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Aarcyn 03-02-2017 05:59 PM

CBD gummies
 
I don't post here often but this is something I want to share since it is such a positive medicine for me.

I have very disruptive muscle spasms that jerk my right leg in a jolt every 20 seconds and have become painful.

The spasm usually begins in the late afternoon through the evening. If I get up and "move around," they may abate for a while but sometimes nothing will stop the movement.

When I lay in bed to read and sleep, lots of spasms. If the spasm does stop and I fall asleep, the spasm will wake me anywhere from 1 AM to 3 AM and continue every 20 seconds for hours on end.

I take baclofen and it sorta kinda works. Better than left untreated.

In California marijuana is legal so I will smoke and it will relax the spasm but since the effect of pot lasts for about 1/2 hour, the spasm will often return.

Enter CBD gummies. My marijuana representive comes to my apartment whenever I need to replenish either my bud or vape pen supply.

Last time he left samples of an edible CBD gummy for me to try. I ate two and had the best night of sleep in over six years. It could have been a coincidence. Second night, same experience. Third night, no gummies and a typical spasm night. Fourth night, two gummies and restful sleep through the night. Night six, I tried one gummy, not as restful.

So now I take two gummies per night and I have uninterrupted sleep.

If you live in a state where marijuana is legal, you can PM me and will share the website. The company sells HBD water so I may do two things at once...stay hydrated and quell the spasm beast.

Oh and a side note on CBD gummies. No THC so no high effect. When I experimented with the gummies during the day, no high. Totally unpopular with anyone looking for a buzz.

Kitty 03-07-2017 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Aarcyn (Post 1237825)
I have very disruptive muscle spasms that jerk my right leg in a jolt every 20 seconds and have become painful.

The spasm usually begins in the late afternoon through the evening. If I get up and "move around," they may abate for a while but sometimes nothing will stop the movement.

When I lay in bed to read and sleep, lots of spasms. If the spasm does stop and I fall asleep, the spasm will wake me anywhere from 1 AM to 3 AM and continue every 20 seconds for hours on end.

I take baclofen and it sorta kinda works. Better than left untreated.

Hi Cyn!

I could have written that description of leg spasms. I get them every single night especially in my left leg. It's maddening.

Last night was no different. Now my leg feels like I did the leg press machine that I used to do at the gym! Too bad the end results aren't the same.

I'm glad you found such a great product that actually works! Baclofen just doesn't cut it when the spasms get really bad.

Cannabis oil is now legal in GA if you can get a physician to prescribe it. I wonder if the gummies would be covered, too? I would LOVE to try them.

Thanks for sharing this......it could potentially help lots of MSers who suffer with these spasms. :hug:

Aarcyn 03-07-2017 02:37 PM

Hi sweet Kitty!

Marijuana is often made out to be a panacea. However studies show that cannabis is effective for nausea with cancer patients and large motor spasms connected with multiple sclerosis and Parkinson's disease.

On the web I have often seen videos of children using a CBD product. The most recent was an autistic girl who pummeled herself uncontrollably. The parents would hold her down and use a breathing mask with marijuana smoke to calm the urge of brutal self harm.

I can relate to self harm because my spasms are not only disruptive of my sleep but the spasm creates muscle fatigue and pain.

I just hope anyone who fears marijuana may look at it in a new light.

mrsD 03-07-2017 03:34 PM

Could you please tell us how many milligrams in each gummie you need to get results?

Aarcyn 03-07-2017 05:36 PM

10 mg "nano amplified " CBD per gummy.

The instructions on the label say one gummy per day.

Does not contain yeast, wheat, dairy, eggs, or peanuts. No artificial flavors or preservatives.

No doubt about it, it is more expensive than baclofen. And baclofen is a hit or miss to relieve my spasms. It also relaxes my bladder spasms during the night. Expensive, yes but my sleep is precious to me and this is the first drug that actually adds to my quality of life.

I think it can be purchased and mailed across state lines since it has no THC in the product.

Starznight 03-07-2017 10:30 PM

I didn't realize they had legalized cannabis oil in ga. I know from a youthful experience that I am allergic to marijuana, but no way of knowing what in it is the issue. But seeing as I'm going to pain management once I find one that accepts my insurance i just might ask about the oil or gummies before jumping to the surgical route.

Aarcyn 03-08-2017 03:13 PM

Also.

The next time my marijuana representative comes, I plan to try a CBD cartridge for my vape pen. Plus, a vape pen is more cost effective. $50 for over 100+ draws and no high. Like taking aspirin.

What a treat it would be to have a medical "as needed" treatment that would allow me to sit with my feet up while watching tv. My spasms do not let me relax in this manner.

And...this CBD company needs to pay me (preferably in gummies!) for this thread! 😄

Frog42 03-08-2017 05:15 PM

I ordered the gummies today. I hope they help.

