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Sea Pines 50 08-23-2007 01:37 PM

Has Anyone of You Ever Been to See an "Energy Healer"?
 
i am asking this because it is all very new to me. i have lived in severe, constant pain for many years as i know a lot of you have. i have several dx's: TOS, FMS, RSD, major depressive disorder... well, the list goes on and on.

a friend of mine has been urging me to go and see a woman here in LA for quite some time now. recently i found myself in between a rock and a hard place - i was thrown into a major flare by one of the nerve blocks my PM doc had been giving me in an effort to buy some time between TOS surgeries - long story short, i was putting off the decision to have a re-do due to some health issues my daughter was having and a potential tx she might have to have that would have possibly made her ill. and i just couldn't see taking myself out of commission with a complete scalenectomy at a time when my kid might need me (even though she's 32, i am a mommy 1st! i know you understand.).

anyway, my friend happened to call in the middle of this and give me the number. again. and i actually called her this time and i did go to see her - she works and lives about four minutes away from my home. her tx's are quite expensive and i am nothing if not a born skeptic, you guys. but i have to say, i liked her immediately. she is about my age and i felt like i had known her all of my life.:)

very hard to describe what she did on that tx table during the first session. she specializes in trauma and i (without trying to be dramatic here, or going into any detail) will tell you that i have had more than my fair share of trauma in my life. she talked to me and encouraged me to speak of things from my past as she ran her hands over my body and placed them on certain areas. i did not have to tell her very much about my injury or where i was hurting that day...

well, i slept like a baby that night for the first time in days. the flare had FINALLY broken! she snapped that thing in 2, is all i can say. in the shower the next morning i noticed that my brachial plexi, on both sides, were covered with tiny little white blisters (not painful, just little raised bumps), which then went all the way up the R side of my neck.:eek: these lasted 2 or 3 days before being reabsorbed into my skin.

the original side of my horrible TOS pain, which struck me out of the clear blue sky circa 1976 (insidious onset, they call it in medical terms...) - was THE RIGHT SIDE. i also was left with a temporary mark, it looked like a beauty mark is the best way i can describe it, about an inch over my collar bone on that side after the very first session . was sad when that left!;)

to say i was flabbergasted by all this would be an understatement. all the focus for the past few years has been on my left side, as it is my L hand that is badly atrophied from the true neurogenic TOS and that is my surgical side, etc. but the original "injury" and the mind-numbing pain which has never, ever left me hit on the R. and i am not big on "pop" remedies, not a church-goer. don't like labels, even - so i don't even call myself an agnostic. but just not sure about the whole god thing. there, i said it. so many horrible things have happened to me and around me in my life, you know? you don't want to know.:cool: but overriding that is more of a engineer/scientist mind i guess. i tend to over-analyze, to want proof of things, well... you know the drill. blind faith just doesn't cut it for the likes of me. or should that be past tense? hmmmmmmmm is right.

This lady trained with rosalyn bruyere and was in the first graduating class of the crucible. she also apprenticed with soracco. her name is mentioned in several places in diane goldner's "How People Heal: Exploring the Scientific Basis of Subtle Energy in Healing," which i just bought and have begun to read this week.

i have only seen this woman 3x now. needless to say i find the role of energy and consciousness in healing extremely interesting. i don't know whether in my case (which is VERY advanced) this intervention will be enough or has come in time to avoid further surgery in order to save my hand(s).

but i sure think there is something here. and i would encourage anyone with an interest to check this out. another book which maria recommended to me is hank wesselman's "Journey to the Sacred Garden," but there is obviously a lot more material out there on this subject.

and a lot of quackery as well. one does have to be careful, as with anything.

i feel really lucky to have found her. she is very hard to get in to see. and i am so grateful to my friend, cornelia, for being so patient over the years with this aging iconoclast. belief is apparently very important to the process of extracting toxic energies embedded in the energy field, so that it can become luminous again (uh, oh!). soul retrieval. very painful stuff ahead, i reckon - but so necessary to recover the essential self. oh, where have i gone!?!?!

sorry if this makes no sense to anyone else. i needed to get it out. haven't even posted about this experience yet on my "home" forum, as i don't know enough about it personally to even relate the subtle energy concepts to TOS. but my gut tells me that, at least in my own case, there is a connection. it does not mean i will stop seeing my regular specialists or anything else. it's another avenue of approach. and it feels very spiritual. that's all.

and if there is someone out there reading who knows what i'm talking about, i would love to hear from you! talk about a babe in the woods...

alison
"Be Brave"

Burntmarshmallow 08-23-2007 02:04 PM

This sound A little bit like Healing Touch.. an energy based form of healing /self healing. . . the 7 chakras or energys of the body . I believe reki and quatium touch are all simular in nature. I am in florida probly has diffrent names in diffrent places. Nice to meet you b.t.w. :)
I have a friend who has been after me for a year to try H.T. so I went and wished I had not waited so long to try it. I found H.T. very helpful for me . I have face pain and also have been threw a good bit trauma in my life.
I have had H.T. a few times and will continue it. Thumbs up on the "Energy Healing" . Many blessings to you and yours.
Peace and Love
BMW ...Tina

P.S. I believe heaven and hell are all around us everyday and I am not so sure on the whole god thing either Alison.

