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Deputy in wheelchair incident update
An arrest warrant was issued for the deputy who tipped over the wheelchair with the handicapped person. The deputy is charged with third-degree felony abuse of a disabled person.
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Well, I was hoping to see something would be done. Certainly didn't expect an arrest.
:eek: Good. I mean, what next, yanking somebody's oxygen tank, cuz it might have drugs in it? |
That's refreshing news..I was expecting it to end with an "on leave with pay" till the story blew over. Glad I was wrong!
..And Brain, you never know what those old people might be inhaling through those tanks.:D (You know I'm kidding, right?) I hope to be fiesty enough to get away with something like that..Nothing illegal, just a little helium maybe to freak people out.. |
This is such a relief... I was just coming to post it. I was so worried she would get away with it.
I am so glad they aren't allowing her to justify her actions or make excuses. This is exactly the charge that the victim was asking for. Very good sign, a step in the right direction. This also means of course that she will not keep her job either. |
That's good news. I would expect that agency would HAVE to do something drastic because the incident was televised. I wonder what would have happened if it hadn't been? And how many times it's happened in the past and got swept under the rug? This deputy doesn't deserve to be employed there or anywhere. Justice was served - although it had to take this terrible incident to make it happen. I hope the handicapped man is OK.
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CNN reported that the person was in there for a traffic incident? I understand that the police hear every excuse in the world, but those actions when you aren`t sure? Anyone else notice the other people in the room didn`t seem too surprised by it?
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I live across the bay, and it's all too common
how the Cops treats handicap people, I know, they've done it to me likewise in turn. They are very nasty towards the handicap people regardless of what you have - period. There are very, very few Officers/Deputies out there currently that have any compassion. They are presently all walking on high wire, blindfolded - just to a point of one slip, there's going to be a massive lawsuit against them. I could have sued them several times before, but I felt that Advocacy and Awareness would be the best move to the Law Enforcement Office to help assist and teach them; and to enable them to understand. However - times have changed, and their attitudes stink, and they wonder why people do not show any respect for them? Well, if they want respect, they should show respect for others. You come to individuals with a rotten attitude, you are going to get a rotten response back. That's how people react these days (I don't - I spend most of my time calming people down and trying to get them more rationalized). Last year had been a nightmare for me with the Cops; where one even told me to stop faking the seizure (I had one earlier and was in post-ictal stage), and my son was the one who remarked to me that he was going to 5150 me if I didn't knock it off until the Medics informed him that I was a known "epileptic". He left. I had been denied Interpreters, and even my requests for them to write it down have often been ignored - I cannot lip-read everyone's lips. I am profoundly deaf. Yes, I can speak, but I am very dysarthric. I know how nasty it is out there ... been there, went through it all, and been marked not guilty or had the case thrown out. Cop abuse towards handi- cap still is problematic all abroad... Basically overall - it's all due to their impatience and ignorance, and some have made a sport of such. I have given my final warning to my own Law Enforce- ment Agency; they got the message. There's not going to be another chance when they mess with me, because I WILL SUE THEM! They've had their chances before, and I've already went to the extreme measures with the Advocates - Deaf Service Center, Epilepsy Foundation and Suncoast Epilepsy Association, in the past, to spread the awareness and to enable them a chance to train their Staff and Employees, several times. They know I am an Advocate and know about my Advocacy website. I can cook their goose if I have to, for they won't be able to run or hide - I have all the bases covered and they would be without any excuse. I am an extremely patient person, but with me, they've begun to push the envelope too far. Just one more push would be "lights out" for them, for they will be talking with my attorney. I have ZERO TOLERANCE for ignorance. And whether the person is handicap calling for help or assistance; or as in the video - a possible person who is in violation - there is no excuse for this type of behavior at all. Handicap people are human beings, they have feelings, emotions, and everything else that a normal person has. They are not "inferior" beings that should be treated like 2nd or 3rd class garbage either. ::: getting off the soapbox ::: |
Yes - noticed that - I'm surprised they didn't decide to kick him while he was down - I think that perhaps some police are what we believe them to be but there are a lot of thugs and bullies in the police departments across the country that certainly shouldn't be where they are -
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officer in question
I understand that this deputy can get 5 years in the pokey for dumping that man out of his wheelchair....
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Question for those who live there/have access to news reports we don't hear:
I heard that this man was a former police dispatcher? Is that correct? |
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Yes, that is correct. |
I live in Australia and this incident was televised here.
It made me wonder about what kind of training the police get. Doesn't seem as though disability awareness is part of it. What happened was horrible but sometimes people are just NOT aware and if you are a law enforcement officer, a little cynical and burned out, doing a quite dehumanizing job then maybe such behaviour can be understood more objectively. Not justified, mind you. Just understood. The woman concerned may not be the best person to be a police officer. I would hate to see her go to jail, especially if the victim was not hurt. Maybe she should simply lose the job, especially if she is not suited for it. |
I just watched the whole incident on youtube. There's a whole bunch of various videos of this incident. NO sound, (I'd love to hear the audio from that incident).
