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Mrs. Bear 02-29-2008 11:04 AM

I need better coping skills
 
Wes is manic. Mean little gremlin. How do I do this? He can't see or feel the mania. He just knows we all **** him off to no end.

This sounds terrible, and please forgive me, but I want to give him away right this second. I am just not able to cope right now. It's all been too much and I can't do this right now. I am tired. I am not feeling well.

And I am emotionally spent.

I just wanna bawl. How selfish is that? God, I feel like such a terrible parent. I really want him to be somewhere else right now.

sigh.

How do I pull myself together? I gotta keep going, but this is just more than I can handle right now. Too many other things that are putting me on emotional over load.

Sorry for being gone so long. It's just rough at my house lately.

Mari 02-29-2008 11:52 AM

Dear Mrs. Bear,
We forgive you -- not that you need to be forgiven.
It is normal and ok even to feel like you want to give him away. Please don't add this to your list of things to beat yourself up with.

That would be great if you lived somewhere that had a drop in center or a type of day care place where he could be safe for the day. Then you could pick him up in the afternoon aferwork

Maybe there are one or two things that you do have control over that you can cut out or make go away so that you can deal with other things a little better.

'Sorry that you are going through this.

M

Pamster 02-29-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 227078)
Dear Mrs. Bear,
We forgive you -- not that you need to be forgiven.
It is normal and ok even to feel like you want to give him away. Please don't add this to your list of things to beat yourself up with.

That would be great if you lived somewhere that had a drop in center or a type of day care place where he could be safe for the day. Then you could pick him up in the afternoon aferwork

Maybe there are one or two things that you do have control over that you can cut out or make go away so that you can deal with other things a little better.

'Sorry that you are going through this.

M

I agree with Mari Mrs. Bear, you shouldn't beat yourself up over having those feelings, I have them about Jackie too and he definitely strikes me as being in a manic phase these days. He doesn't have a dx of BP yet but I suspect one is coming in the years ahead because of his behavior. Do your best to try to hang in there and be good to yourself, you're doing the best you can right now and that's all anyone can ask for. :hug:

bizi 02-29-2008 05:47 PM

YOu are doing the best that you can!
YOu are a wonderful mother and have been such an advocate for him over the years.
I too wonder if there might be a drop in center that he could go to when he is like this.
One of my clients who has anger/behavior issues jsut got admitted to a group residential home for therapy.
THe majority of the people there have substance abuse issues.
He is there to learn how to deal with his emotions and anger.
They have long therapy sessions everyday,
he will probably be there 3-4 months.
Please don't be hard on yourself for being normal and thank you for trusting us to verbalize your feelings.
What does your hubby think about all this?
((((HUGS))))
bizi

mymorgy 02-29-2008 06:45 PM

I think you should find a group setting for him for his sake and for yours. I think you should also attend a support group that will make you realize that somethings are beyond our control and it is nothing to do with selfishness. What kind of a lesson are you teaching him if you are being brutal to yourself?
You don't want to do that do you? Also in a group setting they may be able to safely experiment with a combination of drugs that might help him and stabilize him. Obviously, the medication he is on now isn't helping. Sometimes acts of kindness in the beginning look like cruelty but in the long run are loving acts...show him how much you love him!
Bobby

bizi 02-29-2008 08:05 PM

more hugs for you bear
((((((HUGS))))))
bizi:hug:

befuddled2 03-01-2008 04:31 AM

:hug: Mrs. Bear :hug:

You are a good mother to your children! You'll know what is best I'm sure.

befuddled2

Mrs. Bear 03-01-2008 10:58 AM

I was so tired yesterday. Blew my happy place.

He is trying to break free. At 18, that is what he is supposed to be doing. And then he hangs on so tight and won't give me seconds' peace. Like he was little again.

He wants to move in with his favorite aunt and uncle. And they have a room for him. This uncle was the only family member on my ex's side of the family that would help me with the kids. When my ex had a transplant, this uncle would watch the boys while I ran their daddy to doctors and dialysis. To the point that Con would call his uncle Mom. Too cute.

His aunt is also bipolar with a very long swing. She is very aware of the ups and downs and also the psychotic element that Wes has. They are all very close and I feel very comfortable with the arrangment. Also, they don't live very far away.

But Wes has to pass his drivers test first and get a full time job because they want him to pay rent. Which is also a wonderful idea. His first steps of becoming independant in a safe enviornment.

I just lost it yesterday cause Con's been really sick and is scaring me. And I just didn't have it in me to be, I dunno, be more than I could at that moment.

The pdoc said give him another shot of Geodon, which didn't happen. He thinks I bent the needle in him last time. lol. I didn't. It just hurt.

And he sees his therapist Monday. So that will help.

Thanks for understanding. It just felt so mean to say. But I guess it's a normal reaction under stress.