Aarcyn 03-08-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frog42 (Post 1238212)
I ordered the gummies today. I hope they help.

Did you get them from Living Water?

Frog42 03-10-2017 08:12 PM

No, Green Roads World. I admit, it was because they look like frogs. We'll see when they get here if they're worth it.

bddouglas 03-10-2017 09:47 PM

CBD oil is legal in all 50 states, as long as there is no THC content. I purchase my CBD oil from a vape store and use it at night and on long rides to help with spasms and pain in general. It does has an earthy taste. I may have to check into the gummies.

Starznight 03-11-2017 10:39 PM

Did you get it from a vape store in town or online? If it was in town, I might have to drag my dad out on Monday to go pick some up... he could probably use some after having his stroke he has full use of his left side but a lot of stiffness and spasisty that hasn't gone away and interrupts his stride. Granted he'd probably be happy now that he's fully retired to smoke the real stuff and get his high on :p, but he's not willing to deal with the cold and moving to Colorado. So if he can legally get the benefits of the Cbd that would be great. And better still if I prove to be allergic I can pass along to him whatever I don't use. ;)

snowy 03-12-2017 01:47 PM

I don't have MS, but as I was scanning down the list of posts the title "CBD gummies" caught my eye. After reading the posts, I decided I should add my two cents.

I suffer from radicular nerve pain owing to impingement of several spinal nerves, and a badly degenerated spine. I experience paresthesias (ranging from an ever-present buzz, through tingling, pins and needles, to numbness). I also was experiencing electric shock type pain in my arm and hands, and intermittent spasms that were bad enough to make me stop driving.

I've done a lot of PT, and continue to do cervical traction at home with a Saunders machine. I take nortriptyline daily which helps some, and I have tramadol for breakthrough pain. About 5 mos ago I finally decided to experiment with some marijuana products to see if I might get some more relief.

I live in Colorado, where both med & recreational MJ are legal, so availability and legality are not a problem.

First I tried CBD oil -- no THC -- since I was not interested in getting high. Almost immediately I began to sleep thru the night without waking with a spasm. Then I read in several places that having a little THC in the mix actually can enhance the action of the CBD. Apparently it works, biologically, like a cofactor.

Anyway, I now microdose several times a day (every2-3 hrs) with drops of a tincture that has a mix of CBD & THC in about a 2:1 ratio. At night, before bed, I take a tincture that has more THC because it relaxes me (still without what I would call a "high" -- more like a pleasantly warm somatic feeling, similar to what you might feel from a single glass of wine).

Result: I sleep through the night, I don't get those debilitating spasms, haven't had one of those electric shock zaps in months. Recently I was even able to resume playing my guitar, which I had been unable to do for the past year or so because the required hand/arm posture would trigger spasms. :)

I haven't tried the gummies, but I do have some lozenges that I use if I plan to be away from home for several hours. I prefer the drops, but the lozenges are more convenient to carry with me than an open bottle of drops. I have not smoked or vaped.

In sum, I have enjoyed considerable relief since I began using the CBD products. One good indicator is that I have not had to take any tramadol at all in recent months.

Definitely worth a try if you live someplace where you can get these products readily.

Aarcyn 03-13-2017 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by snowy (Post 1238591)
I don't have MS, but as I was scanning down the list of posts the title "CBD gummies" caught my eye. After reading the posts, I decided I should add my two cents.

I live in Colorado, where both med & recreational MJ are legal, so availability and legality are not a problem.

Result: I sleep through the night, I don't get those debilitating spasms, haven't had one of those electric shock zaps in months. Recently I was even able to resume playing my guitar, which I had been unable to do for the past year or so because the required hand/arm posture would trigger spasms. :)

I haven't tried the gummies, but I do have some lozenges that I use if I plan to be away from home for several hours. I prefer the drops, but the lozenges are more convenient to carry with me than an open bottle of drops. I have not smoked or vaped.

In sum, I have enjoyed considerable relief since I began using the CBD products. One good indicator is that I have not had to take any tramadol at all in recent months.

Definitely worth a try if you live someplace where you can get these products readily.

What I have learned is that if one uses a CBD product without THC, it can be purchased online. So the gummies I use can be ordered in any state. I recommend this company only because this gummy works. Not perfectly but it works. And because it is legal, I am also including the cost in the medical portion of my taxes as medication.

Aarcyn 03-22-2017 02:17 PM

Cost breakdown. $1.33 per gummy.

Since I take two gummies per night, I spend $2.66 per day to be able to sleep.