The deputy has since resigned and offered some lame apology. I watched as she dumped him on the floor and it took 4 people to put him back in the chair. What I want to know is "what the heck was her motivation to do such a heinous thing?" She's been on the job for 22 years and now her career is over?? Why on earth would she do such a thing to another human being who is disabled?? I often wonder what is the mind-set of people who can do this to the handicapped. She won't get jail time. But I do believe she has lost her career in law enforcement. She'll probably wind up as some mean guard in a nursing home. God help us all!!! |
It's awful when people are careless, disrespectful or violent to ANYONE, not just people with a disability.
If people grew up with the sense of basic respect for others, and if society encouraged this, it would be less likely to happen. But often it does for a whole lot of reasons. Sometimes you can walk down the street and just feel the anger and alienation in others. Last night I walked past a busy intersection near where I live and the blaring car horns told the same story. At different times in my life, I've felt that same kind of witless anger myself. Fortunately I haven't acted on it - well, not more than a blare of the car horn. :o Who knows what was in that police woman's mind? She seems to have paid a price and maybe something can be done about the culture of her work place, training of police officers and so on. |
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Sorry MrsB. but I can't agree with you on this one. I also live in Oz and saw the incident televised. I believe this woman deserves more punishment than simply a rap on the knuckles and losing her job. I know darn well that if it happened to me or some-one I cared about, I would not stop pushing until I saw justice served. |
I agree. If this has been a woman just walking down the street, who had done this... everyone would be yelling that she should go to jail. There wouldn't have been any other consequence for her.
But, just because she loses her job doesn't mean that should be her only consequence. She of all people knew the consequences of her actions. She should have known what would happen. She should have simply not dealt with him if she couldn't handle it. But, she doesn't look angry to me. She just methodically dumps him out, as if she does it everyday. I still say, if she did this knowing it was being videotaped...then what has she done behind the cameras? She needs to go to jail. Maybe the next person will think twice about abusing someone who can't fight back? Maybe not... but at least this person will get justice. Quote:
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You know what really bothered me after seeing the video (countless times)? It wasn't just the woman who dumped him out of the wheelchair, but after they finally got him back in the chair, it showed an older deputy (or whatever his rank) walking away (toward the camera) laughing, as if it was some kind of joke. I'm glad the woman is being held accountable for her actions, but this is not just a one person thing, obviously..It just hurt to see that..
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I saw the video on the commercial news and a very short account of what had occurred. I guess I am little tired of trial by media. We rarely know the whole story of incidents like this. I was not condoning what happened.
I was careful to say that the action was wrong, and there should be a consequence. Whatever, it does show that police need awareness training around disability issues |
Perhaps this story will explain my position a little more.
In the 1990's here in relatively short period of time, there were 28 fatal shootings of mentally ill or disturbed people by police. Some of the shootings were simply not justifiable. By that I mean that other approaches could have been used to defuse situations. It was also questioned whether shooting to death was really necessary. It was felt that the police involved did not understand mental illness very well and were frightened by it. Or they had strange preconceptions about it. The police also were not skilled in negotiation and defusing of situations. There was also quite a 'gung-ho' attitude about guns, especially with younger police. So the Government of the day arranged training around mental illness and defusing particular situations. Police procedures around using guns were also looked at. The outcome of all this was that the fatal police shootings of mentally disturbed people dramatically declined. So, I am coming from that perspective. In relation to the incident which sparked this thread, there may have been really insensitivity and even callousness in the deputy's treatment of that man in the wheelchair. There should be appropriate procedures in place to deal with the issue, but probably there are not. I don't know the US system all that well. If this action was regarded as an assault, would jail be the normal consequence? Best wishes to all. |
maybe they sould tie the officers hands behind his back and dump her from the wheelchair
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I saw a suggestion of dumping her from a wheelchair - I think if we started to punish people with the same things that they did to others (an eye for an eye) our crime rate would go way down. You slam someone's head into a wall - hey, if it was good enough for them then it's good enough for you! I know it will never happen but it's nice to think that it could! |
She had 22 years of law enforcement experience, prior to her arrest and subsequent resignation. ell me she didn't know better. :rolleyes: Three other people remain under investigation.
I watched the whole film. :eek: I'm glad I don't live in Tampa Bay anymore. |
MrsB I agree trial by media is never good. We have only seen what the media has wanted us to see but with that said the deputy should have walked away no matter if the wheelchair man was taunting her...I also agree sensitivity training is in great need with law enforcement agencies all across America.
Sending her to jail...she will receive solitary confinment for her duration in jail because if you place her in general population the prisoners will KILL her...is that justice? Does that justice fit the crime? I AGREE fully that she deserves punishment. When the judge makes his ruling he will take into consideration the crime committed as well as all options of punishment to ensure she pays a price for her actions but also making sure that price is not the ultimate price. |
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My heart goes out to everyone concerned and I hope that mercy prevails for all. In this country, it is highly unlikely that the policewoman would go to jail unless the 'victim' was seriously injured, and even then it would be unlikely. She would probably lose her job, however, and may be fined or sentenced to community service if she was convicted. A lot would depend on her past experience and record of work. |
I totally agree with you.
