I doing differently?"
I googled mangos/ itchy rash and sure enough there were hundreds of sources.
I didn't come up allergic to mangoes on the skin test. That is why I don't know how valid they are. Maybe the test have improved since 8 years ago.

There are cross sensitivities from pollen to foods. There are lists on the net for this.
http://www.foodallergens.info/Facts/...ich_Foods.html

The treatments for systemic fungal infections are harsh and toxic.
They usually are used for people with impaired immune functions, either due to chemo treatments or HIV.

However, you can do a GI antifungal treatment yourself. One of the good anti-Candida treatments is by NOW called Candida Support.

I also find Olive leaf extract helpful for my sinus issues. There is some olive leaf in the NOW product but it also has caprylic acid which kills Candida living in the GI tract and mouth.

August is when ragweed starts up. Learn what the plant looks like and pull it out when you find it around your home (don't disturb the head and dump in a plastic trash bag). We remove it from our entire street, since we live in a small woods.
If you get worse on really windy days, think "allergies".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragweed

Goldenrod blooms around now too...but it is not an airborne pollen so you should leave it in place as it feeds many birds.

Mold/mildew
 

Hi Healthgirl,

You may want to check for any water leaks in your home.
These can occur under sinks and behind walls and not be readily apparent for awhile. Also check walls/floors behind/under toilets, as tank sweating can cause moisture/mold issues in some homes.
Look around very closely for any signs.

We clean both the air conditioners in our vehicles and our in home A/C units.
We take them apart and clean them the same way many commercial garages clean A/C units in cars. (We set them up in the garage and air them out for a couple of days after having cleaned them.)

Do you use home A/C? If so, have you checked for mold?

Just a thought.

Oh! wanted to share with you. We find "specialty" allergy/mold products here: https://www.natlallergy.com/
( I have dealt with this company for over 20 years now.)

:hug:
DejaVu

Anti fungals
 

Have a look at the Website for Know the Cause. He believes fungus in the body causes lots of problems. There is a diet and tv show by this name too. He recommends other things to take as well if can't use the anti-fungals but I don't remember any of them offhand.

No, it is not because of your infection. A breakthrough study is suggesting miconazole and clobetasol regenerates nerves in mic who is paralyze and can't walk. They are considering using that for ms patient.

At original poster, which anti fungi all were u using? And is it in tablet?

Hi everybody, I just had to chime in. If this has been discussed before, forgive me for chiming in but something came to light last week and it literally changed my life overnight.

I have been on Lisinopril for over 40 years. It's the only blood pressure med I take. I also have post nasal drip for quite a few years. Who remembers? I am so used to blowing my nose after I have my morning coffee and clearing my throat I never thought about this.

Two weeks ago I began clearing my throat (it had more mucus than usual) and tried blowing my nose. I did not have a cold, (I never get them because I make my own colloidal silver and taking two tablespoons a day for years). It seems that nothing can live in silver so for me, so far so good. I don't get colds, flues, infections, whatever. Been lucky in that department.

But this darn post nasal drip was driving me crazy. I was seen by my doctor years ago and he looked down my throat and announced "yup, you have a lot of mucus there' and he gave me some kind of med (can't remember) but I stopped taking it and never thought much about it.

Till about 2 weeks ago when, for whatever reason, it could have been I was exposed to something or pollen (I had rose fever as a kid and had hot stuff squirted up my nose by a doctor) that was NOT fun. I remember it and I was about 5 years old.

Anyway I'm sitting in Dunkin Donuts with my friends and I happened to mention "I have this stupid post nasal drip and for whatever reason, it's driving me crazy and I'm always clearing my throat, and I'm tired of having a sore throat". The lady next to me said "are you on either Enalopril or Lisinopril?' I looked at her and said "I've been on Lisinopril since I was 26 years old. Either the brand name or generic". She said"That's what is giving you the post nasal drip"

I did not believe her. I went home, went on my computer and brother, did I get an education. Just google Lisinopril and Post Nasal Drip.

And what's the treatment that works? A Neti Pot (thank god I had one in my house). I had the little saline packets that come with the Neti Pot.

I used this little gadget twice that day and twice the next day, blew my nose and that was it.

Gone, finito, God Bless. Last night I bought this lady a nice ice cream at Dunkin and said to her 'you saved me". We all laughed.

See? What goes around, comes around. Or however the saying goes.

I had no clue about Lisinopril and post nasal drip.

Haven't had to clear my throat since I used the Neti Pot and THAT is a miracle.

Just wanted to share.

Melody

Mel, Lisinopril almost killed me. You should discuss with your doctor changing to another blood pressure drug.

The way lisinopril works is that a chemical called bradykinin builds up in the body, and dilates blood vessels. In some people this cannot be metabolized away quickly enough and it results in
tissue swelling and loss of functions. Lisinopril also is excreted whole and not metabolized by the liver, so it can cause inflammation of the lining of the bladder even.

