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What do YOU do when there is really Nothing you WANT to do??
I googled this question and came up with this. The closest thing I could to what I am actually feeling. I am NOT unhappy, I get a little lonely sometimes but daily, I do O.K.
http://ask.metafilter.com/84087/What...lly-want-to-do Of course this guy is 23 and Most of what he says doesn't apply to an Older person like myself but some of it does. I find that if I make a list of things I Should do, I rarely do them all in the specifide time I give myself. I used to do in One day what it takes me a week to do nowand I really Don't Care either when I don't get everything done. Which is Very ODD for me. I talked to a friend in her 70's and she said that as we age our priorities shift. I have no big plans, I never did. Life just sort of Happened TO me. I dealt with things I NEVER wanted to have to deal with. I feel like the life I have lived is NOT the life I wanted eventhough I really HAD no big plans. Anyone else feel like this? :o |
Sometimes..Sort of..How's that for an answer? :o
I had plans..Not BIG plans by most people's standards, I suppose, but still..I feel fortunate to have accomplished them up to this point..It's the "where do I go from here" I haven't quite answered yet. Depression isn't a big problem, I'm pretty happy overall, but I don't want to let myself get too "comfortable", if you know what I mean. Just because I have this ridiculous disease doesn't mean I have to stop making plans. I may have to revise those plans occasionally, but then I had to do that even before MS, so that's not new. Back to your original question..What do I do when there's really nothing I WANT to do? I guess I take my time, do a few small things, and give thought to where I want to go from here. If I figure out where that is, I'll be posting it here! :D |
interesting question, it seems like I never have free time always something to do,
but what do you do when you dont want to do anything, i guess i crash out or zone out at history channel like i said occasionally i couch potato it and find its good for the soul to zone out once in a while, interesting question Wiix |
Thanks both of you for giving Some kind of answer. This is a Simple question but NOT an easy question. As far as "Zoning Out". I think I already AM in a constant state of Zone Out to begin with. I am in my own little world here. I go for months sometime Years without having any kind of Real life Human interaction aside from the cashier at the grocery or the desk clerk at the library and I don't seem to care.
Do we reach a point in our lifes when we've DONE everything we are going to do and there is nothing left to want because everything we had is gone and there is NO chance in Hell of anything New coming into our life?? Do we reach a point where there is no point to wanting anything or needing anyone or caring about anything?? I don't even CARE what I eat anymore. I just grab anything that's here and sometimes I don't even go BUY food when I need to. The laundry piles up, I don't care, Screw it, I say some days. I am not mad or upset about anything. I don't want to do anything or go anywhere or try to think of anything to do. Do we get to a point when all the things we liked are DONE. Any possibility of anything happening to make a change doesn't really matter, I'm just Tired of everything. I keep thinking about my family that is Gone, a daughter I will never see again because of her mental problems, a grand daughter who I haven't seen in 5 years, growing up without a "Na", that's what she called me. I would Like to see her or talk with her on computer but last time that was possible my daughter screwed THAT up. She is my Only blood relative alive and we have Nothing and no possibility of anything, Ever. Is this what getting old IS? I have no one to ask or talk to about it. My sister lost her husband last year and I think she is going soon now too. I EMailed her a few months ago and she never replied. It seems any and all efforts I made at Anything, come to Nothing, No Reply. I don't WANT to be depressed, I don't FEEL depressed, I feel like I am actually seeing things as they truely ARE. Am I going to go on for the rest of my life like this?? I HAVE religion, my own version of what I think God is and I do talk to God sometimes. I ask what to do next, I ask for answers, I get nothing. How can a person in a world with Billions of people feel so isolated and alone? Am I a Freak?? I just don't know anymore, maybe I am. http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/im...nsb/tongue.gif |
I didn't really understand what you were asking/saying from your fisrt post, but I get it a little more from your second.
Sometimes I don't feel the joy anymore like I used to. Sometimes it feels like the best is behind me. I just try to stay busy. Try to not think about it, not look back or ahead, just look at right now, at the task at hand. Get up, take a shower, eat, read, feed the dogs. Life is not a parade. It's not a load of laughs and constant smiles. But when I do see that cashier, I figure her life is not a parade either. Maybe I can say something nice, amke her laugh, make her day better. And that makes my day better too. One laugh at a time and I come out of it until things don't seem so bad. You never know what's ahead. You don't have to plan them they just happen. But they're not going to just walk into your kitchen, you have to go find them, and see them when they happen. I have to open my eyes to them, if you know what I mean. I have to be in the frame of mind to be able to do that. :hug: I hope you find that. |
Hi Wiix, I am sorry to read your post about what life has dealt you up to now. This may sound preachy but I am going to throw it out there anyway.
