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Snoopy 04-02-2008 06:35 PM

MS map
 
I need your help.

My DD is doing a report in Biology on MS (Yes, very proud mom here:D)

I have been trying to find her one of the MS maps but for the life of me I can't seem to remember where to find it.

Does anyone have a link?

tovaxin_lab_rat 04-02-2008 06:40 PM



http://www.atlasofms.org/welcome.aspx

lady_express_44 04-02-2008 06:52 PM

Interesting link, Cheryl.

None of the maps seem to be the same. The one I've always referred to is below, because it is a good north/south gradient visual:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...s_worldmap.jpg

(I don't happen to believe the north/south gradient theory anyway, but it's a cool pic of it. :D)

Cherie

AfterMyNap 04-02-2008 07:10 PM

I use the atlasofms.org too, LA, it's nice to be able to look at any number of combinations of countries and regions, etc., hospital populations, available MRI facilities across the globe, number of neurologists in a given nation or continent, etc. It's also an ongoing research project with almost daily updates.

You can easily get the MS population for any nation, region, continent and more.

Incidentally, Cherie, is that the famous 1965 map?

Koala77 04-02-2008 07:19 PM

:Off-Topic:


I know you'll all be very interested in this!


If you look at the green and yellow map of Australia (on Cherie's map)...Tasmania is that little red heart at the bottom! :)

Just thought you'd like to know that! :rolleyes:


If you look v-e-r-y closely, you can see me waving! :D

lady_express_44 04-02-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AfterMyNap (Post 250087)
Incidentally, Cherie, is that the famous 1965 map?


NO, couldn't be . . . in 1965 everything was still in black and white, wasn't it? ;)

Yeah, it's an old map . . . but the funny thing is that people still refer to it to prove the north/south gradient relationship. I guess it serves a purpose. :cool: I just like to think vitamin D is going to make it all better. :p

The stats don't appear correct, even on some of the newest maps either. They smooth over large statistical variances, like the fact that one of our provinces, Alberta, has an average of something like 311:100,000. No where on ANY prevalence map that I've seen, do they even have a category for such a high level.

Oh well, if you average it over some of the other provinces, I guess it works out in the wash (however deviating from the "clusters" that are around the world).

Cherie

Erin524 04-02-2008 07:54 PM

Here is a research study with a map that shows some overlap of MS to Lyme disease...or something like that...

http://www.canlyme.com/megan_geostat...analysis2.html

It's been awhile since I read it, and for some reason I dont remember all of what it says, and my brain cant seem to concentrate on what it says today....

Snoopy 04-03-2008 05:07 AM

:Thanx: everyone :You-Rock:



I will let my daughter choose which one she wants to use. She asked her biology teacher if she could do the project on MS because there are specific questions they need to ansewr about their disease of choice and as we know and as my daughter knows there is still alot unknown about MS.

He told to go ahead with MS and then proceeded to tell her he just had a call from his cousin the other day - his cousin was just dx'd with MS.

This is a partner project. My DD asked her partner if doing it on Multiple Sclerosis was okay with her and her partner said that's fine. Then my little sweetheart asked her partner if she knew what MS was. The response was - Yeah, isn't that the disease that affects the muscles. My DD told her no that's MD :D

Again, Thank you so much for your help :)

KAOheim 04-03-2008 07:40 AM

Here's the one I posted about a while back. Geography is a good career now a days! It's been bery, bery good to me! (well ok, not that good, but it is fun)

http://www.msgeographics.com/

kicker 04-03-2008 10:18 AM

. The response was - Yeah, isn't that the disease that affects the muscles. My DD told her no that's MD :D :)[/QUOTE]

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Aren't we Jerry's Kids?!!??

Kitt 04-03-2008 10:45 AM

MS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kicker (Post 250536)
. The response was - Yeah, isn't that the disease that affects the muscles. My DD told her no that's MD :D :)

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Aren't we Jerry's Kids?!!??[/QUOTE]


Hi, I cannot specifically find MS listed on the MDA site but I know they help with funding for research and such. There are around 40 diseases covered by the MDA.

tovaxin_lab_rat 04-03-2008 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitt (Post 250551)
***
Aren't we Jerry's Kids?!!??


Hi, I cannot specifically find MS listed on the MDA site but I know they help with funding for research and such. There are around 40 diseases covered by the MDA. [/quote]

No Kitt...Kicker was teasing :eek:...we are not part of the MDA...MS is completely different disease than MS. But people often confuse the two. MS vs MD. :D

sassy 04-03-2008 06:54 PM

My cousin's wife said she has MS, but goes to an MD clinic..what? So, I looked up her "rare form of MS" and low and behold she has MD. So, she's one of Jerry's kids but I'm not.

Should I tell her at the family reunion she doesn't have MS?

OOPS, I just hijacked...sorry!

