Feeling anxious. And sleep is all over the place.
 

Hi,
I woke up at 6:00 am feeling frightened.
. . . This along with a headache and a slight fever.

Normal people get up at 6:00; I am almost always awake at this time because I have not gone to bed yet -- except for the past two mornings.

Now I remember why I hate to go to bed at night. I hate/fear waking up when it is still dark outside. I was in a little bit of a panic earlier. I'm crazy maybe.

Now I am wonder how I going to manage going to work later at 9:00 with this low grade fever. . . . Wondering if I stressed myself out yesterday or if I have something.

So I don't know what is happening.
Weird to be fearful --- esp. this early in the day
. . . . only 3 hours of sleep..

Mari

Dear Mari,
I am sorry if I stressed you out with all of my postings...I did not mean to do that.
I am sorry that you woke up scared....hopefully you can come home soon and take a nap.
hugs to you
(((((hugs)))))
bizi

Thanks
 

Dear Bizi,
I stayed home from work today. I slept all afternoon until 6:30 pm.
I still have a headache. Maybe I can go to the gym for a quick work out and hope to feel better by tomorrow.

M.

I can be fearful anytime :-) If you are feeling badly, it makes everything worse. There is a bug going around up here...last week for a day I had the chills and started the cough again.
Did you feel slightly disorientated when you woke up? Do you have a favorite quilt? Maybe you should get a silly stuffed toy..I am serious..a cuddly silly stuffed toy. My kitty cats keep me slightly orientated..I know they want to eat..
I still believe you have been going through a lot of changes, changes for the good and that is scary...until you get used to the new you. I wish it were easy to Let It Be .......I wish you believed in golden safety nets...the other day I visualized a close friend whom I told you about being caught in one...since I couldn't help him with the trials he has been going through. I also thought thank God I am not a man and have to take all that pressure if I wanted to fit the stereotype of what makes a strong man.
DON'T PUSH YOURSELF WHEN YOU FEEL FRAGILE...THAT IS AN ORDER LOL
bOBBY
PS DON'T LISTEN TO ANYBODY WHO GIVES ORDERS

Mari,

If you have a fever you'll more than likely should be on anti-boitics. Of course it is a debate these days whether or not some things really need anti-biotics.

befuddled2

Sleep! Arg!
 

Two hours of sleep. Hot and headachy again.

I asked hubby to take my place at work.
I have to send him with some notes/memos and stuff to take care of.
A few other things I can take care of on the phone like I did yesterday.

I feel like I am being punished for doing something wrong. And I have no idea how to help myself.

I think this is another breakthru....you were never taught how to take care of yourself but instead how to take care of others....
if your fever isn't high i don't think you need a doctor...you probably need a lot of rest and a lot of liquid. Did you find out if anybody else at work is sick?
To be safe, maybe you should go to the doctors and maybe he/she would give you something to feel better.
Bobby

Wishing you well... and some thoughts
 

Dear Mari,

I hope you feel much better very soon!

A low grade fever is more typical of a viral infection than a bacterial infection. As you probably know, antibiotics are not helpful for the former of the two; indeed they lower the immune system - not helpful at all.

Lack of sleep can bring on a headache but so can a low grade fever, let alone the two combined.

I'm glad you stayed home and let your hubby step in. Good for you, taking care of yourself like that, and not pushing it.

Mari, as difficult as this experience is, i hope this new insight might bring about a breakthrough in therapy, helping you gain control over your the sleep patterns. Your realization is a huge new piece of information to work with! ;)I'm sorry you experienced such fear, though! :( that does suck.

I hear a hint of down in the dumps, free-floating anxiety, guilt. Is there actually anything you regret having done? Your illness is not a punishment; we just get sick. Especially in early winter with weather changes, even if you don't have strong winters in your area.

Like Bizi, i hope the recent poignant postings - mine included - were not too hard on you. Seldom, very seldom have i seen you delete posts, yet you have been doing that. Yet, this suggests to me that you are down on yourself a priori - feeling unworthy? Feeling useless - not helpful OVERALL, as you have mentioned in one of your deletions? Do you feel you deserve to be punished (even if you do not know for what)?

You really do sound down in the dumps. :( But guess what, lack of sleep can cause down-in-the-dumpiness, not always it trigger mania. Feeling bad is a natural response to lack of sleep, and also to being ill!

Furthermore, be mindful of this: when we have sx of physical illness, there is typically an incubation period which may be symptom-free, other than perhaps feeling fatigued, which can express itself emotionally as well. The infection (and stress on the immune system) began before you started having fever and headache. And, during illness including incubation period, our ability to cope with stress is greatly diminished.

