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Undecided 01-10-2008 07:54 PM

justbreastimplant.com
 
I was asking logical questions on this website and they started getting angry because I was worried about the saftey of implants. I couldn't understand why they were mad at me. Then it came out, they accused me of being anti-implant. Then to top it off I get a private message from a girl who I asked about her procedure. She said how she had a consultation and scheduled a appointment right on the spot. "Then I was paid in full the next day." This sounds more like a Plastic Surgeon writing this. Since when does someone getting a breast augmentation get paid in full? This lady Nikki that runs this site was just yellling at me and calling me a horrible liar. She wanted me to e-mail that message to her saying that I was going to make excuses that it was deleted. Well when I wrote her back and forwarded the message to her I was denied access to the site indefinetly. I am convinced that website is run by Plastic Surgeons. I did see something on there about sponsorship for Plastic Surgeons. This lady is mad that I figured out her secret. The stupid thing about it is she thinks I am working for an anti-implant site. I'm just a girl trying to find out if implants are safe. If someone can paste this in other posts please do so as I don't know how. Thanks!

cristylmm 01-10-2008 08:25 PM

my experience with implants...
 
undecided, I had implants done about 13 years ago. one burst about 8 months ago. Problem...I came into a small amt. of money however enough to pay my bill in full...now I can't afford it and I wonder if all my chronic aches and pains and cervical problems aren't because of it. HOWEVER, when I can get financed I plan to have them replaced with new saline implants and lifted.
Good Luck on your search. sorry some persons use the internet threads as an outlet for frustration. Please individuals...use this site as intended. Informational purposes and to SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.
God Bless.
Cristy:hug:

dahlek 01-10-2008 08:39 PM

OK after you'd asked your question..
 
about 'voluntary' implants...I did searches...lots of searches! And came upwith absolutely NO objective sites about the issue..or the consequences. I briefly ventured into such sites and found no viable info about all the pro's and con's at all. PS sites are simply sites that exist to extoll the virtues of such surgeries...not the problems!
I will reiterate again, do take a look at the breastcancer.org sites? They have two forums about their own explorations into whether implant surgery is advisable or not... I don't suggest you post there... but merely read their comments about the pro's and con's... I have found that at times, reading about others' desires to improve their images [deserved after the wracks that medical treatments can DO to THEM]should be both humbling and enlighening. Further...They have found many of the BEST and most astute Plastic surgeons in any given region of the country...they often name names! Those references should give you insights as to who are the 'good' docs or not for such surgeries...Mastectomies really can do a 'mind job' on you, the further 'reconstruction' aspects do another on you...plus the chemo, radiation and further follow up chemos...We talk here about PAIN? These folks truly know PAIN...all in the effort to get well and live..
Beyond that tho...is the fact that such ladies as these...who have been the first recipients of implants for other than cosmetic persons...learned very quickly that there were side effects that no one anticipated...and that THEY ARE the ones citically concerned about getting info straight to all patients about whether implants are 'good' or not.
I've even tried to find some Plastic Surgery papers about complications etc...found NONE! I just mite not be looking in the right places?

No one here can make this decision for you...as to long term effects? Many deny the issue, many condemn any possibilities either way.

Whatever your decision, I truly hope you find your way? - j

As to IF or WHEN you might get PN? Well, most PN's are never tied to any cause or effect...

mrsD 01-11-2008 08:18 AM

you can look domains up you know~~
 
Here is data on who owns that domain:

Quote:

WhoIs Information For: justbreastimplants.com

BEGIN WHOIS RECORD -------

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: JUSTBREASTIMPLANTS.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: NS1.AESTHETICSURGERYADVERTISING.COM
Name Server: NS2.AESTHETICSURGERYADVERTISING.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 18-oct-2006
Creation Date: 15-nov-2001
Expiration Date: 15-nov-2008


>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:27:15 UTC <<<
This is info on where the name is registered:
Quote:

Registry Data
justbreastimplant.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: JUSTBREASTIMPLANT.COM
Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.
Whois Server: whois.dotster.com
Referral URL: http://www.dotster.com
Name Server: NS1.PROREDIRECT.COM
Name Server: NS2.PROREDIRECT.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 25-sep-2007
Creation Date: 23-oct-2004
Expiration Date: 23-oct-2008

>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:07:43 UTC <<<
I visited it too...looks like it is only PRO surgery... gives referrals to doctors.

