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kimmydawn 07-27-2007 09:36 AM

Thoughts and prayers please
 
Thank you all so much for the thoughts, prayers and fingers crossed for our little guy and family. Please send them out strongly right now.

We're getting ready to go and see the endocrinologist. He might have much more insight into the low fetal movement. I'm afraid it's indicative of his being hypothyroid due to the meds for daughter's thyroid. If that's the case he could have a goiter as well and they've not been able to get a view of his neck in ultrasound, so...

It could indicate to the specialist something that the OB's not aware of...there's no answer from OB about his low movement and non-stress tests being so sluggish and barely passing still.

Daughter has had two hospital stays this week alone and is looking at more due to our little guy. However, he's not showing a clear distress to take him at 35 weeks.

Thank you ((((((all))))))) so much for the continued support.

Love & Thanks,

KD

Chemar 07-27-2007 10:20 AM

:hug: Kimmy

prayers lifted for y'all and especially the lil one right now.

praying especially for great wisdom for the endo

:grouphug:

kimmydawn 07-27-2007 12:27 PM

Thanks (((((((((((( chemar )))))))))))))

The endo is extremely concerned. We explained what's going on to him (I don't guess OB let him know...argh), and his words, "Oh, that's not good. That's not good at all." He said that daughter should be very concerned. She's been being over-treated. :( :( :( She's hypothyroid...considerably.

He said she went from way high to pretty low and has been being over-treated with the PTU. He knew her levels were all over the place. Why did he wait another month to see her as opposed to two weeks???

He's taken her completely off the PTU (she was on 200 mg daily). I asked if he would turn around with this. He said he should...he hopes. I asked her OB LAST WEEK if the baby could be hypothyroid..."Oh no" was his response. :(

So now daughter's still very, very worried about her little guy and worried about going off the PTU (going "crazy" again, severe tachycardia, etc.)

The endo said there's a test they can do on umbilical cord to find out if he's hypothyroid and inject the meds right into amniotic fluid. Daughter's very scared about that. It's all scary and so very complicated.

Let's pray he makes an immediate turn around with PTU absent.

Much love,

KD

Curious 07-27-2007 12:35 PM

:grouphug: for the whole family.

this is getting mind boggling. that poor girl!!

kimmy..you are doing better than i would. i would be smacking those dr''s heads together. something to get them on the same page. :mad: i know you have to stay calm for your daughter. :hug:

how fast do they think it will take for the ptu to be out of her system?

y'all have to be on pins and needles. can i scream for you?

you know i have been praying. that sweet baby will be here soon.

love ya

kimmydawn 07-27-2007 12:42 PM

thank you ((((((((((((( curious ))))))))))))))))

I am screaming interally!!! I'm soooooooooooooooooooooooo ANGRY...so angry.

OB didn't even consult with endo through all of this???? We asked for levels at hospitals and said no need. Endo waited a full four weeks when she'd been showing massive instability and the potential for hypo last visit??????

God help me. I'm angry.

KD

kimmydawn 07-27-2007 12:46 PM

I gotta say...

You know, we as patients and loved ones say very sheepishly, "Dr. could it be??" We're dismissed TOO EASILY!!!! It's just a SIMPLE TEST THAT MEANS THE WORLD!!!!! A simple phone call that could mean viability and life!!!!

ARGH!

KD

Curious 07-27-2007 12:58 PM

take a DEEP breath. god will givwe you the words you need without letting that monkey...errr...devil on your shoulder speak.

be firm. look straight in his eyes. that stare that he knows you mean business and know what you are talking about.

it infuriates me for dr's to treat me like i know nothing. hmph...they don't know my background. :wink:

i dealt with incompetent dr's taking care of my mother. her primary dr did not have hospital rights. something we did not know. hence the hospital appointed dr's didn't feel it their job to talk to dr they don't "pratice" with. between the 2...just about killed her. needless to say...they didn't like very well. :D

go gettum' mom!

tell jess she has lots of love and prayers coming from texas!!!!!!!!:hug:

InHisHands 07-27-2007 01:13 PM

Praying for you, your family and the little one, Kimmy Dawn!! :hug:

Praying that God gives you strength and peace! :heartthrob:

Lara 07-27-2007 02:24 PM

(((KimmyDawn)))

KathyM 07-27-2007 03:42 PM

Unfrigginbelievable! :mad:

It's the only word that comes to mind at the moment that I can post. :o

(((Kimmydawn)))

CoolAngel26 07-27-2007 05:37 PM

So unfriggin fair. (Kathy,stole your terminology..couldn't resist!:cool: )

redtail 07-27-2007 09:30 PM

Thinking of you Kimmydawn and sending prayers and positive thoughts to all of you and yours:circlelove:
redtail

dorrie 07-27-2007 09:37 PM

Kimmy Dawn: Please know that in a few minutes when I go to bed, my prayers will be for you and your loved ones.:hug: Hugs from me to you!

Darlene 07-28-2007 01:06 AM

Kimmy

This a time in which we never really want to see in our lives. I am sure you are like me, when our kids or grandkids hurt in any way we are hurting our selves on the inside, deeply. How we would love to take the place of them.

We just have to take one day at a time. Thinking positive and taking those deep breaths as Curious said.

Also as curious I send my Texas hugs and thought, before all of Texas will be with you.

Many :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: to you and your family.

Darlene

SallysMom 07-28-2007 07:09 AM

Dear LORD God,

I come to you this morning only because of the blood and broken body of Jesus. You know what is going on with the mother and the baby. Please give the doctors and other health care workers wisdom regarding medicine and the exact amount. Work through those doctors. Put angels in the room. Jesus, reach down and touch the little baby and the mother. Put everything in balance according to your will and your timing.

In the Mighty Name of Jesus
AMEN

kimmydawn 07-28-2007 08:18 AM

There aren't words to express fully my thanks and appreciation for each of you.

We did get some news about my oldest yesterday (she's 21 weeks today).

She's having a boy too! His name is Ethan James. We will have a Jonathan Jeffrey first, then an Ethan James. They're due 3 1/2 months apart but it will probably be closer to 4 months difference between the two.

I KNOW what this one will look like. He has no choice but to have blue eyes, next to no white hair and fair skin. He's going to be a little cotton-top :)

My youngest (and the one with all the difficulty right now), I'm very excited to see what he looks like. She took her genes from her father's family and they are strong. Anyone having children in that family, the children look like them. They have strong. My daughter looks exactly like my hubby but feminine...lol. They're beautiful people. People would stop her and her cousin (also of the same family) and say, "Hey, are you a *****?" People we don't know! LOL

So, due to this, I'm guessing he'll look alot like his mama which looks like the family. If so, he'll have strong features as the most do in this family...a beautiful family and people all of them. His ultrasounds tell me I might be on the right track...you should see those cheeks and cheekbones! ;)

Thank you so much y'all!

Love,

KD

AfterMyNap 07-28-2007 08:20 AM

Still lifting you all in prayer, KD. Oy. Just remember that anger is still part of God's design for us and He may want you to use it!

Any chance of dumping the current OB and bringing someone else on board? This one has no right to neglect this case!

Holy moly, I'm mad too!:mad:

kimmydawn 07-28-2007 08:49 AM

Thank you, cindy.

I know that I'm angry at the world right now, but I'm really angry at this OB. He should have been consulting with her endo. He knows how difficult this case has been! The endo sends him notes and suggestions after every visit! For all this concern to be going on and him not to make a phone call boggles me. I tell you, nothing will happen out of the ordinary until WE call him for sure.

I will be asking the OB Monday if a neonatal specialist should be seen at this point. In fact, I will be close to demanding it.

He's concerned about the baby's tests and sluggishness, but he's not showing signs of clear distress. What, at 35 weeks we want him to? The endo seemed much more concerned about what it might indicate. He's sent his notes/instructions over and if the OB doesn't have them Monday, I will demand he call for them. We may call endo Monday to ask him if he thinks a neonatal specialist should be seen.

The OB sent her to the specialist and said they'd be working closely together for daughter. Um, what happened? It seems like endo's doing his part there.

Granted, I know the OB has probably never had another case like this, but you learn and are conscientious if you keep in contact with the one who does know?

Ugh, I'm just going on with the same things over and over. I'm sorry. I'm still very angry.

KD

ConsiderThis 07-28-2007 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmydawn (Post 129139)
thank you ((((((((((((( curious ))))))))))))))))

I am screaming interally!!! I'm soooooooooooooooooooooooo ANGRY...so angry.

OB didn't even consult with endo through all of this???? We asked for levels at hospitals and said no need. Endo waited a full four weeks when she'd been showing massive instability and the potential for hypo last visit??????

God help me. I'm angry.

KD

I am so sorry. Doctors make me so angry, I so feel what you are saying.

I wish they weren't so much into each their own little pigeon hole!!!!!!

(((((((((KimmyDawn))))))))

I hope things are improving, as I continue to read this thread.

(((((((((KimmyDawn)))))))))))

kimmydawn 07-30-2007 11:34 AM

Thank you ((((((((((((((((((ALL))))))))))))))))))))))) for the thoughts and prayers. They're coming through loud and clear!!!!

His movements are still low, but he's turning around!!!! We had the non-stress test today and not only was it the best our little guy has ever had, it was PICTURE PERFECT!!!! He just showed his little self. :) :) :) His movements had still been low, but I prayed a specific prayer for God to let us know if he's OK today.

We went and he not only ROCKED on his NST with PERFECT accellerations everywhere but moved three times! He's turning around now that daughter is off the auto-immune drugs.

Praise God and thank you all! Please keep it coming.

I needed to share. :)

KD

snoozie 07-30-2007 11:40 AM

That is great news KD, prayers are still being lifted...Sue

KathyM 07-30-2007 12:12 PM

(((KD)))

So, your little guy CAN dance, huh? :D

Such WONDERFUL news! Thanks for the update. :)

I continue to hold you and your family close in my prayers.

kimmydawn 07-30-2007 10:39 PM

*rolling around* http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/kymdawn/243.gif

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39...ankyoupink.gif

ConsiderThis 07-30-2007 10:48 PM

Oh, PERFECT!!!!!

Never loved the image so much before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kimmydawn 07-31-2007 09:28 AM

hehe.

Karen, I've never loved that image before either. ;) Appropriate, huh? ;)


Daughter's been hypothyroid due to over treatment...so not only was she hypothyroid she was getting drugs to make her moreso on top of that! He was getting both as well.

The most common thing that can happen is a thyroid goiter for the baby (daughter already has a huge one). They're doing a high risk ultrasound Thursday to check everything but mostly for goiter. We pretty much know he's been hypo recently, but if he has a large one that could tell dr's maybe how severe his got?

They can do a special procedure to draw blood from his umbilical cord, but we don't know if that will happen yet. They may wait to see if it stablizes on its own. If it doesn't now that she's off the drugs, they may do it then inject the drugs he needs right into the amniotic fluid.

My daughter's main concern at this point (outside of him being ok now) is what could a three week period of hypo done to him, his development. She talks with her OB today. Her OB is supposed to call the endo to find out what he's thinking and recommends.

I feel in my mother's/mammaw's heart that he's going to be just fine now. I really do. My head gets in my way sometimes, though.

I know continued hypo for mother and baby can cause alot of problems, and worse, but we're thinking he was only hypo for about three weeks.

We have to watch daughter closely now that she's off the drugs for hypo signs and watch/monitor her emotional stability as well. Going hyper can really do a number on the body AND mind.

Please continue to pray/send thoughts and I'll keep y'all updated. We have a specific prayer outside of guidance for doctors and wisdom, and that's that the hypothyroidism didn't affect him more than slowing him and down he returns to our little guy who's done perfectly AGAINST THE ODDS. What a fighter our little man is already.

KD

Dmom3005 08-01-2007 09:10 PM

Sending prayers and good thoughts.

I have to say I believe in my heart that thursday is a good day for
testing.

Donna

SallysMom 08-01-2007 09:20 PM

Will continue to pray for your daughter and baby!

Judy

Chemar 08-02-2007 06:44 PM

KD is at the hospital and just called..........baby is going to be delivered soon as the endo felt ultrasound indicated urgency

Please pray:grouphug:

Lara 08-02-2007 07:30 PM

Thanks so much for letting us know.

Chemar 08-02-2007 07:35 PM

It's to be an emergency C section

the baby is tiny, estimated 5 lbs and heartrate plus amniotic fluid are low
Still dont know if he has a goitre, hence the C section as safer

Please pray for all to go well and for KD to see her lil grandson soon and not have to be so worried anymore
:grouphug:

KathyM 08-02-2007 07:47 PM

Thanks for the "heads up." :)

OMG we're going to be aunties and uncles! :grouphug:

C'MON SEABISCUIT! You can do it! :wink:

Extra prayers for all concerned.

Corkybird 08-02-2007 08:25 PM

Kimmydawn, I see you have OHIO beside your name, where abouts? I'm near Cleveland.


And KathyM....want to give you some good ol' hugs and prayers. Not sure if you remem me from old chitchat or not..I was Corky there????


take care,
Marilyn

Chemar 08-02-2007 08:44 PM

whooooooooooohooooooooooooooooo

baby jj born just a little bit ago and is doing great, as is mom and oh so happy grandma Kimmy

thank You Lord for keeping that lil guy safe all these months :)

http://bestsmileys.com/happy/5.gif

Curious 08-02-2007 09:07 PM


happy birthday jj!!
:hug: congrats :hug:
:hug: mommy and daddy :hug:
and the whole family
:grouphug:

Lara 08-02-2007 09:09 PM

I'm so happy to read this that I could dance a jig. :D
Can't say too much right now because I was so worried and this is such a relief to hear that Mum and Baby are doing so well. Big hugs for KimmyDawn.
Thanks for letting us know, Chemar. :D



KathyM 08-02-2007 09:47 PM

Gooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaal!!! :p

:grouphug:

Congratulations KD and Mom. Way to go kid - Welcome to the world! :D

PS: Corky!! I was wondering if that was you - so good to see you here! :hug:

AfterMyNap 08-02-2007 10:20 PM

Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord!!!!!!

Wooooo Hooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!



Way to go little dude, and welcome to the world!

Hooray for all of you, GrannyDawn!!!!!!!:grouphug:

ConsiderThis 08-02-2007 10:26 PM

What totally DYNAMITE news!!!!!!!!!!!

Happiness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chemar 08-03-2007 06:28 AM

GrannyDawn.............................

I LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Hope ya slept soundly at last KD

Oh what relief it must have been to end the day knowing the lil guy is safe:p

http://www.innescentsfloral.com/HP_BabyBoy_orig.jpg

Chemar 08-03-2007 07:57 AM

I just wanted to add a BIG BIG "Thank You" to You LORD God for protecting jj and KD's daughter through this very hard pregnancy......
and for giving Kimmy the strength to keep going and being there for her daughter even when she was so weary and in such pain herself.

Thank You that jj came out loudly yelling "hello" :p and that he is going to be ok.

Please help KD's daughter heal from the enormous stress she has been under and help the doctors to provide safe and effective treatment for her.

Thank you sooooo much for a happy ending here :)

Amen
:Bow:


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