Kitt 04-03-2008 07:06 PM

MS and MD
 
No Kitt...Kicker was teasing :eek:...we are not part of the MDA...MS is completely different disease than MS. But people often confuse the two. MS vs MD. :D[/QUOTE]


Yup, I know it is. For the most part MS is an autoimmune disease and MD is a dystrophy. And CMT is an inherited atrophy. Thanks much:winky: I know there are quite a few people who do not know the difference. And thanks for cluing me in on Kicker:D

Kitt 04-03-2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassy (Post 250872)
My cousin's wife said she has MS, but goes to an MD clinic..what? So, I looked up her "rare form of MS" and low and behold she has MD. So, she's one of Jerry's kids but I'm not.

Should I tell her at the family reunion she doesn't have MS?

OOPS, I just hijacked...sorry!


What kind of MD does she have? Just curious. And, I'm not sure what you mean when you say you "just hijacked". Hope I'm not doing something wrong:(

Snoopy 04-04-2008 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitt (Post 250893)
I'm not sure what you mean when you say you "just hijacked". Hope I'm not doing something wrong:(


Your fine, Kitt.

Hijacked is when a thread goes "off topic" (moves away from) the original topic intentionally or unintentionally.

My feelings on this: it happens, some threads take on a life of their own and to me it's not a big deal.

Brenda, your cousin might be confused about her diagnosis. You might talk to her about it - gently.

Kitt 04-04-2008 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopy (Post 251140)
Your fine, Kitt.

Hijacked is when a thread goes "off topic" (moves away from) the original topic intentionally or unintentionally.

My feelings on this: it happens, some threads take on a life of their own and to me it's not a big deal.


Thank you so much Snoopy:) I can understand what you are saying when you say the thread goes "off topic". Thanks so much:D:icon_cool:

sassy 04-04-2008 05:55 PM

Actually she has CMT, Kitt, which I see in your signature that you have it too? And so, when I searched I see it isn't actually MD either. Am I correct?

Snoopy 04-04-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassy (Post 251531)
Actually she has CMT, Kitt, which I see in your signature that you have it too? And so, when I searched I see it isn't actually MD either. Am I correct?

Brenda,

Neuromuscular diseases in the MDA program - CMT is listed
http://www.mda.org/disease/

Yet, CMT is listed as a neurological disorder -
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/c...arie_tooth.htm

I am certainly confused.

MooseasaurusRex 04-04-2008 06:11 PM

:hug:A vote of solidarity and a big hug for you and DD's efforts on spreading the word on MS.

Kitt 04-04-2008 07:02 PM

Explanation --
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sassy (Post 251531)
Actually she has CMT, Kitt, which I see in your signature that you have it too? And so, when I searched I see it isn't actually MD either. Am I correct?


I certainly don't know everything but here is some information. I know it's long. CMT is the most common inherited neurological disorder and it is found worldwide. It affects the PNS; outside the CNS. It is rare, so to speak, to start with compared to other diseases. CMT affects around 1 in every 2500 (some experts are saying it's closer to 1 in 2000, others suggest it's closer to 1 in 3000), and we are talking about 4 or 5 cases known within a rare disease where there are 6.6 billion people on this planet. There are a number of types of it that they have found. The CMT 1's and CMT 2's carry the 50/50% chance for each child to inherit it if you have it. Symptoms vary greatly even within the same family. You can be young, old, or in-between when symptoms appear or they may never be that evident but you still can pass it on. CMT 1A is what around 70% of the people have who have CMT. No one, not even a doctor can predict how a person with CMT will end up. It is a very complicated syndrome with many different types. DNA blood testing has been available since 1993 thru Athena Diagnostics. The disease had a name since it was discovered in 1886 by Charcot-Marie-Tooth, the three doctors. Jean-Martin Charcot, Pierre Marie and Howard Henry Tooth. Did you know that Charcot also discovered ALS and MS and Charcot Foot (nothing to do with the CMT foot) and some other diseases. One of his students was Sigmond Frouide (sp). So very much has now been learned about it in just the last 12-15 years. Before that, it was just CMT or Peroneal Muscle Atrophy. They have discovered 33 genes and there is testing for 10 and there are 44 not discovered as of yet.

CMT is an atrophy and MD is a dystrophy. CMTers are born with healthy muscles and the defect is in the nerves that control the muscles. Signals cannot get to the muscles like they should because of holes in the myelin and so the muscles atrophy. That is type 1. In type 2 the nerve itself is diseased and so the muscles atrophy. MD is a disease directly of the muscle itself (you probably know this). CMT is often misdiagnosed as a variety of other ailments including MS , Polio, Fredericks Ataxia, etc. Even though CMT is not MD it is under the MD umbrella as they say along with around 40 other diseases. There is much research going on and again it is complicated.

Yes, I do have CMT and can trace it way back. Thank you for giving me the chance to try and explain a complicated disease:winky:


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