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Earl 02-07-2008 01:09 PM

Romney OUT!
 
Wow, didn't see this coming. Romney is quitting the race. McCain has the nom now locked up. Very interesting....

Aarcyn 02-07-2008 02:06 PM

do not like McCain. google Charles Keating. Then go to Keating 5.

Keating bilked my DH's grandmother out of a LOT of money. Think Enron. Corporate man all the way.

Actions speak louder than campaign words.

clouds z 02-07-2008 02:36 PM

i voted for romney yesterday



all the others are bad people i think and ron paul is weird too

JessieSue 02-07-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clouds z (Post 209624)
i voted for romney yesterday



all the others are bad people i think and ron paul is weird too

LMAO! Ron Paul is kind of an odd duck, huh?!:D

Bearygood 02-07-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JessieSue (Post 209629)
LMAO! Ron Paul is kind of an odd duck, huh?!:D

I refer to him as "Sad Sack". :p

I found the news about Romney very surprising. He certainly has funds at his disposal and as recently as yesterday, was apparently trying to encourage Huckabee to get out of the race so that McCain wasn't THE only choice for a nominee. With his own removal, he's now ensured it.

AZjanie 02-07-2008 05:21 PM

I am dissappointed but not surprised. I don't care for McCain at all as he has repeated and embellished his war hero story over and over. :confused:

Kind of like padding a resume but a slap in the face to those who are really war heros and all our soldiers. :mad:

He is not the only soldier to be in a POW camp and those who served with him tell a very different story. ;)

Looks like he has it sewn up.

Rats!!:(

TheSleeper 02-07-2008 06:02 PM

To me Romney was like an example of what is wrong with America. I want it, I will buy it, spend 35 million or so of your own money to be Prez? Smart business? or was he thinking he could make money off his investment?

Sort of the same feelings on McCain as AZjanie, almost 60,000 young Americans killed in that war, thousands more wounded, mentally affected for life, dude you had a bad time over there, granted, wars aren`t good for anyone!

Still no one strikes a fancy to me, none seem to really understand the situation here and tailor their speeches to suit the audience instead of what really might help.

These leaders may spend us into a depression with our own tax dollars, we can`t fund the worlds problems.

SandyC 02-07-2008 06:16 PM

I am not voting republican but I found this strange myself that Romney would back out like this. Do you think that maybe something personal is going on behind the scenes that we don't know about? I am just thinking out loud since it happened so quick and without warning. I fully expected Huckabee to be the first to back out.

TheSleeper 02-07-2008 07:04 PM

Sandy, Romney was spending large amounts of his own money in the race. Figures I heard mentioned was like 35 million, and the results he was getting for that amount of his own money was poor.

As this gets deeper into the primary, and then the race for the presidency the costs will go up. I have to believe the thinking was throwing money in a hole with no bottom and little chance of a win.

Him and Huckabee were like neck and neck for number 2 and Huckabee spent 1/10 the money? McCain with Romney as VP? That wasn`t likely. McCain & Huckabee? Might be some kind of deal? Kelley`s heros? maybe their Republicans? Make a deal?:D

SandyC 02-07-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSleeper (Post 209930)
Sandy, Romney was spending large amounts of his own money in the race. Figures I heard mentioned was like 35 million, and the results he was getting for that amount of his own money was poor.

As this gets deeper into the primary, and then the race for the presidency the costs will go up. I have to believe the thinking was throwing money in a hole with no bottom and little chance of a win.

Him and Huckabee were like neck and neck for number 2 and Huckabee spent 1/10 the money? McCain with Romney as VP? That wasn`t likely. McCain & Huckabee? Might be some kind of deal? Kelley`s heros? maybe their Republicans? Make a deal?:D

LMAO The dems are doing some of the same! :p

Bearygood 02-07-2008 07:21 PM

I agree with the throwing money away part, when it was clear that Huckabee had no intention of backing out.

My impressions of Romney on a personal level is that he has a healthy ego, and I can't help feel that this also was part of it. Better to go out as a martyr for what he deems the "greater good" than a loser.

This is quite an interesting election already. I heard someone say on one of the Sunday morning shows that there will be books written about this one -- I think they're right.