A verse I just wrote a few weeks ago...
"SISTERS" Tina '07
The pulmonary glaze of late evening is best
for gental sobbing.
All speak the same language,
A salty track of silence.
--------------------------------

Lara 08-30-2007 08:48 PM

Dear Alison,

Is this Reiki you're talking about?

I'm a great believer in the power of Reiki, although my experience with Reiki has been somewhat different from what you described. I've never experienced any physical marks like blisters or red marks as you describe though. Maybe this is something different.

Energy... well, that means so many different things to so many different people. I do think there is a collective energy, and I do think that some people are more "in tune" than others with this energy in our universe and in other people and themselves.

If it helps, keep doing it. If it doesn't help, stop!

:)

Lekatt 08-31-2007 02:37 PM

Hi

Yes, I have helped others heal themselves and know this works. I have had some training in Reiki, and find it amazing to feel the energy hot spots. If this is helping you, go for it, never tried accupuncture but hear it is good for reducing pain. I mostly work with attitudes and try to keep them positive.

Love

Sea Pines 50 09-02-2007 12:16 AM

To Clarify...
 
i am not talking about reiki specifically (although that healing technique may not be incompatible with what the practitioner i am seeing does, per se).

i believe another term for maria's practice might be "psi healing" - not quite sure about the terminology to use just yet, so please bear with me. she has been away in utah on a retreat that she does each year and i won't be seeing her again until sometime next week.

just wanted to clear that up in case of any confusion. it's definitely not reiki, though.

i have heard the terms energy healer and empath used to describe this person. and she talks about the chakras, that much i know...

may i just say that she is one of the most remarkable people i have ever had the pleasure of meeting. and i look forward to my next session with her (perhaps she'll shed some light-:))...

alison

Lekatt 09-02-2007 10:51 AM

I don't think it matters what you call it, if it works stay with it. Some people just have a way of helping others. They have a lot of love to share.

Love

wickedwings 09-11-2007 10:18 AM

hey, you all....
 
i need this....i've read as many books i could get my hands on to learn how to do energy healing and healing touch but they haven't done the trick. i have treatment-resistant depression which first came around when i was 20. i'm 35 now, and it's worse than before. i'm a believer, although i know you have to be careful with the so-called "healers" out here who are only doing it for money and not to help you heal. i really wish to get a handle, since i spent years trying to learn, so i can do healing on myself. i don't have much in terms to pay with for another to do healing on me. i would appreciate any ideas or suggestions. thanks in advance.

Lekatt 09-11-2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wickedwings (Post 146985)
i need this....i've read as many books i could get my hands on to learn how to do energy healing and healing touch but they haven't done the trick. i have treatment-resistant depression which first came around when i was 20. i'm 35 now, and it's worse than before. i'm a believer, although i know you have to be careful with the so-called "healers" out here who are only doing it for money and not to help you heal. i really wish to get a handle, since i spent years trying to learn, so i can do healing on myself. i don't have much in terms to pay with for another to do healing on me. i would appreciate any ideas or suggestions. thanks in advance.

If you are willing to read, have you tried affirmations? They help change negative thoughts into positive ones. Look over

http://aleroy.com/audie/affirm.htm

and tell what you think, this is a different approach I am trying. I hope it will help.

wickedwings 09-11-2007 03:44 PM

yep
 
i've done cbt (cognitive-behavioral techniques) and affirmations for years. it's nice. could it be that i'm unable to do energy healing for some reason?

Lekatt 09-11-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wickedwings (Post 147089)
i've done cbt (cognitive-behavioral techniques) and affirmations for years. it's nice. could it be that i'm unable to do energy healing for some reason?


No, But it is a catch 22, you have to believe you can do it, before you can do it. This means you have to start with some belief in yourself in order to gain more. My suggestion would be to elimimate as many negatives as possible in your life.

Would you be willing to listen to the affirmations?

wickedwings 09-11-2007 09:23 PM

of course, i'd have to memorize them by verbatim, although my memory-retention is not very good. i took so much notes on them for years that i couldn't manage all the notes i had accumulated. lol. too many information. anyway, i can use cards to help me with that. i could listen, if i wasn't almost totally deaf, which i have been since birth. don't worry, it's ok, since you didn't know i was deaf.