Food for thought for you. I hope this might be helpful. And perhaps the following too ;)
http://bestsmileys.com/hugging/4.gif
~ waves ~ sending humongous healing hugs and positive energy your way

I would not exercise
 

when you have fever and/or body aches suggesting a viral infection.

A gym teacher of my son's did that and developed an inflamed heart.
He was told by his doctors, and he told the kids, that exercising can drive viruses into the heart. He had a pericardial effusion, and almost died.

So, I'd recommend you pamper yourself instead, and stay away from the gym or other forms of exercise until you feel better.

Oh honey. What a horrible way to wake up. I am so sorry. I wish there was an answer to this. Something simple.

Sounds dumb, but what about a night light? Perhaps one of those motion sensor ones?

Not being able to sleep well runs havoc on the system.

If you are getting a virus or an infection, please be cautious with exersize. My family and their wonderful genes......I just worry cause of what I have experienced vicariously.

Waves
 

what a gorgeous picture
Love
Bobby

I'm pretty sure that I don't have a new virus.
The above normal body temp goes back to below normal later in the day. The headache lingers -- usually I don't get headaches.

->The wacky temps make me think that the Chronic Fatigue is raising its head. (I thought that I had mostly smothered it or chased it away after all these years.)

-->>Or worse, the attempted change in sleep schedule (from daytime to nighttime) since Sunday night is causing my body to be whacky and I will have to wait this out a little while longer.

But I HAVE to teach class on Friday -- can't really call in sick for that.

M.

Maybe it is ok to up my Klonopin for a few days. ???????????????
I see the pdoc on Thursday/tomorrow afternoon and will ask him.
I take 2.5 mgs (daily) but I don't feel them.

I can't take Ambien while I am taking the birth control pill.

'Don't know what else to ask him about.

M.

Sounds like you might have some type of bug, the stomach flu is going around here.:(

I know the sleep pattern is awful. I take klonapin at night with Trazadone, it helps me fall asleep, yet I still tend to wake up, but I don't get up. This sounds crazy, but I wake up with a craving for chocolate and sometimes I get up and have something with chocolate. Weird.:rolleyes:

The klonapin should help the anxiety when waking up.

Good Luck at the Dr's tomorrow. Hope you get some real rest soon and feel better.

:hug:Nikko

what about lunesta although it didn't work for me...
I sometimes take double my dosage of klonopin and don't feel that different if at all. A lot of times now I cut back my dosage because I don't want my body to need more than the two m. of it. I am afraid to tell the doctor for fear he might cut back my prescription. When I need the regular two, I really need it.
It really sounds as if your body is putting up a good fight against a bug...
hope you can sleep more
Bobby

Viral infections... oscillating temp... work
 

Hi Mari,

I just wanted to let you know that when I have a viral infection my temperature oscillates from slightly above (low grade fever) to below normal. I'm not sure what you mean about a new virus... old viruses make one sick just fine! Well "not fine" really! :rolleyes:

I hope you feel better soon, and are relatively ok for class on Friday. But if you are sick you are sick and can call in sick. It happens. To everyone and anyone. Do you not feel you are allowed to be sick?

Definitely changing sleep schedule/trying to is a stress on the immune system also. And the wacky weather. I don't know about Chronic Fatigue but given the circumstances, just plain vanilla fatigue seems like a given.

I hope you will take care of yourself first, and do what is necessary for Friday, including calling in sick if you are sick. Do i remember something about your T suggesting that it not be good for students as well, if you go in sick? Maybe i don't remember right, but i agree with what i (might mis-)recall here.

Yes, pamper yourself.

~ waves ~

Hello,
I do not have a virus or a bacteria, thank goodness.
I almost feel like you all are wishing it upon me. http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/expressive/shhh.gif

I have a sleep cycle that is messed up. http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/expressive/yawn.gif

I tried to change
from sleeping in the day (like I have for the past million years)
to sleeping in the night. . ..

. . . not working.....yet. . .


I've got no idea what to do about work. And I'm scared. http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/silly/eyebrows.gif

I tried to make a huge change in my life by making this change and I am paying dearly for it.


I think I'll go sob in between more phone calls from work. I need a nap but I have phone work.
Mari

Waves,
 

Yes,
My old tdoc said that students wouldn't get much out of the class if I am so messed up that I should be home instead.


He was right and so are you.

But what happens when I always feel like I need to stay home and try to sleep? :(

Mari

I am sorry.
this all sounds so frustrating for you....
((((HUGS))))
bizi

dunno what to say again
 

medical leave of absence? :o

only wishing you wellness, Mari. :o

:Heart:

:confused: ~ waves ~ :confused: who has never heard of a messed up sleep schedule producing oscillating body temp but hey, there is always a first :o

Yeah, I'm confused too, but that used to happen a lot when I had active Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

M.

arghhh
 

Hmmmmm... that makes me wonder... about myself. had many 'viruses' where the sx were that type of temp oscillations and feeling all broken up... but never developed typical cold sx of a URI :confused: :eek: (tho it ALSO happens to me with a non-bacterial URI)

is there a test for CFS?

is there a way you can tell or a doc can tell if that is in fact becoming "active" again?