GladysD 02-07-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyC (Post 209884)
I am not voting republican but I found this strange myself that Romney would back out like this. Do you think that maybe something personal is going on behind the scenes that we don't know about? I am just thinking out loud since it happened so quick and without warning. I fully expected Huckabee to be the first to back out.


I wondered myself what was happening. But then again,it could be behind the scenes politcal, too :-) Same thing happened to the incumbent Rep. governor(swift) when he ran for office here. She bowed out of the race....it was speculated that there was some behind the scenes maneuvers(sp?) going on there.

I feel Romney may be better served helping this country with the Entitlement Reform that he mentioned briefly in his speech. If there is one thing I know about Romney, he knows how to tighten the reigns and weed out some of the riff-raff(lived through it when I was employed). He's pretty business minded where running govermental departments is concerned. I just couldn't picture him at the very top of the country. :)....well that's enough out of me for one evening.

shiney sue 02-07-2008 07:58 PM

His Father
 
Was Gov. of Mi. when I was a teen...Please 1 Romney is enough in my
lifetime. Yessss that cheered me up...Yes his father had very neat hair
but it was white,guess he didn't dye it...Sue :D:D

KarenMarie 02-07-2008 08:28 PM

Everyone who has lived in a state where any of these candidates come from has their own story - believe me - I lived in Massachusetts where even the mention of a Kennedy brought a tear to the eye of the liberals and then there's Kerry who is a total waste for much of the same reasons and we had Barney Frank and Tip O'Neal - the list for MA goes on and on - you have to wonder what people are thinking !! So glad I left the state !

Bearygood 02-07-2008 09:09 PM

The Kennedy factor (being played out in the Obama campaign) is quite the phenomenon.

He was President for less than 3 years. I understand the aspect of being inspirational but even with his tragically shortened term, President Kennedy's reign is not immune to criticism.

KarenMarie 02-07-2008 10:52 PM



Certainly not immune - I was in my 20's - he was charismatic - his father bought him the election - he had a young family and fashionable wife - I think his brother Bobby had a more to do with Russia backing down in Cuba then did JFK - he did next to nothing and still the Democrats in MA love anything to do with him and his extended family - they even have conveniently forgotten the brige in Chappaquiddick !

prettypearlgirl 02-08-2008 01:15 AM

This is going to be a very interesting year in politics. I was glad Romney backed out of the race. I had enough of him when he was in MA. Why anyone would spend the amount of their personal wealth that he has is beyond me. I think his ego is definately the reason he spent so much vying for a possible position that will yield more power than financial gain. It's all about power.

Too bad there isn't a candidate yet that offers the best hope for the average person. It's still and always will be about the wealthy being able to hold office. Money begets money, begets power and so forth and so on. Is that what's really good for our great nation in the end?:rolleyes:


Carolyn :grouphug:

TheSleeper 02-08-2008 02:04 AM

Sandy, yes they are, a political power trip. I do wonder at times, when was the last time Hillary went grocery shopping, cooked a meal for her family, just holler for a servant or house keeper to get moving? Or a dinner invitation from a lobbyist?

There was a story back when the first Bush was prez, he went into a grocery store and didn`t know what a scanner was. Just have the maid do the shopping and scratch a check?

They all do the photo and sound bites, but I think none have a real clue what the average American has to deal with. I have to laugh at both parties, it`s that or cry!

My DW has been with K-Mart most of her adult life, makes around 13.50 an hour, but her health insurance costs about 3 bucks an hour of her pay. Getting ahead? They talk about Americans not saving enough, now not spending enough, and they always seem to find new ways to tax too much or to send our jobs and tax dollars out of the country.

oldsteve 02-08-2008 02:46 AM

Romney.
 
I'm glad that Mitt dropped out. I am neither a republican nor a democrat. I'm an independent. I started not to care for Romney when his wife, Ann, was quoted in a news story about her MS. She made it sound like she was "cured" thanks to her husband and her faith. I'm certainly not going to denigrate anyone's belief in religion or their spouse, but come on! She's probably just in remission. For a while I had hopes that Mitt might be able to push for research into MS, and possible cures or treatments, but I don't think that any republican has that high on their agenda. Just my opinion.