What would you give up for this? So many food items can be easily sacrificed on the concept of healthy idea of sleep...IMO

bddouglas 03-23-2017 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Starznight (Post 1238558)
Did you get it from a vape store in town or online? If it was in town, I might have to drag my dad out on Monday to go pick some up... he could probably use some after having his stroke he has full use of his left side but a lot of stiffness and spasisty that hasn't gone away and interrupts his stride. Granted he'd probably be happy now that he's fully retired to smoke the real stuff and get his high on :p, but he's not willing to deal with the cold and moving to Colorado. So if he can legally get the benefits of the Cbd that would be great. And better still if I prove to be allergic I can pass along to him whatever I don't use. ;)


You can not purchase it in Camden County, the vape stores in Camden would be blackballed by the base. You would have to go to Brunswick. I purchased mine at Smoker's Wanted Vape Shop off exit 38.

Aarcyn 03-23-2017 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bddouglas (Post 1239307)
You can not purchase it in Camden County, the vape stores in Camden would be blackballed by the base. You would have to go to Brunswick. I purchased mine at Smoker's Wanted Vape Shop off exit 38.

To be clear and not let this thread go sideways, the CBD gummies are available through the Internet. Since it contains no THC, it is legal.

And this thread relates to MS spasms NOT spasticity or stiffness.

The question in my mind is whether my results can be duplicated by someone with the same symptom as originally outlined by me.

Kitty 03-23-2017 07:09 PM

I received my bottle of gummies and the CBD water today. I'm hoping the gummies will settle the spasms in my legs down. Anyone else who purchases these please report your success or lack thereof here on this thread. I'm optimistic! :)

Debbie D 03-28-2017 08:08 AM

some are quite strong, though...I'm hypersensitive so I would have to be careful.
When is MJ going to become legal??? Opioids are so addictive and they're given out like candy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aarcyn (Post 1237825)
I don't post here often but this is something I want to share since it is such a positive medicine for me.

I have very disruptive muscle spasms that jerk my right leg in a jolt every 20 seconds and have become painful.

The spasm usually begins in the late afternoon through the evening. If I get up and "move around," they may abate for a while but sometimes nothing will stop the movement.

When I lay in bed to read and sleep, lots of spasms. If the spasm does stop and I fall asleep, the spasm will wake me anywhere from 1 AM to 3 AM and continue every 20 seconds for hours on end.

I take baclofen and it sorta kinda works. Better than left untreated.

In California marijuana is legal so I will smoke and it will relax the spasm but since the effect of pot lasts for about 1/2 hour, the spasm will often return.

Enter CBD gummies. My marijuana representive comes to my apartment whenever I need to replenish either my bud or vape pen supply.

Last time he left samples of an edible CBD gummy for me to try. I ate two and had the best night of sleep in over six years. It could have been a coincidence. Second night, same experience. Third night, no gummies and a typical spasm night. Fourth night, two gummies and restful sleep through the night. Night six, I tried one gummy, not as restful.

So now I take two gummies per night and I have uninterrupted sleep.

If you live in a state where marijuana is legal, you can PM me and will share the website. The company sells HBD water so I may do two things at once...stay hydrated and quell the spasm beast.

Oh and a side note on CBD gummies. No THC so no high effect. When I experimented with the gummies during the day, no high. Totally unpopular with anyone looking for a buzz.


Kitty 03-28-2017 02:23 PM

Well, I took the gummies and have been drinking the water but have not noticed any difference in the way I feel or my spasm symptoms. :(

I hate to give up but don't know how long to try. :Dunno:

snowy 03-30-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitty (Post 1239708)
Well, I took the gummies and have been drinking the water but have not noticed any difference in the way I feel or my spasm symptoms. :(

I hate to give up but don't know how long to try. :Dunno:

I take drops of a tincture, not gummies (see my earlier post in this thread), but as I recall, I didn't notice any change until I'd been taking it for at least 10 days, maybe 2 weeks. First noticeable change was that I could sleep through the night without waking up with spasms. I'd have been happy just for that, but over time I've experienced a broader reduction in pain & paresthesias but it was very gradual.

So, Kitty, it may be worth sticking with it at least for a few more weeks to see if your symptoms begin to improve. In any case, I don't think the CBD will do any harm.

Again, though, my neuropathic pain and spasms are due to spinal nerve impingement and spinal stenosis, not MS. Don't know if the effects would be different for MS patients.

Aarcyn 03-30-2017 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debbie D (Post 1239664)
some are quite strong, though...I'm hypersensitive so I would have to be careful.
When is MJ going to become legal??? Opioids are so addictive and they're given out like candy.

I thought medical marijuana was legal in Illinois.

SandyC was instrumental in the legislation.