Your sinus problems suggest inflammation there, and this can occur in the throat and lungs too. If you have a sudden insult to your throat or lungs (a virus) you can close up and choke to death.

Consider this your body warning you that you cannot tolerate this drug anymore, and get switched off all ACE inhibitors and ARB (ACE receptor blockers)...Just dealing with the symptom is not changing what lisinopril is doing all over your body.

Mrs. D. What's a good alternative?

Thanks much

Melody

Mel, are you just a borderline blood pressure person?

Or are you high?

What dose did you use for the lisinopril?

What have you used in the past?

Okay, here is how it started. I was 26 years old, severely overweight, had high blood pressure and they gave me vasotec (or something like that) it's generic version was one of the prils. I've been on this since then. My dosage was changed when I went to the Cornell ACCORD program because they think a reading of 100/59 was PERFECT. I thought I was dying but I felt fine and the doctor comes in with a thumbs up and says 'that is what blood pressure is supposed to be'. At the time I was on 40 of the Lisinopril (which they provided along with all meds because I was in a protocol concerning diabetic women). For whatever reason that I can't remember, I went down to 20 mgs (which I am on since then) and that's been since 2007.

Whenever I go see Dr. Fred and he takes my blood pressure it's fine (because if you saw my doctor you would know why it's fine), rofl.

Anyway, I don't have any high blood pressure symptoms and they told me at Cornell that the Lisinopril protects kidneys in diabetics. But now I read all these scary stuff about Lisinopril and then you say it almost killed you and I have all this metoprolol in the house (because Alan can't take blood pressure meds any more because of what happened with the Flomax and his pressure is perfectly fine). They had put him on the metoprolol way back when he got the stent. He has NEVER had any high blood pressure in his life.

And I would never take any other med until I went in to see Dr. Fred, tell him about my concerns and I have no idea what he might say.

I wonder, if after all these years of taking blood pressure meds, one can go off?" I'm a neurotic person (I admit this). Lots of pressure on me, lots of stress. I don't take anything else other than a sleeping aid to relax but during the day it's just my B-12 and my cranberry pill, and my Lisinopril.

what do you think my doctor will do? Do you think he might say "You can take the metoprolol tartrate 25 mg that I used to prescribe for Alan".

I'm just picking your brain. Thanks much

Melody
P.S. does blood pressure have anything to do with the mild increase in velocity that they are talking about (re: my right leg)? Thanks much

This is something you have to do with your doctor.

If you have a blood pressure cuff at home, start now, taking several readings a day and keeping them in a journal.

I did this for over a month, when I was taken off the lisinopril.

And yes with your weight loss and good diet, you may be able to come off. I went down from 3 different drugs a day to just one small dose of beta blocker. But helping me do this was the magnesium lotion. Magnesium dilates blood vessels that are contracted, so it lowers high blood pressure for some people.

Start taking your pressures daily. One in the morning before breakfast and one 2 hrs after. Around early afternoon, and after supper, and before bedtime. See what you get while still taking the lisinopril. Then if you see very good or lower than average pressures, reduce by 1/2 what you take now. See what happens in 7-10 days...noting any changes in your log. If you see the same pressures on 1/2 dose, then make an appointment to see your doctor to get off the lisinopril entirely.

Doctors can make decisions quicker and better if you supply the data. It might be that you will no longer need any medication, or you may need a small bit, like I am doing now. It may be that the magnesium lotion alone can stabilize your pressure without drugs.

The benefits of a low beta blocker are that these drugs, can
lower anxiety levels as well and help you deal with stress.
But I would not use Alan's medication until you share your journal log of your daily home pressures with your doctor.

This is not something you can or should do by yourself.

I strongly urge you to apply the Morton Epsom lotion to your knees at night, to help with improving blood flow there and below them. If you start now, any improvements may show up on your Sept further testing. Use a small bit only on each knee along the sides and in back. I also apply just below the knee in front.

The lotion is on Amazon and at WalMart and Walgreen's. But still not sold everywhere yet.

Hi.

I am soaking my feet in epsom salt right now. I will buy the epsom lotion as soon as I finish this post. Took my pressure with the cuff. 149/71. Pulse was 71. So I'm not dying, thank god for that.

Now, until I get the epsom lotion, can I make a paste using the epsom salt and some cream and rub it on my knees and behind?

Would that help get the magnesium into my knees?

And I will start taking my pressure 3 times a day and keeping a log.

What would I do without you, I have no idea.

Love you

Melody

Mrs. D. Is this what you mean?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morton-Unsce...item4aed95ca61

There are so many various kinds of magnesium lotion. Just want to make sure which brand is the best.

Thanks much

Melody

Yes,, that is it.... but that Ebay price is a bit high.

It is 5.97 at Walmart, and maybe 2 dollars more at Walgreen's.