You say you have your religion and talk to God sometimes. Talk to Him more. And listen more, this was hard for me. Try to find a good welcoming church (you may have to visit several till you find the one that fits) and open yourself up to making new friends. You will be surprised to find that there are others that are also looking for someone to laugh and just be happy with. God has done some amazing things in my life in the last year and when I read your post I could relate so much but that was then and this is now. I hope you find some meaning and more importantly that human interaction that means so much. ...Sue |
Hey Wiix .. I definitely know where you are coming from ... and I agree with Snoozie, BGB, Frank and Polar ..
I use to go a 100mph a day ... and still have more on my to-do list ... I would keep adding and adding .. and do them ... then I got MS (or had it - and it finally said, ENOUGH!) this last year was tough - trying to figure out what to do ... then around christmas time, I decided that no one is going to tell me what to expect - so now I can do what I want and no one can say 'didly-squat' .. when someone says something, I just tell them that this is how I'm handling my dx - and doing okay. be GOOD to yourself .. I decided to return back to school (online) to finish my masters ... and been enjoying the camaraderie with participating with others (as I enjoy this site) ... doesn't matter how old you are - start a new project, take a class that peaks your interest - read a new novel from the library.. then write a book review and send it to local small newspapers (they are always looking for new news) ... you don't have to prove anything to anyone ... when you go to the library, check out the DVD movie: Facing the Giants .. it helped me to get a new perspective on life ... and it's all good .. |
I agree with everyone's suggestions. It's hard to try and find a "purpose" some days. Since I do not work any longer it's up to me to find things to do to fill them.
I've found that volunteering and/or helping someone else is a great way to feel better and make a difference in someone else's quality of life at the same time. I tend to analyze things a lot.....like on days when I feel a little down or I'm missing my family members who've passed on I'll sit and watch my bird feeders in the back yard. All kinds of birds and critters come to eat - including a few bunnies and a whole assortment of birds. It never fails - when I'm feeling low a bright red cardinal will come and sit on my porch railing. I take that as a sign from my Dad that everything will be OK. The other evening I was missing my sister terribly and a bunny hopped up to the edge of the storage barn and started eating some of the sunflower seeds I had put out. My sister loved rabbits and collected porceline figurines of them. I took that as a sign from her that life goes on and I will be OK. Then....I burned a pan of dressing and took that as a sign from my mother that I'll never be as good of a cook as she was!!! :D We used to have some good laughs in the kitchen when she was here with us. It's normal to feel sadness and lonliness. If we didn't we wouldn't be human. I just tend to take it one day at a time, do what I feel like I can do, and always remember that there is someone I can help regardless of what my own circumstances are. :hug::hug: |
Herekitty - I get a lot of comfort from the wildlife too. At one point when I rather wondered if I really had any purpose to be (and you all know where that place is...) I was watching a rabbit hop around my yard. She nosed around and found my johnny jump ups and started nibbling on them.
I figured at that moment, if nothing else, I fed one bunny something that day. Nothing earth shattering, no cure for cancer, lol. But there was a reason I existed if I wanted to look at it that way. I try to see it that way now. Maybe I can't always make the world the way I want it to be so I try not to think of life on those terms. I try to think what I can do to make it somehow better for some one, because that does make it better for me too. |
When I started this thread yesterday, I WAS in pretty BAD shape. Today was a little better. Those TERRIBLE days come, usually when I have done too much physically the day before. I just don't have the energy I used to or the strength. I did today what I Couldn't DO yesterday because I just didn't have the physical strength to. I did what Needed doing today, 2 sinksful of dishes, a little vacuuming around my desk but I still haven't cleaned up the Damned laundry all over the place, maybe toninght I will just say "I'll give it 15 minutes of sorting and folding and putting stuff when it needs to be. I think that'd at Least make a dent in the Avalanche. ;) I will give it a whole hearted effort tonight.
