Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 1189314)

Do you have the written report for your spine?
Some of your symptoms can be from the spine if the nerve is impinged.
Or did the spine dr? say symptoms not related?

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/pi...pictureid=5102

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 1189314)

Do you have the written report for your spine?
Some of your symptoms can be from the spine if the nerve is impinged.
Or did the spine dr? say symptoms not related?

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/pi...pictureid=5102

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 1189362)

I found it doing a search for spine chart dermatomes. I believe most are chiropractic based.
here is a results page of them -
https://www.google.com/search?q=spin...w=1360&bih=624


If you have mostly mild spine issues, soft tissue can cause quite a bit of pain/symptoms.
triggerpoints can cause referred pain /symptoms
muscle imbalances or slight misalignments could be an issue also
even poor posture can create problems

If you haven't been assessed by highly qualified PT/ chiropractor, I would ask your MD for referral or seek one out yourself, just to have a better idea if some sx might be treatable with proper therapy.

Originally Posted by Hwatt47 (Post 1189324)

I had the MRI on my lower spine done at the end of 2014 that's when they discovered the damage on my spine ,had pain injection in spine in january,,came of all my medication as didn't feel they were working and that's when I felt the sensations in my feet ,so went back to doctors ,so had another MRI of my brain and top of neck 2 weeks ago but still waiting results ,just wanting know if what I am feeling in my bladder is connected.

Originally Posted by Hwatt47 (Post 1189324)

I have seen slipped disc,and a displaced vertabre in the base of my spine ,,I was diagnosed by a neurologist with peripheral neuropathy,I have the cold,wet,numb,pins and needles in my feet ,more recently my knees are in agony and my legs feel like they won't support me,I also have the awful sensation of wetting myself ,I haven't I may add ,but it feels like I am constantly weeing, I went to the doctors the other day and she didn't seem to listen to me Said it was all in my head and gave me antidepressants,,I am now panicking going out or to work ,is there anyone else experiencing this type of symptom..

Originally Posted by Hwatt47 (Post 1189324)

I had the MRI on my lower spine done at the end of 2014 that's when they discovered the damage on my spine ,had pain injection in spine in january,,came of all my medication as didn't feel they were working and that's when I felt the sensations in my feet ,so went back to doctors ,so had another MRI of my brain and top of neck 2 weeks ago but still waiting results ,just wanting know if what I am feeling in my bladder is connected.

Originally Posted by DavidHC (Post 1189356)

I've been led to think that mechanical issues in the cervical spine can't cause symptoms in the head and face - I have numbness, tingling, twitching and electrical current feelings on my face and head - but it seems like your image is claiming the contrary, at least with respect to certain symptoms. My MRI showed no signal change, but in two places there was mild cervical spine compression. Thanks.

Originally Posted by stillHoping (Post 1189375)

Hi, too many doctors doesn’t listen and this is very frustrating..
Have you done EMG or skin biopsy that confirms peripheral neuropathy ?



Small fiber neuropathy (SFN) is a type of peripheral neuropathy that can be diagnosed by a skin biopsy. SFN can affect the sensory fibers and cause the sensory symptoms in the legs, and it can also affect the fibers of the autonomic nervous system (ANS) which controls the bladder.
I don't know whether the nerves that receive the sensation from the bladder can be affected by SFN.

The autonomic nervous fibers that controls the bladder path from the brain through the spinal cord and exits from the lower part of the spine. So another option might be that any damage along this path can affect the bladder.



Problems in the spine might affect the head. The sympathetic innervation of the head path through the spinal cord, so such problems affect sweating in the head, tears, saliva, constriction of blood vessels, pupils, etc.
Your facial sensory symptoms might be attributed to the trigeminal nerve. I’m not sure, as far as I remember the lower part of the trigeminal nerve is located in the upper cervical spine.
Do you feel these symptoms on one side of the face ? or is it symmetric ?
The trigeminal nerve has 3 branches.
When I had trigeminal neuralgia I felt the pain and other weird sensation only on one side of the face and the exact borders of each of these branches.

Originally Posted by DavidHC (Post 1189405)

Well, it's all over really, not just on one side. Nose, ears, top of head, back, tongue, lips, etc. Tingling, numbness, electric currents.
I'm not sure whether it's a mechanical issue for me, or whether there is some overlap, because we do have the skin biopsy and know that I have SFN.

Originally Posted by DavidHC (Post 1189405)

The physicians seemed adamant that the cervical spine issues, mostly beginning at C2-3 but primarily lower down, could not be causing my mouth dryness, or all the other symptoms I know above.

Originally Posted by DavidHC (Post 1189405)

What were your symptoms for trigeminal neuralgia like? I hope they've resolved. How are they now?

Originally Posted by stillHoping (Post 1189438)

If it is on both sides I think it is less likely that it is caused by mecahnical damage, since the cranial nerves innervates only one side of the head.


The cervical issues could affect the production of saliva and tears (the sympathetic pathways), but I doubt it is causing your sensory symptoms.
I guess it is more likely that dryness would be caused by over productive sympathetic system or week parasympathetic, or some type of inflammation in the glands, then from a mechanical damage in the cervical spine.

I took some neuroanatomy courses but I am not a physician, so....


I had the trigeminal neuralgia many years ago, luckily it gradually improved and disappered within a few months. I had severe pain attacks on the right side of my face, it felt like all the teeth at that side ache, the ear and the right side of the throat ached like having an infection, the right eye, temple, scalp....
There were many pain attacks each day and touching the area, wind, swollowing food etc were triggers.
Since then sometimes I still feel symptoms in the head like yours, tingling, electric shock, numbness, it comes and goes, but usuallly it is only on one side of the face.
It is pretty wierd to feel the distinct borders... half nose is tingling.... electric shock/reduced sensation only on the upper right lip when putting a moisturizing cream... electric shock when touching the right eye brow but not the left... sensitivity on one side of the scalp when combing my hair...

I don't feel these distinct borders with the numbness, tingling, burning etc in the rest of the body that were caused by the SFN

Originally Posted by panther (Post 1190656)

what were your values with skin biopsy if i may ask