Amazon has it for 5.97 or thereabouts too.

I think it is miraculous stuff.

You can try making a strong solution of epsom salts, in a small pan like your foot pan, and soak a thin cotton cloth, like a face cloth or a tea towel, in it and then put that on your knees. I did that upNorth one summer when I had my knee pain, and it did work. It is just messy and a hassle. I did it outside.

The lotion seems to facilitate the magnesium into the body as opposed to soaking in water etc. The skin has limits to how much it will allow to be absorbed. But this lotion is swift acting and very different to me than soaking in water.

Thanks, will buy it and til I get it, I'll make a paste and put it on my knees.
Now if THEY get better, now THAT would really be something. lol

Mel

Hi.

I went to a different seller (after calling my local Walgreens and other places that don't carry this item). I knew I had to get it online.

I got two tubes for $19.99 with free shipping. considering that I will be using this for quite some time, I had to go for it. Do I put this on
Alan's feet also and will it do anything for his neuropathy??:


Thanks so much

Melody

Don't apply to bottoms of the feet. It won't work there.
Just the tops and up the ankle. This will reduce some pain, improve circulation, and stop any cramping episodes.

Don't use too much...it is very powerful. A quarter's diameter total per day, which you can divide in half and rub each half into each foot.

An 8 oz bottle lasts a long time when used this way.

Walgreen's should be able to order this for you:
http://www.walgreens.com/search/resu...n+Epsom+lotion

Some stores don't even know that they have it...as they won't look for you. It is kept with the first aid things, epsom salts and rubbing alcohol etc.

Hi Mrs. D.

Use a little and it goes a long way. Got It!!!

If this works, when I'm about to run out, I'll ask Walgreens if they can order it for me. The guy said "We don't have it in this store but they have it on 13th Avenue'. Now why didn't the guy say "I can order it for you".

I'll ask them when I go there next time.

And no putting on bottom of feet, got that too.

lol

Love ya, Melody

Hi Mrs. D.

Been using the lotion for three days night. I put a small amount on each knee and behind the knee, and I put a small amount on the top of my feet and ankles. The bottle says to USE GENEROUSLY. But you said it's strong and to use a little so I listen to you.

I just got the report back from my Bilateral Lower Extremity Arterial Doppler. Since I don't know where to put the report I'm going to start a new thread, post what the report says and ask my questions. If it needs to be moved to a different forum, they will let me know.

And thanks so much for the info on the Empsom Lotion. I haven't had any spasms since I've been using it. You're a doll

Melody

Well, generously is a vague term for me. I know how this stuff works and it really lowers my blood pressures, with just small amounts. Since they don't say what the concentration of it is, I tend to be conservative about it. The small size of the bottle, and heaviness of it suggests a very concentrated product, to me.

It will open up your arteries too...and increase the circulation in your legs.

I bet many people over 60 (and some much younger) have small impairments in their legs. I knew a 45 yr old woman who worked with me occasionally who smoked and had terrible PAD... she had severe pain all the time with the slightest effort walking and had to have surgery for it.

Try and keep your fat consumption fairly low. You don't have to avoid them, but a very high fat meal will make the blood thicker and harder to move around. Studies on normal people showed that very high fat consumption (fried foods, ice cream etc), thickened the blood for up to 12 hours after. Ask your doctor about the baby aspirin, and if that is safe for you to use too.
Stay well hydrated also so the blood does not get too thick. If your triglycerides are elevated, take fish oil and bring them down.

Hi.

I'm a sprouter, not a meat eater, and never a red meat eater. I do have the occasional ice cream, but after this, forget it. I shall do everything you said

Thank you so much.

Oh I never read the bottle. It says SHAKE BEFORE USING. It's 8 oz.

lol

Melody

did you find any good information linking fungus and neuropathy? I have a fungus infection on my toenail which has been resistant to OTC treatments.( BTW I got this toenail fungus while on prednisone-) I asked my Dr for a Rx for it and he called in terbinfine (lamisil ) which is in pill form for me to take for 12 weeks.
I have not started it yet, just got it today. It comes with quite a list of side effects.
I had just ignored the toenail fungus for years, because I never wear sandals anyway---with this neuropathy, they would fall off my feet.
Your post interested me to reading a little more on the fungus, Ive learned that fungus on the toenail, means there could be fungus internally.
Just thinking, if you have any nail fungus or ringworm you could call your Dr. and request an anti fungal for that and see how your body responds.
I think the anti-fungal tx for lyme is quite extensive. and...this was inexpensive--ten dollars for a 12 week supply.

Hi Mrs. D. Just wanted to update you and everyone on Alan. He had the TURP. Spent two days in the hospital. Came home with a foley which comes out next Wednesday. So far so good.

I bought a blonde wig and re-invented myself (or I would go nuts). lol

Love ya, And I LOVE this lotion.

Melody