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Alffe 10-13-2006 04:55 AM

Stinkin' Thinkin'
 
I think that's what Kimmy called it. You find yourself in that black hole of depression, tired of living, tired of hurting and pretty much feeling hopeless.

We have all been there and probably will be there again...it's the road of life.
:rolleyes: (Now I'll have to look that up)

Why me God? Is it too much to ask for a little break here? That's when you need to take baby steps...lower your expectations that there will be a miracle..or maybe you'll win the lottery. (Money won't make you happy either)

It will get better...I've learned that life changes, sometimes for the worse but usually for the better. You just have to gut it out somemore and know that you are not alone in this pit....we understand and are here for you.

I don't know why some deleted their posts...that isn't necessary unless you didn't want to share. Hugs for the room...and look up from the depths...there are arms reaching down to pull you up. *heart

cybil_who 10-13-2006 05:37 AM

alffe i am sorry i delete my posts. i am always asking questions aand thaught it might be to personal to ask and did not want to hurt any one that is only why i did it. my mom says i am to nosy and stick my nose in places it should not be. i am just trying not to be a pest. :(

Alffe 10-13-2006 05:40 AM

Hugs, Cybil...you worry too much. Ask away..that's how we learn. *grin

Doody 10-13-2006 08:53 AM

That's exactly what my therapist told me once, Alffe. When I went into a deep funk unexpectedly. She said to just remember, it's okay because it will go away. Just ride it out.

She was right. But it's hard. ESpecially those really deep, 'sobbing' depressions where you are mourning and the pain is excruciating in your heart. Those are the difficult ones to get through.

But when I'm hit with a round of 'regular' depression, I remind myself it will work itself out again.

Once you've been in that really horrible place, it's almost as if you're scared for it to happen again.

Kinda like an 'emergency room' migraine...when it lets up, you walk around on eggshells for fear it will return.

Hugs.

Alffe 10-13-2006 09:07 AM

That's right on Ms. Doody. We went out to dinner recently with some old friends and it was heartbreaking to be in the presence of this wonderful man, who was wrongfully fired from his job....a job he loved and was good at. A job he thought he would have until he retired.

I can't go into a lot of detail because it was fairly high profile but my point is our friend is severely depressed and is grieving the loss of this job as you would grieve the loss of anyone or thing you loved.

His employer settled out of court with him...and explained that it was "like trying to get the toothpaste back in the tube...you can't..you want to but you can't. And it took on a "life" of its' own.

Our friend can't understand why he has no energy...blames it on the heart attack he had in the hours followng his firing but it isn't. It's depression.
I urged him to go to grief counseling but ......he is a macho man...:(

Curious 10-13-2006 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cybil_who (Post 24838)
alffe i am sorry i delete my posts. i am always asking questions aand thaught it might be to personal to ask and did not want to hurt any one that is only why i did it. my mom says i am to nosy and stick my nose in places it should not be. i am just trying not to be a pest. :(

sweety...ask away. if someone doesn't feel comfortable answering...they won't or they might pm the answer to you.

i had a member of another board ask and ask my "real" first name. i refused to post it. for privacy, since my name isn't a common one...and the fact that i HATE my first name. it's not used by anyone except my husband. :rolleyes:

Curious 10-13-2006 10:39 AM

alffe...i hope your friend does get some help. even to realize the point you made.

when hubby finally made the choice to close the old club and open a new one...he went through all that. it was like a death. a failure on his part. which it wasn't. but when he had his "ahhh haaa" moment...things turned around and the life and energy came back. yep..went back to working round the clock. :cool:

~KELLWANTSANSWERS~ 10-13-2006 12:41 PM

Hi everyone
I dont have much time..I should'nt even be on here.
However i read this and just could'nt -not respond.
I wanted to tell alfie that i am very sorry about her friend and i think he is lucky to have her in his corner!!
Also i wanted to tell cybil .I would'nt think she was being nosey.Thats how you get answers.I think sometimes i am being nosey too..LOL
Also thats how you get to know people by asking questions about their posts..
I thought my post on the other thread was misleading..so i made another saying i was'nt asking for advice..I did'nt mean to be mean in any way..
I am so VERY SORRY if it came off that way..PLEASE accept my apologies {{{cybil}}}
I just did'nt wanna seem like i was telling you guys those things because i wanted advice on fixing the situation-because i already know-it cant be fixed!
I have been married for a long time{20 yrs}
Just did'nt want you to waste your energy on trying to help me fix it -i guess would be the best way i can put it...I have said many times i have trouble putting sentences together so they make sense sometimes!!
Also i was upset over what i was talking about so i just signed off..not thinking clearly at all!!!
I think i should put that in my signature so i dont hurt someone feeling in the future..How i hate this medicine!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is so hard to interupt what people mean here on the net sometimes.
Once again please accept my apologies if i hurt your feelings or sounded mean {{{{cybil}}}}}}
I have to go now................I'm so running late-LOL-...............
I hope all of you have a good day...
~Kell~

cybil_who 10-13-2006 02:59 PM

thanks every one :D

kell u said nothing to up set me at all :confused: u r fine really ((((hugs)))

cybil_who 10-13-2006 03:03 PM

alffe i am sorry about your freind :(

Alffe 10-13-2006 04:03 PM

Thank you Lara..I know about depression following a heart attack...the problem here is that both of them have accepted that as the reason...the only reason for his depression. When I suggested to him, in a restaurant no less, that he was grieving the loss of a job, a job he loved...he teared up and shook his head. His wife, a dear woman, quickly said oh no, it's his heart attack....as if it's easier to accept depression when it's only caused by a physical problem. Depression is depression and I am so worried about him.

cherokeegrl 10-13-2006 11:07 PM

Severe depression is my main mental issue, but with manic spells. I think they call that Bipolar. It does take over, and that is when I do the Stinkin' Thinkin' about myself. I find myself wishing I could crawl back inside the black hole, which feels most safe at those times. I tend to always see the glass half empty. I need to get back into therapy, but I can only handle so many appts. per week! I'll get there.

{{{{{{{Lara and Alffe}}}}}} It's sad to hear how depressed your friends are, but I'm sure they know how much you care. Both of you make such a good friend to others, and I feel blessed to have you in my life!!

Leaving {{{{{big hugs}}}}} for the room!
~Kimmy

cybil_who 10-14-2006 10:49 AM

there is so many who have stinkin thinking :(

cybil_who 10-15-2006 02:14 PM

i hate it when i sitting in the pew to day and some one said smile it is not that bad.

Alffe 10-18-2006 05:29 AM

Good morning cybil...I'd hate that too. How can anyone else really know how you are feeling?!! Big hugs...why so quiet? :)

Alffe 01-30-2008 06:56 PM

I am bumping this up because I miss Kimmy and cybil_who and KELL, wonder how they are and where they went to......:grouphug:


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