Jomar 09-11-2007 09:42 PM

wicked wings - have you looked into EFT?

here's a link to the website, video and a free sample download to try it for yourself.
http://www.emofree.com/downloadeftmanual.asp

wickedwings 09-11-2007 10:10 PM

thanks a million, jo. i'll definitely read it up. the video is of no use because it's not closed captioned. but i hope i'm missing anything from the video.... anyway, i'll definitely study that avenue. i'll let you know how it goes. might take me awhile, since my brain is slow these days. my memory retention issues require me to reread many times just so i can remember what i read. lol. don't worry. i can be an adaptable person. it just take a bit more time, that's all. i'm always determined, though. i'm grateful for your suggestions. i believe it's worth far more than gold.... :hug:

Lekatt 09-12-2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wickedwings (Post 147218)
of course, i'd have to memorize them by verbatim, although my memory-retention is not very good. i took so much notes on them for years that i couldn't manage all the notes i had accumulated. lol. too many information. anyway, i can use cards to help me with that. i could listen, if i wasn't almost totally deaf, which i have been since birth. don't worry, it's ok, since you didn't know i was deaf.

Ok, I have another suggestion, just go to my web site and read about near death experiences, I have seen this simple task help so many people. You don't have to remember, or memorize anything. Don't work at it, just enjoy it. Then if you have questions we can go from there. Also there is a section of emails I have got from readers. Just pick something that looks interesting and read.

http://www.aleroy.com/contents.html

Sea Pines 50 09-12-2007 10:39 AM

Chiming in ...
 
i have to say, i admire your spirit! with my TOS arms, i still have not managed to even read half-way through the 2 (not that long!) books the energy healer recommended to me. (the other one is "the journey to the sacred garden," by hank wesselman, Ph.D.)

but i did want to mention one thing. i also have suffered for years from tx-resistant depression. no A/D ever touched it, that i could see, anyway...

my PM doc put me on some samples of Namenda earlier this year, as an off-label use in the hope that it would be effective against some of the nerve pain associated with my TOS, CRPS/RSD, brachial plexitiis, ulnar neuropathy etc. (take your pick!) - anyway, it's been shown to target the NMDA receptors in the brain - which receptors people who have been in pain for a long time have waaaaaay too many of. originally, this med was developed to treat alzheimers disease, as you may know.

well, Namenda did diddly squat for my nerve pain, broken wings. but i have to say... this one rx has done more for my depression than any SSRI has EVER done. took about 4-6 weeks to start working. and i've tried them all, i mean including Cymbalta and you name it. since the early 90's i would say, i've been on one form or another of an A/D, constanly...

as i think i posted earlier i have PTSD, major depressive disorder from early trauma and then of course, as do most people who suffer intractable pain disorders - lovely as they are! - i have the depression that goes along with that, PLUS the med-induced depression that i believe the opioids brings as a side effect.

sorry i am so long-winded. all i really mean to suggest is that you might want to ask your doc about putting you on an NMDA inhibitor - i gather there are several in that class - Namenda is the one dr. jordan gave to me and i gotta tell ya, i feel like rip F'ing van winkle over here, you guys!

it has not only helped to lift some VERY long term depression, but i can think more clearly for the first time in years. as they are now discovering, chronic pain causes BRAIN DAMAGE over time... so it makes sense. i've been in it for most of my adult life, so finding a med like Namenda which even begins to give me some of my cognitive abilities back has been a wonderful, wonderful gift.

OK, that's enough out of this iconoclast on one cup of coffee. i hope this helps someone else. i have to go see my physical terrorist right now, or i would go on endlessly on this topic. it is just so interesting to me and i thank you all for participating on this thread.

i am just finding it highly ironic that it is necessary to drain your bank account in order to energize your soul, under the current [pun intended] system...:D

but i do think enrolling in a legitimate school, doing the reading and becoming a healer yourself sounds like an interesting option. i would like to talk more about that - also how to find healers who provide care under the "system" - for they are out there, kidz! i got a bead on one just yesterday...

alison
"Be Brave"

wickedwings 09-12-2007 01:23 PM

wow, seapines!
 
thanks a million for your story. wow, that's amazing. chronic pain causes brain damage???? i discovered in my research recently that researchers discovered that depression causes brain damage, too! yep. it can cause atrophy of the hippocampus (brain part that regulates memory), and AD's (if they work and do the job) can reverse the damage. thanks so much for the information. it's definitely something that i will research on and gather evidence to show my doc (just in case my doc hasn't come across this information) and see if we could try it. i'm still amazed with your story, seapines. that's really something. you have my gratitude, and it's an understatement. :hug:

Starlyn 09-16-2007 07:52 PM

Energy Healing
 
I do energy healing at my shop. It is a combination of Reiki and "Affirmative Healing" which is a modality I have put together over the years of helping clients. If you google Affirmative Healing you can learn a little about it. It can also be done remotely, as can any form of energy work.

It is hard for me to work on myself though, but I have had great success with my clients. I run a healing circle at my shop every Friday night and will be glad to enter anyone's healing intention at our next circle.
Starlyn

longnow 10-18-2007 12:02 AM

Starting Over
 
I have paranoid scz and looking for new ideas about alt treatments that
people have used. It seems that no one approach will do anything.
Lack of motivation seems to get in the way.


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