~ waves ~ apologetic for my ignorance

This is kinda timely for me...
I really enjoy exercising. I chuckle every time I type out that sentence.
A few years ago...it would have been the opposite I assure you. However, I needed to lose weight and forced myself. I accidentally discovered that exercising regularly was very helpful for depression symptoms.
However, I am prone to migraines and fatigue. Too much...and I get headaches, severe fatigue, muscle pains and might be in bed for three days. I have learned to pace myself.

The last few days I have had a sore throat. I am almost panicked 'cause I know in my heart that too many days w/o exercise could spell depression woes. So, two days ago I felt a little better and went to the gym even though I had a little baby fever. This was the wrong move. That night, my cold got a lot worse. Yesterday, I had to spend the entire day in bed nursing a worse cold and today is so-so. It's like spinning my wheels here.

I'm taking it easy again today. If I don't have a fever tomorrow, I might go to the gym tomorrow and do 50% of my normal routine.

Hopefully, I'll be back in the game in a day or two. No rush.

I too believe that it is important to "listen" to the body and to make adjustments accordingly.

I too would like to know about CFS.

Hi Mari,

Take care of yourself, try to sleep and hang in there, it should get better. I would definitely talk to your tdoc about upping your klonipin, see if that doesn't help you sleep when you really need to. Other then that I don't know what to offer, beyond sympathy for being anxious upon awaking in the dark when it's still too early to be called morning yet. I hope you feel better soon. :)

Nikko and Waves
 

Doctors -- and the whole medical profession as far as I am concerned -- still stink at this so i laughed when I read your posts about Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
It has been recognized since the 1980s by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and yet we have no good way to diagnose it except by exclusion pretty much.

And many many docs still do not recognize it at all. This refusal to recognize it even goes for people who practice alternative medicine.

And, no, I am not bitter at all about the jerks who ignored me years ago when I was very ill.


http://www.cdc.gov/cfs/cfsdiagnosisHCP.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/cfs/cfssymptoms.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome

Vowel Lady
 

One of my life goals is to enjoy exercising. ;):)

I hope that you get over your cold soon.
M.

Pamster
 

I've been dx'd with Lupus and Fibro.
However, every time I read those CFS symptoms I get antsy. I have most of them. I suppose these things can overlap.
I have learned that a VERY positive attitude, moderation in all things, getting rest when I need it and the ability to not let folks who are clueless bug me is most helpful.

slept until after 10:00 pm
 

Hi,
The good news is that I slept straight until after 10:00 pm. I figure I got over 6 hours of sleep. I feel good. :)

The other news: changing my sleep pattern is not easy.

M.

six hours is good....change is hard!
bizi:hug:

;)Great - 6 hours is wonderful. Glad you feel better.:)

Change of sleep pattern must be very difficult, but I know you can do it.

Your body needs sleep, it just needs to get used to sleep at a different time.

I always wondered about people that work night shifts and how they can do it and rearrange their sleep.:confused:

Thanks for the info on CFS too.:hug: Nikko

Mari

I'm so sorry you are having such a rough time.

Hoping things slow down. And you start to feel better.

Donna

changing your sleep pattern is a Herculean task...six hours or more is simply awesome. You are on your way...don't be discouraged if you can't always repeat it...
Bobby

Oh yes, I desperately needed the sleep.
But it was at the wrong time.

Waking up at 10:00 pm makes it hard to work in the day.

I didn't go into work today either.
Feel depressed.

M.

saw pdoc. then nearly broke down in grocery store.
 

Dear Mari

I sure wish I could have been there in the grocery to help you find
what the hubby wanted.

I also can understand the almost breaking down.

I hope things start to look up soon.

Donna

Oh Mari,
I am sorry.
Does your hubby understand just how hard all of this is for you?
Get some sleep tonight if you can/when you are able....
With more sleep you will feel better.
I am sorry about the brain fog...I have had something like this before...but it was more of a psychotic state...zombie like feeling...floating feeling.....
surreal...
terrible feeling that way.
bizi

Hi,
Hubby has been extra accommodating all week.
Thursday he was slightly less accommodating. :confused:
And he probably didn't think that the grocery store stop was a big deal. I thought I could handle it too.

When I called him from the store he said to come on home without the ginger and that would be ok.


I slept for an hour a little while ago.
I think I will just try to get my sleep when I can and see what happens. http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/nature/earth.gif

M.

sleep when you can.
(((HUGS)))
bizi:hug: