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Brain damage by meds and psychose, myth or math ?
Hello again,
I heard that medication and also psychose can both struck to do damage to the brain. I sometimes what I can gain back ? And what I actually lost ? Why do we change character so much with these changes ? I think I heal some, but what can I learn more? Image of my losses; - I have trouble with the overview of something that needs work done, and start the steps that I need to succeed. - I can handle way less stress, I got a little bit more easygoing but still having enough trouble with it. - I used to have a lot of trouble with my filter, meaning being too talkative and saying everything that comes to mind .. I think this one has changed a lot. - I gained a lot of weight and I can't shake it off anymore, maybe because of lithium? - energy level is a lot lower.. Tell me more please Or is there not much hope ? Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
''We know that antipsychotics shrink the brain in a dose-dependent manner (4) and benzodiazepines, antidepressants and ADHD drugs also seem to cause permanent brain damage (5).Sep 9, 2014"
I know that I am not as sharp as i used to be. now i am 77 and had a stroke. I have been on klonopin for so many years. I have read that lithium is only good for bipolar 1. A jerk put me on it even though i am bipolar 2 and all it did was made me gain a lot of weight too. Risperdal really helped but I can't rembember why I was taken off. STRESS-the enemy is there a way you can eliminate as much stress as possible. My sleeping is so bad but if you can sleep better that would be great. My anxiety is awful but I have read that meditation is fantastic. my mind races too much so i have yet been able to relax enough to do it. what other medications have you tried? bobby |
Hee Bobby !!
77 ? You made it!! Wish I would get that old, beautiful!! Whats the difference between 1 and 2 ?? I thought it was about psychose level was it not? I m actually not completely diagnosed bipolar, I am diagnosed schizoaffective(bipolar type) so I have all the symptoms of bipolar but also a lot of schizophrenic symptoms. Thats why I mostly tried antipsychotics .. Zyprexa, some benzos and risperdal, abilify and paliperidon shots ..rivotril liquid .and I don't remember the rest.. But Im in a perfect balance right now with lithium and paliperidon..feel great.. I wish I would just function better .. Time will tell .. How are you getting by? I'm 32 In the midst of most questions about live ... I live in a small apartment on the ground floor with a little fruit garden . Just put in an apple tree.. Hope it grows.. Like me.. Groetjes laura Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
bipolar one you can get psychotic and manic. i have never checked the incidence of bipolar 1 episodes..
more people with bipolar 2 commit suicide and if I remembered right bipolar of all the mental illnesses have the most suicides-eck. Bipolar 2 doesn't have episodes of psychosis but they suffer so much from anxiety, depression and irritability. A lot have eating disorders.They can get hypomanic and maybe both can go on buying spress If I had a choice i would go for bipolar 1 It sounds like you are doing great! i haven't heard of paliperidon . I thought that after a while you lose the weight you have gained from lithium. I will see what i can find. i am depressed most of the time unless i read regency history romantic fiction what an escape. I love animals and right now have two precious kitty cats. I live in a high rise on the 18th floor with a great terrace in Manhattan. years ago i had so many flowers and even grew small tomatoes. no more. also afraid for my kitties out there since the building made me take down the added wire railing. I also think the worse but i don't know if that is bipolar. It sounds as if you are really doing great. Don't add stress to your life. bobby |
Wow I could never live that high with a terrace ..
You sound fun , did you have jobs in your live ? Is Manhatten not new york almost ? We have storm Eunice tonight it might have come from across the ocean like you! We have never had a storm like this, come to scare us.. Paliperidon is a younger version of risperdal ! Less side effects .. We have a lot of scientists trying new meds with us at the hospital.. I wrote a poem against my impulsivity And a mantra for grounding my ego This was my first time a bit of a joke but sirius too. I am good My house is good My job is good I am good Who I am is good What I put out is good I am good Sort of like that was my mantra in Dutch Some times I am too much But I am sweet and cosey too Wait a while Sometimes things dissapear I'm sure it will If it is necessary Write it down, make a list Alone, I am capable They see me Does the moment occur Let it come to you, and cease Together you'll find a way Its even more fun that way That was a poem In Dutch it's a little different but yah What do you think does writing diary and stuff like that help others? Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
wow. right i live in manhattan, new york city.
i wonder if the storm has arrived. i hope it is not too bad. i was a computer programmer and a child psychologist. i had to go on disability. the final straw was i was badly burnt and luckily had no scares but was in the burn unit for almost two weeks. then went back to programming and quit. no more paqtience. i have tried many drugs usually they haven't worked at all or turned into a zomby. i liked your poem. it seems like it would be stabilizing and since a lot of us are very self critical, it would help that too. thank you.i did get confused when you wrote Sometimes things dissapear I'm sure it will If it is necessary Write it down, make a list Alone, I am capable They see me Does the moment occur Let it come to you, and cease Together you'll find a way Its even more fun that way i found that confusing. i heard on the new that biden thinks putin is going to invade ukraine. rats bobby |
Heey here in Holland we have money to support people with problems so you don't have to work if you can't ...