My husband is trying to learn more about the psychotic feature of this disorder. He is being very patient and very firm with the boy. Won't give in to his every whim, because if we did that would actually hurt Wes. But he is also loving about it. Good guy.
:grouphug:

Mari 03-01-2008 02:08 PM

Dear Mrs. Bear,
I'm glad that your husband is being helpful.
Men can handle some things better that we do.
In this case, it sounds like he is keeping a balance in the house.
Can you get more sleep so that you can handle things better? Is sleep one of your issues?

Mari

mymorgy 03-01-2008 03:14 PM

I still like the idea of a group home until his doctors find some medication that will stabilize him. I have never been psychotic but I have paranoid thoughts that I knew were ridiculous and obsessive thoughts. I am sorry I am being negative short term.
Bobby

bizi 03-01-2008 09:25 PM

Thanks for the update, bear.
You have a wonderful family.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

Mrs. Bear 03-03-2008 09:59 AM

Man. I looked into group settings and residential treatment. They are ALL about drug rehab. And anything that also treats mental disorders are for kids up to 17.

I found one place in Maine that would fit him. BUT....I doubt I could swing the tuition. I'm gonna call them anyway. Never know unless you ask. That is where I get stopped every time. We make too much money so he won't qualify for any of the state programs but I don't have a large enough income to send him to a boarding school or private school.

Once again, we need to be independantly wealthy in order to afford the luxery of being ill. sucks.

He went through a bit of a rage on Saturday evening, but pulled right back out of it. But he wouldn't go to work with his step-dad today either. I will call the pdoc in a bit and get him in. I am almost afraid to though. I don't want to hear what the next step may be. It scares me.

If I could just get my Con well and back in school, I don't think this would be so overwhelming. All will be well, but I am having a hard time waiting.

Thank heavens work is mellow and I am highly medicated. I would be so much more freaked out. (Usually this is my manic time, but I think we cut it off before I got rolling. wheh.)

Mari 03-03-2008 03:40 PM

Dear Mrs. Bear,

Stay highly medicated since that seems to be helping right now.
I hope Con gets straightened out soon. :hug:
I remember that you have looked into places for Wes before. I would hesitate to send him far far away. You want to be close enough so that you can keep an eye on how the place treats him.

Who can I vote for this November who will improve care for us and our children? ?? :mad: I want to know that someone beyond the folks living with it care about health care and mental health care issues.

I can dream I suppose. :)

M.

Mrs. Bear 03-03-2008 04:04 PM

Supposedly Hillary. According to one of my patients. lol

The wild thing is, now he is an adult.

Even wilder? Now, he may qualify for state assistance because they can't count my income and he doesn't have a job. Which means he might be eligible for state mental health. And they may have a program for him. And there are a couple of other places I can apply for him as well.

I just got off the phone with a few places and have filed the application for state assistance. I will need to wait till after work to do the rest though. I have to do something productive today.

Dmom3005 03-03-2008 07:25 PM

Mrs Bear

You also need to apply for SSI for him. THe way it sounds he will have a
very hard time handling a job or even getting his drivers license. So I
would apply for this too for him.

Also you might apply for a medicaid waiver if there is such a thing in
your state for mental illness. Some states have one. I am also not
sure but you might check into vocational rehabilation and a job coach,
they would also help with transportation for him to a job.

This way maybe you could get financial help for him to move into his
relatives housing and pay rent and his share of utilties. There are
some programs that do this.

And remember when you do the SSI that if he qualifies declare rent,
utilities and food allowances for him so he gets more.

Donna

Mrs. Bear 03-05-2008 10:19 AM

I am going to go for ssi and medicare as well. He is slowly swinging back to a good place. The rage is very contained and not as frequent. I think part of it was from seeing his therapist and having a plan about getting some assistance in order for him to move forward. I really hope they accept his application. That will open a bunch of doors while I am working on the government.

Stressed, but ok. I am still doing allright in my own little battle with the bipolar monster. Good thing too. The world is upside down right now. :D

bizi 03-05-2008 11:05 AM

I am sure that htings will work out for wes.
He is a good guyand you are a terrific mom!
Glad that you are hanging in there.
((((HUGS))))
bizi
:hug:

befuddled2 03-05-2008 04:34 PM

Mrs. Bear, I would also look into Medicaid or Medical for Wes as that pays for much more than Medicare. Medicare when I got SS had a waiting period of 2 years. Wes should qualify for disability from Social Services while waiting for SS and Social Services could give him Medicaid. My mother-in-law's oldes son live with her and gets Medicaid. Medicaid will also pay for adult homes with a grant from the goverment.

Best wishes with your endeavor.

befuddled2

Pamster 03-06-2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by befuddled2 (Post 230295)
Mrs. Bear, I would also look into Medicaid or Medical for Wes as that pays for much more than Medicare. Medicare when I got SS had a waiting period of 2 years. Wes should qualify for disability from Social Services while waiting for SS and Social Services could give him Medicaid. My mother-in-law's oldes son live with her and gets Medicaid. Medicaid will also pay for adult homes with a grant from the goverment.

Best wishes with your endeavor.

befuddled2

Good advice befuddled2. :) So is the idea of looking into Med-Waiver. ;) Good luck Mrs. Bear we're here for you! :)


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