I get so tired and I can't sleep. I just lay there until 4 or 5 and see it start to get light out. I then fall asleep. I have only EVER lost a night's sleep once and I was so dizzy the next day I was falling down all over the place. That was when my daughter was an infant. I think it is the Epilepsy. I was only diagnosed with it about 10 years ago. I KNEW something wasn't right, I mean, in my head. Visual distubances, audio distubances, balance problems, dizziness. I have Always been like this even as a kid. Going out around people in crowds as in church is not an option. I get sick easily and stay sick for months. I have a Terrible immune system. I HAVE tried over and over and over again but each time I got sick it got worse and worse. Two years ago it almost killed me. I can be with a one or two people at a time and they CAN'T be sick or I catch it. Please don't try to tell me to keep doing that. At this point in my life I think I KNOW what happens to me when I go out around crowds. It has been a life long problem. I remember my mother yelling at me because I was sick and my husband making me fell guilty everytime I got sick. This trickled down to my daughter too. I have always been sickly. It's terrible not being able to breathe and having someone yelling at you while you are coughing up blood. I think I have had the Worst people in my life. I said that to my sister once and she got mad. I told her I had the Wrong family. I was the baby and no one was there for me. Everyone was off doing their own thing. I do believe I was just a throw away child. Now I am just a throw away grown up. I am not sad about this revelation. I just wish I could have understood all this a long time ago and not been so understanding of others Always putting me last. I have never been a demanding person, I just wanted what was rightfully mine and never got it. I feel very cheated. I don't hurt anymore about it. I think my heart is finally grown calloused but I still DO Love my animals. They were always there when no human was. Maybe I need a new pet. I just lost one a few weeks ago, he died but I still have his mate, a female iguana, that I Love dearly. :hug: I can talk to her about this problem but I don't get any answers. :p BUT she is a Very Good Listener. :winky: |
I wish there was something I could say that would turn things around for you, Wiix..:hug: You have had a lot of challenges to overcome, and you have overcome them! You're a Very Important Person here, and a terrible immune system doesn't change that. Whatever you decide to do (or not do :)), enjoy the day! Now..I'm gonna try take some of my own advise..
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Yea, I know, it's Very limiting. Ihave to either work out alone in my house OR go for a walk OUTSIDE by myself. It's hard to find a walking buddy.
I think I came to a conclusion this morning about my mental state. I think what is going on with me is an old term "BURN OUT". I can hear Kramer on Seinfeld, in my head saying "I'm Burned Out Man, I Need my massage!" A massage WOULD be so nice but recently have been out of my price range. I used to get them almost every week when I was married, I NEEDED them along with a subtantial amount of alcohol to put up with the JERK. After 13 years of HIM, anyone would be Burned Out. I wanted OUT after 5 years but THOUGHT things would get better if I stayed, BIG MISTAKE!! It almost ended with a Murder, MINE. :o I am going to make a list of things that I Should do today and if I get them done, well, good for me. :winky: Me First though. Long, hot shower, a nice breakfast, some Irish tea and something Sweet. :hug: Maybe TRY to get out in the sun for a bit. |
I will not tell you to go out and be around crowds of people who will make you feel sick, and in turn that will make you feel worse about life in general.
You DO deserve to live YOUR life as you see fit. I am glad you have your iguana to talk to. (I had a few of them, and they can be great companions) :) There are days that if it weren't for my pets, I'd feel completely alone in this life. And I thank God for every little furry, scaley, wingy thing that has come into my life. They do not ask for more than food and water and a decent place to be. They don't judge you based on how good yu look, how clean your house is, or how much money you have. They don't care if you're witty, a good hostess, or have the latest fashions, lol. They do listen when you talk. They do make you laugh, snuggle with you, are there for you all the time, in your worst times, and to share your best times. And if my only purpose on this earth is to make life better for them, to pull a few puppies from shelters, to feed papaya to my Jake, to offer sugar to a few hummingbirds and plant a flower for some butterflies, that suits me fine. Give that iguana some cabbage for me, and a hug too. And tell her she makes today a little better. You know, to the world, you may be only one person, but to one person (or iguana) you may be the whole world. :hug: |
Wow Wiix. I read your post and thought I had typed it!