Bearygood 02-08-2008 07:34 AM

I fully support people's faiths but when it comes to government, I believe in the separation of church and state.

Re: MS, Hillary Clinton received some type of award -- not sure when but I believe it was from the NMSS. Does anyone know what it was for?

Aarcyn 02-08-2008 08:02 PM

Re: The wealthy politicians.

It is interesting to note that the founding fathers of our nation thought that the "ordinary" people were too ignorant to be able to vote. I think that is why we are a democratic republic rather than a democracy.

The electoral college was created so that the smaller states would count as much as the states with a larger population.

This is how GW Bush won the presidency rather than Gore who had the majority of votes. I believe the Supreme Court decided in GW's favor based on this interpretation of the Constitution.

shiney sue 02-08-2008 08:17 PM

You mean Bush won aaaaaand Gore didn't...Oh boy and just look what
we have now...Sue :(

GIGI69 02-08-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyC (Post 209884)
I am not voting republican but I found this strange myself that Romney would back out like this. Do you think that maybe something personal is going on behind the scenes that we don't know about? I am just thinking out loud since it happened so quick and without warning. I fully expected Huckabee to be the first to back out.


No way Huckabee was going to back out. Youngest dd went to Iowa to work for a candidate during the caucuses (won't say who). Romney went on the attack simultaneously on Huckabee (Iowa) and McCain (NEw Hampshire) because his lead was slipping. IMHO Huckabee and McCain made a deal to combine forces to stop Romney. The strategy stuck. Huckabee was not going to drop as long as Romney was in if for no other reason than to split the conservative vote. They wanted him stopped at all cost for his strategy in the two early states.

My prediction: Huckabee will drop out in the not too distant future and be McCain's VP candidate. We'll see.

tovaxin_lab_rat 02-08-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 210359)
I fully support people's faiths but when it comes to government, I believe in the separation of church and state.

Re: MS, Hillary Clinton received some type of award -- not sure when but I believe it was from the NMSS. Does anyone know what it was for?


Each year, the National Multiple Sclerosis Society recognizes elected officials that have supported the Society, its chapters, and its policy issues. The U.S. Representative of the Year, U.S. Senator of the Year, and Governor of the Year are honored at the Society’s annual MS Public Policy Conference in Washington D.C. Thank you and congratulations to all the previous winners of this award. http://www.nationalmssociety.org/doc...sgovernors.pdf

Yes, Ms. Clinton was a recipient of this award in 2002.







PolarExpress 02-08-2008 08:53 PM

From what I understand, Romney really had no choice but to drop out if he wanted to save face. In order to get enough delegates to beat McCain and win the nomination, he would have had to win every state from here on out. Like that's gonna happen.
As far as the Kennedy support of Obama, I'm wondering if that won't do him more harm than good. While Pres Kennedy is held in such high esteem (no matter what the facts were), Ted Kennedy has a reputation for being such an extreme liberal he's almost a characature (look up "liberal" in the dictionary and there'e Ted's pic)..There's been such division in this country around words like "conservative" and "liberal", it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
At any rate, this is the most entertaining election season I can recall..I was only a child during the 1968 election, so only remember a litte about it..But this one seems to be ranking right up there!

TheSleeper 02-08-2008 09:23 PM

If you saw how W.VA went McCain and Romney with no clear favorite, so the poison pill, McCain supporters went with Huckabee because they figured in the end better to face him than Romney. Don`t let Romney get momentum and more funding with a lead. That was the first sign he wasn`t for long in the race.

Interesting games they play, endorsements don`t mean much to me, a Kennedy`s even less. LOL Chuck Norris? McCain might break out Godzilla! They are near the same age?

A huge difference between what is good for a politician and what is good for the country.

GIGI69 02-08-2008 09:48 PM

McCain has Rambo. That trumpt godzilla dont ya think?

Bearygood 02-08-2008 09:56 PM

I can safely say that I have not been influenced by one endorsement. I actually didn't even think about this until now.

Re: the Kennedy clan's endorsement of Obama, it just amused me. Saw it coming a mile away.