Aarcyn 03-30-2017 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty (Post 1239708)
Well, I took the gummies and have been drinking the water but have not noticed any difference in the way I feel or my spasm symptoms. :(

I hate to give up but don't know how long to try. :Dunno:

There are no words to express my sadness that the gummies did not work for you. 😢

KATO 04-06-2017 03:04 PM

Hello everyone, I'm KATO. I'm usually on the PN thread. I found out yesterday that I'm being sent for an MRI of the brain to check for MS. I've been reading the post and I am very interested in the gummies. Will someone please PM me with a link? I need them but I'm not going to change any of my meds until I get my MRI results back. I'm thinking of ordering them for my momma. She has terrible spasms and insomnia. It would be great if they helped her. Thank you for your time. God bless, K.

Aarcyn 04-07-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KATO (Post 1240398)
Hello everyone, I'm KATO. I'm usually on the PN thread. I found out yesterday that I'm being sent for an MRI of the brain to check for MS. I've been reading the post and I am very interested in the gummies. Will someone please PM me with a link? I need them but I'm not going to change any of my meds until I get my MRI results back. I'm thinking of ordering them for my momma. She has terrible spasms and insomnia. It would be great if they helped her. Thank you for your time. God bless, K.

I would never recommend decreasing any medication and substituting CBD gummies. I still take Baclofen for my spasms. I am not brave enough to back off the Baclofen yet.

Debbie D 04-09-2017 11:00 AM

Aarcyn,
I applied for the cannabis license last year; my neuro decided not to send in his recommendation due to my "balance issues"--this after telling me how to go ahead with the application process, and after I spent a couple hundred $$. So I was denied.
At my last appointment with him, my DH told him in no uncertain terms how upset he was by his turnaround and how MJ helps me. Neuro decided to go ahead and send the certification...but now I am in the process of applying all over again with paying out the $$ I already paid the first time.
So I wait...and wait...to see if I will be accepted. Part of the problem is the applicant has to be fingerprinted (like criminals), and I never pass the FBI portion. Then they have to do a name search to see if you're a felon. And there is a limited time period for the process to be completed.
It's a ridiculous process, especially with so many states legalizing MJ.

Yes, Sandy and Jim worked so very hard to make this a reality for Illinois patients. I went down to the capitol to watch the vote the first time...loved watching her keep everyone calm but pumped.
She should run for office...she's a real firecracker!!

Aarcyn 04-09-2017 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debbie D (Post 1240545)
Aarcyn,
I applied for the cannabis license last year; my neuro decided not to send in his recommendation due to my "balance issues"--this after telling me how to go ahead with the application process, and after I spent a couple hundred $$. So I was denied.
At my last appointment with him, my DH told him in no uncertain terms how upset he was by his turnaround and how MJ helps me. Neuro decided to go ahead and send the certification...but now I am in the process of applying all over again with paying out the $$ I already paid the first time.
So I wait...and wait...to see if I will be accepted. Part of the problem is the applicant has to be fingerprinted (like criminals), and I never pass the FBI portion. Then they have to do a name search to see if you're a felon. And there is a limited time period for the process to be completed.
It's a ridiculous process, especially with so many states legalizing MJ.

Yes, Sandy and Jim worked so very hard to make this a reality for Illinois patients. I went down to the capitol to watch the vote the first time...loved watching her keep everyone calm but pumped.
She should run for office...she's a real firecracker!!

Wow for how awful the legislation makes it for simply getting licensed in Illinois!

AZ was also prohibitively expensive to get legal originally. I don't know how it is now. When we moved to CA, the cost of living went up but the license dropped to $45/year.

Would it help to contact Sandy directly?

Debbie D 04-13-2017 02:47 PM

We've talked off and on about it...the Democratic governor who passed the MMJ bill lost to a Republican who isn't too keen on MJ.
This week the Illinois legislature proposed a bill to make MJ legal...the governor said he would never sign a bill for that until further research is done to ensure that MJ is safe.
Oh, so we should just take the opioids that are passed out like candy and wreck lives?:Crazy 2:

abbey97 08-22-2017 01:42 AM

cbd gummies
 
i too am really helped by the cbd gummies......per your recommendation i got cbd gummies ...... i use 2 per night and they really relieve my spasticity and help me sleep.......i spoke to my neurologist about the gummies and he was supportive.......i have a sister who is affected by arthritis and im going to tell her about trying the gummies too as ive read on the internet they also help people with arthritis, and other pain .....

Aarcyn 08-22-2017 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abbey97 (Post 1249386)
i too am really helped by the cbd gummies......per your recommendation i got cbd gummies ...... i use 2 per night and they really relieve my spasticity and help me sleep.......i spoke to my neurologist about the gummies and he was supportive.......i have a sister who is affected by arthritis and im going to tell her about trying the gummies too as ive read on the internet they also help people with arthritis, and other pain .....

I found out my gummies are actually hemp based. This is why it is legal in all fifty states. It is also there is no funny feeling that goes with other edibles.

And I am glad they work for you!


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