I am the youngest of 5 kids. I too have always felt I was in the wrong family. My mother got pregnant with me by mistake. (I was born 9 years after the 4th child) So my mother never bonded with me. My oldest sister was 11 when I was born and she pretty much took care of me. She even tells me she feels she's my mom. I was on Avonex for 4 years. It lowered my WBC and weakened my immune system to the point that if I was around anyone sick I would catch it. So I totally understand having to isolate yourself because of your immune system. I had been going to church since 1989. The last church I attended for over 3 years. I served in various forms, prepared meals for sick ppl, catered the womens conference, etc. Then one time I was having to have a steriod treatment b/c I had been sick all winter from the weakened immune system. DH told several women in the church I would be having the treatment and asked if they'd call and check on me. The steriods are very hard on my body. I lay on the couch all week. No one called. The following week I was feeling better. Then someone did call....to ask me to prepare a meal for someone in the church who was sick. I told the woman I wasn't feeling so well myself. I haven't been back to church since. I went off the Avonex and for the past two years haven't had a cold since. Unfortunately I live next door to a nut job who came into my backyard a couple months ago and attacked me. I had an MS attack because of it. (I can't prove it was b/c of the attack, but I KNOW it was) Had MRIs done and my MS doctor called and wants me back on meds. It makes me so angry to think I was doing so well and b/c of this nut job I have to decide if I can endure going back on meds. I don't have the strength to save the world. I don't even have the strength to save me most of the time. If I'm able to keep up w/ the housework I feel like I've accomplished something. But then I wonder, this is what my life is for?....housework? I too love to sit outside and watch the birds and animals. I have a bunny too that lives in my yard. I try to be grateful I have a roof over my head and food to eat. I too have realized I wasn't living in reality. That I thought my life was one way, but the last few months I've realized how my life really is...and how some of my relationships really are. Next week I'll be married 13 years. I'm seeing my DH and our relationship in a whole new 'light'. It's been very...sobering. I get my social interaction via the internet (emails, forums) or by phone. Right now at least that's all my strength will allow. If you were a healthy person my advice would be to get out and find some kind of interaction with others. But what can you do when you're not a healthy, normal person and you can't interact with others normally? Maybe hearing a voice would help. Maybe getting some phone numbers of people you chat with online and talking on the phone with them would help some. You are definitely not alone in your feelings. And you definitely aren't alone :grouphug: |
Actually just talking about all this with you wonderful, sensitive people IS helping me feel SO much better.
Unless YOU have actually experienced the "Going out to be with people then getting SICK for MONTHS because of it" Syndrome, you really can't understand the total feeling of Hopelessness. I used to have a lot of friends as a teen but my Mother interfered with everyone of them and I lost all my friends. Friends I should be able to have contact NOW with but I have No idea where they are anyway. But that ship has sailed. I think about how I would like to go to a museum or live theatre or a Festival but first off I don't like going alone and second I don't KNOW anyone who would go with me and third, I'd Probably end up sick and is it worth it? :( Kind of a Dead End, isn't it? Yes, I know what you mean about just keeping up with what needs doing in the house is such a chore sometimes, no MOST of the time. It's just OLD. I've done everything THOUSANDS of times already, it has JUST lost it's charm. :o Pleasure from just doing simple things is eluding me these days. I also had a sister but she was 13 years older than me and she left home when I was 5 so I really have no memory of her and I as siblings. My Mother had 7 pregnacies but only 4 children, me being the last one born but she was TIRED and Worn out by then and really sort of pawned me off to neighbors and friends most of the time. She worked and travelled a lot so I hardly ever saw her. I don't remember any "Tender" times with her. I think I was just in her way and a bother. she didn't want me. she SAID she did but her actions told me otherwise. Yet when I had My daughter she was right there for HER. Which upset me tremendously to see her doing things for her that she never did for me and pushing me aside during the whole thing. My mother was NOT very nice to me at all. I will NEVER get over it either. |
I totally understand about the mother issue.
God designed us to have a bond w/ our mother and when that doesn't happen it is practically impossible to 'fix'. You're dealing w/ some very deep wounds. But I understand them. :hug: |
When I don't have anything to do, I'm usually on the net or one of the rooms. Thats why I asked, how come no one hardly goes in the chat rooms :(
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Wiix and Baxter...
:grouphug: That is SOOOO sad about your mothers! I was also the youngest - of six! - and my oldest brother was 12 yrs old when I was born. But I was lucky. I felt close to and loved by my mom. I can't imagine what that must have been like for you two. I think my mom clung so tightly to me because my father died right after I was born. She needed the comfort, you know? I'm also lucky that my immune system is like fort Knox, lol. I never get nothing but weird disorders nobody can dx or treat. :rolleyes: So I'm home alot too. But you know, you can tour the Louvre at home( online)? I checked that out... very cool, if you want to do that. I bet other museums are online too. And you can watch some movies, TV shows, and stuff like that. Just search em up. No germy people. And your bunny and iguana can come too - even better. I like to set up my laptop with a movie in my bird room and watch a show with my birds once in a while. You wouldn't believe how much they enjoy that. :) They especially love the popcorn and stuff, lol. The dogs don't care about these things, but birds love Pirate movies. :p |
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I just read the posts by Wiix & Baxter. Wiix, I have epilepsy. Do you know or think you do? Either way, you should see your neurologist. Maybe he can find a certain thing that needs looking at, to help you 'feel better' and you then can try different meds to help you. Also, I know what it's like to 'not have a mom'. My mom died of cancer 3 months before my 9th birthday. But perhaps you'd say it's worse to have a mom who doesn't seem to care. I was too embarrassed to ask my dad 'girl stuff' & a mom coulda helped. All sorts of little things. When I was going to get married, so was my GF. Her, her mom & I went to the bridal salon when she tried on her dress, when she was putting it on & said "Here mom, hold my watch" I started to cry cuz I knew I'd never be saying that to my mom. I'm home alone alot too. (BTW, I'm 50) Mostly my kids are at school, work or out w/friends and I can't look forward to my DH coming home cuz many times he is out of town. (June 2 he starts his longest trip....till mid. Sept. Only able to come home every other weekend.) I don't drive & as I said, my kids are usually not home to take me places. So I go without. I too am close my one of my dogs. One mostly lays on the coach all day but my other one is great. She is so soft, like my big live stuffed animal. I talk to both of them too. I had a terrible ache in my head & it hurt so much, they looked & knew something was wrong, your pets can 'read you'. Cheer up hun.
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Thanks lor. Meet me in the chatroom, ok?
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Life happens as it will.
We can exercise, travel, make plans, have an agenda...etc and so forth BUT we don't have total control over the way things play out. Having said that we do have some control which is up to us to exercise it. As to life not always playing out as you want; I don't think that's all that unusual. My mom said, after my dad passed on, "where did all those years go to? It seems like just yesterday that we began our lives together". Time is what we have on our hands today and tomorrow. It is not easily understood as we look back. So we look ahead, taking the lessons we remember from the past along with us. Doesn't all the life you lead in the past seem small when you try to measure it:rolleyes:. Live each day for the day it is. The 'rest of your life' is what happens from this moment on. Look for interesting things that you enjoy and if it's not housekeeping than do the minimum and get to the stuff you like. Tootsie:) |
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My daughter and I have no contact now and it really does bother me. She was just another link in the chain, the initial link started WAY before I was even born with my mother and her mother and probably her mother before that. It seems that the Mothers and Daughters in my family always HAVE had Serious issues. The ***** landed on me and I really had No control of any of it. My daughter was also part of it. She resents me because she saw what it was doing to me but she didn't understand. She only saw what affected her. She didn't realize she was watching my destruction and only cared about how it affected her. I was DROWNING and I need help but got none. If ONE person in my family had just given me a little help things would have turned out differently but instead it was just the opposite. They contributed to my destruction. It's been almost 20 years since it all ended and I am still trying to get over it all. It's been ONLY in the past year that I have been able to fall alseep WITHOUT locking my bedroom door. Quote:
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Well, talking about all that helped. I know I haven't been in this thread in a while but I seem to be doing a little better. I needed to calm down. I find I get so wound up with myself that I turn into a nervous wreck and wear myself out. Then I can't sleep and little things loom Very Large in my mind. I have been trying to sleep more. I mean take more naps, TRY to doze off earlier at night and stay in bed later in the morning and hopefully get a bit more sleep and it seems to be helping.
Plus during the day I don't make ridiculously long lists of things I MUST get done that day. I stick to one or two of the things I really should do and that is working out much better. I don't know why I am so hard on myself. It's just ME here. I don't have to Prove anything to anyone. :o Things get done. Even if it's a few days or a week later it still gets done. Plus the fact I've been dabbling in a little more "Chocolate" lately. ;) :D That seems to help. :wink: |
((((wiix))))
there you have it. the perfect answer. just eat chocolate. works for me. :D |
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