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Dear Silverlining,
I looked at your blog and can see where you are coming from. There is much wanton cruelty in the world. I don't know where one begins to address it all. The vulnerable are many: the people with disabilities you mention on your blog are some. Homeless people, women and children who experience sexual assault and domestic violence, the poor, people who subscribe to particular religious beliefs, gay men and women - the list is terrifyingly endless. I think each one of has to decide how we act. And society enacts laws to guide how people act as well as to punish them. In this case, there was no murder, and the woman concerned has been charged. There are different levels of crime. Murder or serious physical assault should always be punished according to the law and circumstances of the crime. The law differs according to the nature and circumstance of each crime, however. I work in disability policy as well as having a number of disabilities myself. My job is to help ensure that the organisation in which I work provides access and fairness to people with a disability. To do that we have to work constantly in making people without disabilities aware and mindful of the needs and rights of those who have. That is all we can do. Educate people in an ongoing way and act with kindness ourselves. In other workplaces in my life I experienced extreme harrassment as well but it was because of personal life choices, not because I have a disability. I just wish sometimes the world was a better place. We can change our immediate worlds, however. My best wishes. :hug: . |
My son is a police officer and he was very disturbed by this incident. He can be tough when needed but he has a compassion for people that I believe helps him in his position. Now, criminals will try to play upon that compassion but he has learned that he can be compassionate with a person's circumstances but still insist that they abide by the law.
Like he says, there is no reason to torment or ridicule a person he has taken into custody just for the mere fact that he "can". He can insist that they answer for their crime but he can remain professional while doing his job. Doesn't mean that he agrees with what they did or even feels sorry for them individually - but he feels like he is helping any victims of the incident by keeping his cool and being as professional and fair as he can be. Law enforcement is under constant scrutiny - and like my son says - as long as you do the right and lawful thing you don't need to worry about whether or not you're on camera or not. He keeps his dashboard cam on each and every time he makes a traffic stop and doesn't turn it off until the car he stopped drives away. You gotta CYA whatever job you have - he just has to make sure that his is documented..... |
Mrs. Backyard:
You said: hat is all we can do. Educate people in an ongoing way and act with kindness ourselves. In other workplaces in my life I experienced extreme harrassment as well but it was because of personal life choices, not because I have a disability. I just wish sometimes the world was a better place. We can change our immediate worlds, however." I think this is one of the most profound statements I have ever read. It nails everything right on the head. I believe that Deputy was having a really bad day. People who can do this to another human being, well, they are capable of going home, and if their dog is in the wrong place and the wrong time, they will kick their dog. They act on impulses. This woman who dumped the guy, well she was acting on her impulses. She really needs to be in some kind of anger management course or something. I especially liked that you wrote that people should be kind to each other. I try and do this every single day, because who wants grumpy, mean people around you. My husband had an operation the other day. I spent much of that afternoon sitting across the chair facing an 84 year old holocaust survivior. All she wanted was someone to listen to. She had diabetic neuropathy and her feet were on fire. I kept saying to myself "My god, this woman was in the holocaust and now her feet are on fire???" Doesn't seem fair sometimes. But I listened and held her hand. Her daughter looked worse than she did because of all the worrying. When they left, do you know that they hugged me and thanked me for being kind to their 84 year old mother. If you think about it, what exactly did I do?? I just listened and held someone's hand and they felt a bit better. No magic bullets, just compassion. I don't think the human race is born with compassion. I think it's an evolving, learning experience that often comes with maturity. Too bad a kid isn't born with it naturally. Maybe some are but often we are not. That deputy screwed up a 22 year career because she made such a bad decision. I can only imagine that she's hitting herself over the head because she did such a thing. I hope that the sheriff's office implements some kind of anger managment de-stressing program that will offer their employees a chance to chill out for a few minutes during the day. In Japan, they take yoga breaks and they take time out for themselves. They REALLY KNOW HOW TO DE-STRESS. Just wanted to share my opinion. Good post on your part, my dear. |
I bet she is. But I bet she isn't sorry she did it, only sorry that she was caught. She isn't sorry for what she did to this man, simply sorry for the consequences to her.
That is the entire problem I have with the situation. She isn't sorry. She doesn't care. She is just upset that HER life has been affected by it. Quote:
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Thank you Mrs B...
Kitty, it's officer's like your son that get a bad rap because of the ones like this Deputy. It's very sad. |
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It's just like a cheating spouse - they're sorry and ready to admit all and change their ways once they are caught. Would they be doing the same if they hadn't been found out? No - absolutely not. She is upset at the fact that she caught - and that's all. I shudder to think about what she's done that she hasn't gotten caught for. |
That is exactly my point. If she is capable of this when she knows people are watching, then what has she done when people are not? If she'll do this when cameras are rolling, then what has she done when the cameras are off? :confused:
There is a trooper in Utah that I think could easily end up in the same situation or worse. He is on a total power trip and literally enjoys making people cry on the side of the road. While he has been "in trouble" a couple of times it's never been enough to get him off the road. I shudder at the thought of what it will take to get him off the road eventually. :( Quote:
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I want to borrow your avatar, jmiller, For some reason I have a fasination with tornadoes. How would I put it under my name, do you know?
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