LizaJane 01-11-2008 06:16 PM

Mrs D
 
That was GREAT! It's great to know the vested interest behind a supposedly unbiassed support site. And there it is, aesthetic surgery advertising, Inc.

thank you.

Silverlady 01-11-2008 08:01 PM

Caught you!
 
Liza Jane,
Thought you were vacationing! Thanks Mrs. D. I noticed that link to the cosmetic surgeons right away. Thanks for bringing this info to us. It puts a new slant on the forums we visit.

Billye

bethtaylor 01-11-2008 08:43 PM

Undecided
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Undecided (Post 185998)
I was asking logical questions on this website and they started getting angry because I was worried about the saftey of implants. I couldn't understand why they were mad at me. Then it came out, they accused me of being anti-implant. Then to top it off I get a private message from a girl who I asked about her procedure. She said how she had a consultation and scheduled a appointment right on the spot. "Then I was paid in full the next day." This sounds more like a Plastic Surgeon writing this. Since when does someone getting a breast augmentation get paid in full? This lady Nikki that runs this site was just yellling at me and calling me a horrible liar. She wanted me to e-mail that message to her saying that I was going to make excuses that it was deleted. Well when I wrote her back and forwarded the message to her I was denied access to the site indefinetly. I am convinced that website is run by Plastic Surgeons. I did see something on there about sponsorship for Plastic Surgeons. This lady is mad that I figured out her secret. The stupid thing about it is she thinks I am working for an anti-implant site. I'm just a girl trying to find out if implants are safe. If someone can paste this in other posts please do so as I don't know how. Thanks!

I wouldn't get too upset over this undecided. I know alot about this site. It is run by Plastic surgeons and they do not want anything negative posted here. I was banned twice just for posting my website that contains my story and asking the ladies on that site to read my story before they decide on implants.

This is not the typical forum you will run into. This is backed by lots of money and in my opinion only have one goal in mind. That goal being to convince you that implants are safe and to get you to a doctor so that you will have breast augmentation. I have also heard that they have fake members that post daily saying how happy they are with their implants. I don't know how much of this is true but I do know that there are alot of PS's on this site trying to drum up business.

There are several pro-implant sites out there and they will ban you if you post anything negative about implants.

bethtaylor 01-11-2008 08:50 PM

Undecided
 
I think you should take a look at my forum and read the stories there from the ladies. We have many sick women and we also have women that are not sick but hate their implants because they are uncomfortable or they are experiencing pain from the implant sitting on a nerve.

It is packed full of info on implants and I also have some pictures there of saline implants after being removed. We had two ladies that had their implants removed and they were completely black with mold. There are many type of mold/fungus and another lady had her implants removed to find a white substance floating in them. She had them cultured to find out it was mold as well.

My implants were yellow and filled with bacteria as well as mold. I had chunks of bacteria growing inside those damn things.

My forum is www.breastimplantsupport.org and my personal story is www.toxicbreastimplants.org.

The pro-implant sites will not tell you the truth of what COULD happen. This sites will. Again, not everyone gets sick but who wants to play russian roulette with their health.

Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

mrsD 01-11-2008 09:24 PM

eeewwwww...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bethtaylor (Post 186339)
I think you should take a look at my forum and read the stories there from the ladies. We have many sick women and we also have women that are not sick but hate their implants because they are uncomfortable or they are experiencing pain from the implant sitting on a nerve.

It is packed full of info on implants and I also have some pictures there of saline implants after being removed. We had two ladies that had their implants removed and they were completely black with mold. There are many type of mold/fungus and another lady had her implants removed to find a white substance floating in them. She had them cultured to find out it was mold as well.

My implants were yellow and filled with bacteria as well as mold. I had chunks of bacteria growing inside those damn things.

My forum is www.breastimplantsupport.org and my personal story is www.toxicbreastimplants.org.

The pro-implant sites will not tell you the truth of what COULD happen. This sites will. Again, not everyone gets sick but who wants to play russian roulette with their health.

Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

that is truly gross :yikes: !! If that doesn't put women "off" don't know what
will!

bethtaylor 01-11-2008 09:33 PM

It sure is gross.

mrsD 01-11-2008 11:18 PM

double eeeeuuuuuwwww...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bethtaylor (Post 186346)
It sure is gross.

So now I am thinking about this revolting thing...:holysheep:
If you have a fall or accident and your implant bursts, all that crud
goes into your body? How do the bacteria /mold get in there? They were already present? OR if they got in there AFTER implantation, that implies
they can LEAK out without a rupture? If they were already in there, it makes one wonder how "sterile" or clean they are when they go in.

This is totally beyond gross...it is dangerous and stupid! :yikes:

glenntaj 01-12-2008 07:17 AM

Vanity, vanity, vanity.
 
It is amazing what people will do--and what might happen due to what they do--because of this one little word.

I'm don't mean this flippantly--there are serious concerns with self-image for many people. But (especially as a proponent of rational-emotive psychotherapies), I think it's safer--and far more long-lasting--to change the self-image psychologically.

As I wrote before, I can certainly see situations in which an implant (of any sort) might be necessitated to bring back some aspect of vital functioning. But with most of them being done for aesthetics rather than vital function . . .

Think we need to free ourselves from the tyranny of measuing up to whatever unreasonable physical standrard we have in our heads first. I imagine THAT may all by itself slow down the rate of medical spending.

Undecided 01-12-2008 02:51 PM

THANK YOU Ladies!

bethtaylor 01-12-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsd (Post 186379)
So now I am thinking about this revolting thing...:holysheep:
If you have a fall or accident and your implant bursts, all that crud
goes into your body? How do the bacteria /mold get in there? They were already present? OR if they got in there AFTER implantation, that implies
they can LEAK out without a rupture? If they were already in there, it makes one wonder how "sterile" or clean they are when they go in.

This is totally beyond gross...it is dangerous and stupid! :yikes:

There are many theories and problems with saline implants. First being is that we have microscopic mold and bacteria just floating around so its almost impossible to not have something start growing inside. Also, there are doctors that don't fill the implants properly. Also, saline only has a two year shelf life.

Then there are the faulty valves. Many of the implants have faulty valves. My implants had a bi-directional flow and that is how all that bacteria started to grow in there.

Some of these implants are so toxic inside that if they were to rupture, they could kill you.

bethtaylor 01-12-2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenntaj (Post 186420)
It is amazing what people will do--and what might happen due to what they do--because of this one little word.

I'm don't mean this flippantly--there are serious concerns with self-image for many people. But (especially as a proponent of rational-emotive psychotherapies), I think it's safer--and far more long-lasting--to change the self-image psychologically.

As I wrote before, I can certainly see situations in which an implant (of any sort) might be necessitated to bring back some aspect of vital functioning. But with most of them being done for aesthetics rather than vital function . . .

Think we need to free ourselves from the tyranny of measuing up to whatever unreasonable physical standrard we have in our heads first. I imagine THAT may all by itself slow down the rate of medical spending.

It may be easy to change self image for some people but not all. When you are raised to believe you don't measure up from your own parents then that is something very hard to reverse if not impossible. I've been through years of therapy and I must say that it did more harm than good.

I also think that the media plays a huge role in this. We all open a magazine or turn on the TV and see what the 'perfect' woman should look like and those images are not very realistic.

Once that changes, if it ever does, then I suspect that we will see less and less women getting implants and cosmetic surgery.

glenntaj 01-17-2008 09:07 AM

And here is the NY Times weighing in:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/fa...IN.html?ref=us

The article concentrates more on the inconvenience of maintenance than illness-producing outcomes of implantation surgery, but the implication is certainly there.

bethtaylor 01-17-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenntaj (Post 188174)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/fa...IN.html?ref=us

The article concentrates more on the inconvenience of maintenance than illness-producing outcomes of implantation surgery, but the implication is certainly there.

Most of the articles I've read only concentrate on the inconvenience and very few even mention saline implants. If they do, they say that if saline implants rupture, it is just sterile saline and will flush out of your body. So untrue about it being sterile as I know that these implants grow all kinds of bacteria and mold inside their shells.


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