I heard thats way worse in your country .. I get around a 1000 euro and I pay around 450 for my little home for my house near the city park its a small town. We also have special houses we people for people with less houses .. The poem starts with sometimes I am too much ..and is actually just for me and my impuls control ADHD to remind myself that I shouldnt message first to others alll the time ..I should let them text me too.. More patience with others ..Im just a bit needy sometimes. Feel alone and scared to lose more friends and scared to have no friends when I'm fifty something and no girlfriend either Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
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How much control do you have? your benefit system seems to be so much better than ours. Really take advantage of it. Can you find more volunteer work that you like and possibly meet kind people? i could have married and came close a few times. They would have been a disaster. you just need a few compassionate friends. Do you have a special interest and find a group to join? Here fifty per cent of the people get divorced. bobby what about the storm and do you like animals? here is one but there are others listed VolunteerMatch - The Best Volunteer Organizations |
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Yeah maybe it's better benefit system, but we can't travel out of the country, after six weeks we get cut of. I like animals yes, but I work 4 days from 8 till 5 so I don't have time I guess.. also not sure if I am able.. Maybe when I am fifty. I now have really nice friends, but they want to see me less than I want to see them, I have one close friend ..maybe this is enough together Toxic friends I got rid of too but I really do need people so Im happy I got some Yes a group.. I go to painting class with some hippies .. I don't really feel like I belong at my work .. The work itself is really what I want to do though. I started an education this is maybe my way out! Greetings laura Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
i am confused again. what type of work do you do now and do you get paid for it?. would you like to go to school and learn something else? If so what would you like to learn?
I used to play a lot of racquet sports but never lost weight. The only way I did it was eating less. Everybody is raving about the Keto diet and how easy it is and how much weight you can lose. it is all over the internet. painting sounds great-what kind. I think one great friend who is kind is wonderful. It really sounds as if you are helping yourself big time. Do you like music? Anybody in the painting class you would like to get friendlier with? What happened to the storm Eunice? bobby |
With Eunice we have 4 deaths and counting..
But I don't really watch the news Are u confused because of the way I write? I volunteer 8 hours a day 4 days a week where I work as Gardner which out of my work I get a small education from 1 day a week to become a real gardener, hovenier we call it! I am very positive and help myself big time.. Some times I would like to inspire others but I am not there yet.. Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
The Met Office said a gust of 196kmph (122mph) was recorded at The Needles on the Isle of Wight, provisionally a record for the most powerful gust ever recorded in England. what a storm. I am also a news junky. I mostly follow politics and the stock market and now the pandemic..
I don't get confused by your writing but I want to make sure I understand. I think gardening would be a fantastic vocation. I love nature so much and manual labor is great to keep one fit. Because of nature besides miracles I believe in God. You have such great aspirations. Maybe it is too soon but with such a positive attitude you could probably also volunteer to help people over the phone. As I wrote don't you dare stress yourself. the news stresses me out but I can't help myself. I am very undisciplined. How long have you been stable? I gained a lot of weight when I was on lithium for a short time and I guess Risperdal for a very long time. rats. I guess when you are able to get a full time paying job then the world will be open to you. You are young and have plenty of time. I read that lithium makes you thirsty so try not have sugary drinks or fruit juice. i bet you knew that already. I can only speak one language. bobby i forgot have a few very bright friends and they think the same of me. |
I'm stable since my last hospital visit in 2015..:)
By the way, I first went to the art academy, didn't finish . I even studied creative therapie. But only got a certificate .I feel I am no longer able to read that many books. I am happy where I stand, yeah maybe I have a lot of years ahead I want to already know if I am able to make it ..so that I now if I can relax or do the best I can .. but maybe you should always do the best you can. Xx Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
Did you have hospital visits ? And what were they like?
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That is so great that you are happy. I don't think that many people are and that is why drug addiction is so high. I only found out late in life that I was bipolar2 with generalized anxiety post traumatic stress from the explosion. I don't think that anybody was more self critical then me. Now I try my best and whatever is the outcome that is fine. What more can you ask. no way are we perfect.. You definitely will make it if you haven't already. bobby |
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my father said no and took me to another one.He just said I was overtired and prescribed thorazine and a sleeping pill and agreed to see me every week. that was the only day of school I missed. I was a latin major and taking some greek. what a difference. with that medication it was so much harder to translate. one of my classes was a graduate course and i had to translate a play of Plautus a week-not too difficult. I graduated with the rest of my class. bobby |
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I had 7 hospitalisations of around 4 mnths and two one years in two different sort of a homes.
From 20 till 25 .. Years were I actually just wanted to be normal.. I am happy for you And I am happy for me Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
what kind of experiences did you have in them? Why were you admitted?
What is normal anyways. I think normal is boring i have never been normal lol I think normal is boring. bobby |
I just got through this whole thread. And I have to say I really enjoyed
the whole story. Yesterday when I tried to start it. I had only bumbo jumbo wording. It just wasn't making sense. So I'm glad I waited. I think when it comes to the lithuim and weight you might want to talk to the doctor about whether there is anything that would help with getting the weight down. I don't know of ways to lose other than diet and exercise though. So I personally would start with a little of both. Keeping a diary of what your doing and the weight you started with and if its going up or down, or staying the same. Also have you had a full medical exam to make sure your not getting diabetes. Not trying to give you more problems but this was something that my son started gaining weight and we had to really watch his levels. Now don't get me wrong, it already runs in both sides of his family. I'm diabetic and lots in my family are. And his dads side too. But he wasn't 30 yet and was going pre-diabetic on his blood test. So he started to diet and exercise more. He has anxiety and epilepsy. And an developmental delay for adults. Donna:hug::grouphug: |
Okay in that post I had gotten through page 1, and now page 2.
I just wanted to let you know that. I find you have a very intriguing life and have done some very good growing. I also find you refreshing and think you are doing great. As most in this page know I'm not bi-polar but I have anxiety. I have lots of family members with bi-polar, anxiety and depression. #1 son is bi-polar, and a few other things. I can't even begin to give his whole thought to list. He is now 40, had a very rough childhood with his disorders. At the time he was a child bi-polar wasn't diagnosed in kids, so his was lots of other things. But the big one was intermittent explosive disorder, conduct disorder, depression, add at 16 and less. He was on so many meds, and it was with lots of thought and prayers and hope that one days we would find the right combo of medications that he survived. He spent some time around the age of 16 in a school for boys after an juvenile detention center, so my other two children would be safe and myself and husband. But honestly this is also the reason he is alive and well today. It turned out we met the psychiatrist that diagnosed the intermittent and found the drugs that worked. When he was allowed to leave, I even had him court ordered to stay with that doctor because it was the only way she could keep him. Because we would have to travel even further to try new doctors. I had been to all in a 90 mile radius already. Refusing to go back. She would give him an after school time and all. He ended up passing the exit exam and graduating high school because of the program and the help that they gave him. And coffee of all things. This is my oldest, and he went through more things, and has little if any memory day to day. Hour to hour, or minute to minute. So much so that I make sure he gets his once a month shot of medicine. And I am the one that sets up his appointments reminders by taking the calls. And making sure he goes with his girlfriend if the three of us didn't do it together he wouldn't remember. He is on SSDI, he did work for 10+ years, but it was an lead factory that he lost lots of weight and really we almost lost him. His disability got worse and he left work paranoid too. And ended up in trouble with law, and in the hospital too. Donna:hug::grouphug: |
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That must be sad, and all those wrong meds must have bad reactions to his brain.. Besides that you have to remind him, how is he now? Where do you live? What is the policy for not working? Cool that he has a girlfriend! Hope all of you are happy too!! Maybe there is more accepting in the situation now he has tried to work and knows he needs more rest.. Our duty is more that we have to take care of ourselves this is more important than working for society expectations. Verstuurd vanaf mijn motorola edge 20 lite met Tapatalk |
He is doing pretty good. We work with him the best we can.
He has applied at times for jobs but not gotten them. But his dad has rental houses. And is getting ready very soon to retire and will be working on getting them ready to sale. Dan works on them with him. But his dad has to help him remember how to do the work again and again. So it takes lots of work to do that. He gets SSDI, and that is how he lives. He has two kids, one from a previous girlfriend who is almost 19. And one who is 5 and the delight of my eye, my only granddaughter. But he does what he can to keep doing things. And when I can figure out how to get him through getting more things done we will. I'm hoping he and my husband can figure somewhat a job out of this. So he can earn some money and get going. Donna:grouphug::hug: |
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Pleased to meet you. I drop by this forum often to visit with my friends here although I am not dealing with Bipolar Disorder. I take it your name is Laura? I hope you are safe from that terrible storm. |
who is laura?
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