TheSleeper 02-08-2008 11:38 PM

LOL McCain has Rambo? Missed that! No need for a primary, let Chuck Norris and Sly settle it!

shiney sue 02-09-2008 12:05 AM

It' too bad some of that money Romney put out then quit, didn't go to
something usefull Medical ressearch,health anything,Veteran's hospital.
School System's, Clean Nuring homes..ect Well the money out of that
rich man's pocket didn't get him,what it might of helped the above and more.
And the Rich Bush family left a disaster for years to come,that just is
not from storms..But watching him walk away from people who lost
everything on the news during the recent storms,he didn't even look at
them,threw his arm up ahhh we will fix everything..Ok how sad get in line
for years to come..Made me cry..Sue

Aarcyn 02-09-2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiney sue (Post 211106)
You mean Bush won aaaaaand Gore didn't...Oh boy and just look what
we have now...Sue :(

exactly.

I am in favor of one person/one vote.

I have not figured out the caucus system yet. It would be nice to do a one-on-one with a candidate in a small setting to hear candid conversation.

I agree with everyone, this is a fascinating election. With the internet, there are so many fact dot orgs to read about the various candidates.

I am a political hound (don't call me the B word though:D).

oldsteve 02-09-2008 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSleeper (Post 211312)
LOL McCain has Rambo? Missed that! No need for a primary, let Chuck Norris and Sly settle it!

McCain has the "Terminator". Ahhnuld. Huckabee has "Walker, Texas Ranger". Chuck.

Jodylee 02-09-2008 08:34 AM

Did anyone watch Anne "women shouldn't vote" Coulter on C-Span last night? I taped it but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

I really need a good laugh today:D! Although, it is frightening:eek: to know how many people actually adhere to her belief system.

stevem53 02-09-2008 09:11 AM

Romney put his dog in a carrier strapped to the roof of the family car and headed on a trip to Canada, and nearly froze the poor dog to death..Not the brightest bulb in the box..Richard Belzer was right..He does look like Frankenstein

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...Romney-jpg.jpg

TheSleeper 02-09-2008 09:46 AM

Oh No!

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...638065,00.html

instead of frankenromney maybe bozoromney?

Tootsie 02-09-2008 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joellelee2000 (Post 211466)
Did anyone watch Anne "women shouldn't vote" Coulter on C-Span last night? I taped it but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

I really need a good laugh today:D! Although, it is frightening:eek: to know how many people actually adhere to her belief system.

Anne Coulter has a serious problem (her brain!). She says the most outrageous things. I'd say she is a loose cannon. At first I laughed at her, but seriously I'm thinking they just use her to get ratings (people watch her because she's outrageous).

Tootsie

Jodylee 02-09-2008 12:42 PM

I just watched Coulter. I think I may have a new lesion from the experience (just kidding..I think). It was like watching a bad comedy stand-up routine. At least good stand-up comedians don't have to read from a script. LOL She's so full of bs. I'm embarrassed to be of the same gender as her. Why, oh why, did I waste Tivo space on that. It must've been the cog fog. :D
One thing I noticed was that she said a couple of times that she lead the Clinton impeachment. Umm, unless I'm completely brain dead, Clinton was never actually impeached. On another note, I wish Bush would get some sort of 'sexual favor' so he would really be impeached. It probably wouldn't work though because he isn't held accountable for anything.

Bearygood 02-09-2008 01:06 PM

Joelle, can you summarize! I'm so sorry I missed this!

TheSleeper 02-09-2008 01:07 PM

LOL joelle, Rush Limbergers sister? Both may be from a distant world? Lucky I have my tin helmet to block their signals!:D

Jodylee 02-09-2008 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 211637)
Joelle, can you summarize! I'm so sorry I missed this!


Hi Beary! There is a 4 min clip of it on youtube. Search for "coulter slurs obama'. Hopefully someone will add the whole debacle later today.

She was addressing the Young America's Foundation. A bunch of young, impressionable people. A lot of 'mouth breathers' in the audience, LOL.

She's endorsing Clinton in her strange way. I'm not sure I understand why. Of course, she doesn't make a lot of sense 99.99% of the time.:D

Maybe she needs some serious MRI's!!!:eek:

One of the last questions she received from the audience was something like "What do you think of Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert?" She completely blew off the question, tehe! It was the ONLY one she didn't respond to. Hmmm.


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