DETOX PATCH?? What are your Experiences OR Opinions?
 

I have seen them advertized and am seriously considering trying them. Build up of toxins I certainly believe can make you feel like CRAP, especially as we get older.


I sounds plausable that toxins can be drawn OUT of the body this way but is it for real or is it a scam?? I mean these pads are saturated with herbs that draw toxins out overnight.


They are quite expensive. $20. just for 5 nights worth. I might be tempted to try one package. Instructions say to use them every night for a month then once a week after that BUT thats $240. :eek: 5/30 = 6 X $20. = $240. :eek:

I saw one site TELLING it is soaked with Wood Vinegar. Now if that is all it is don't you think making them yourself would be a lot cheaper?? I mean LOOK at this site:

" Exper harmful dampness
Relieve pain and reduce swelling
Cleanse the blood
Improve the activty of heart
Promote healthy blood circulation
Enhance body immune system
Dissipate fatigue
Feel more energetic
Improve the quality of sleep


Particularize:
Detoxification Theory

Toxic accummulation can lead to disease, When the waste products in our body reaches an excessive level, they can cause fatigue, restlessness or other health problems.

We are constantly bombarded by pollutants from our surrounding environment and toxins in our food and drink. If not eliminated, they become toxic waste that accumu lates in our bodies and contributes to all kinds of diseases and chronic tiredness. Accumulated toxic waste tend to bog down all body systems so that it makes the organs, joints and tissues of body become prone to inflammation. As bacteria begins to thrive, disease come into being. In order to stay healthy and vigor, and to keep away from many kinds of degenerative disease, we should regularly cleanse our bodies of accumulated toxins.

The soles of feet are the second heart of body and they are reflexive zones of the body's internal organ the system.

Use instruction

1. Place the plaster on the painful area directly, such as foot, neck, shoulder, elbow, waist and knee.

2. Place the plaster on the painful area together with sole reflection area, it will be more effective. "


http://www.diytrade.com/china/4/prod...d_vinegar.html

Same thing?? But a lot Cheaper.

do some google searches.

they are a hoax.

even my local tv station did a segmant on these and the foot soaks.

I intend to do more Searching AND get some of this wood vinegar and some pads and TRY this myself. I will let you know how it goes. I am thinking there MAY be some validity to the principle but the Prices for these things ARE outrageous, THAT may just be the SCAM part.

Well, according to this site, these patches can be used anywhere on the body for Pain Relief:


O.K.,

EACH PACKET CONTAINS 10 PADS WITH 10 ADHESIVES

Buy 1 through 3 packets for $20 for each packet

Buy 4 through 9 packets for $18 for each packet

Buy 10 through 19 packets for $16 for each packet

HERE you get one month's worth for $20. That is way more reasonable. I MIGHT order one from this site.

http://genesismetabolic.com/?p=20
Published in The Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, Volume 20 Fourth Quarter, 2005 Number 4.


see what a scientific study had to say.

imo sure wouldn't take anything a site that sells these things has to say.

AND what is THAT site selling?? Hair Analysis Kits?? :wink:

wiix, can i ask you why you use caps?

on forums it's meant as yelling and can be very offensive. i don't feel i posted any thing worth being yelled at for.

just curious.

I agree with Curious. It sounds like snake oil to me.

Capitilizing the first letter of the first word of a sentence is good grammar. I sometimes will put a word in all caps for emphasis. If a person types an entire sentence or paragraph or post ALL in caps then that is considered yelling. Yes, I am aware of that.

I for sure am not trying to offend anyone with my style of typing.

If you want to try the patches, go to lakesidecollection. Search for patches. You get a 2 weeks supply for about $15.00. I'm not sure if they work, I have tried Aqua Chi at the local health store. After 30 minutes, it was nasty. I did feel better for about 3 or 4 days. I may go back and try it again.

Thanks Ws. I did post a link that sells them at $20. for a month's worth. I seriously think it has some merit, I mean the idea of this thing. There is such a thing as a drawing slave used for boils that I believe works on the same premise. I remember having a boil once when I was a kid and my Mum used it on me. We were able to pull out the core after the salve had been on it for a day or two. Then it immediately improved. I'll never forget that. It was like a long, beaded string she pulled out with tweezers. I watched the boil go down immediately. It must coil around inside it. Boils are Nasty things. :o

I'm going this weekend to try the Aqua Chi again. If it works, I'll let you know.

Can you take pics??? :confused: Before we Know is white but after?

See, the reason I want to give this a fair shot IS.................. I have skin problems. Someone explained to me that your skin is by some people thought of as a third kidney. If you are loaded with toxins your regular 2 kidneys can't get rid of all it will show up on your skin. I have this horrible cystic acne and cysts. I tried Uva Ursi and it did nothing. I drink EXTRA water everyday and TRY to eat only natural foods and so far it's not helping the condition. IF this is a possible improvement for my condition, I will give it a try.

Yes, I will take before and after pictures and will post them after. I am more than happy to share. I have read some of the board and it is amazing how much knowledge the board has on FMS. I also can't believe no one is willing to give the patches or alternate medicine. It may or may not help. But it never hurts to try. The only thing you loose is a little bit of money. Most of us waste more than the $20 for a month supply.

I would read that link
 

Curious put up carefully....

The experiment showed that heavy metals are present in
the patches and "go someplace" after use.... and that someplace is into YOU most likely.

So not only are these bunkum.... they might even poison you!

Typically drugs cross into the body thru the skin, when a patch or covering is in place. This is how patches with nicotine, pain relievers work.
Also some dermatologists have people put saran wrap over some medicated ointments to DRIVE the active ingredients INTO the skin and body.

These patches already contain heavy metals, and by occluding the skin those may enter YOU --an unwelcome result!

What does it hurt to try though? We all have to live with this and the fact there is no cure--just pain management. I don't think it hurts to try it. I understand what the article said. However, it doesn't hurt to try different things, it may help. If not, then it can't make it worse.

I do have a few fillings yet so Maybe these will help:

http://www.whale.to/v/cassel.html

:confused: Plus I smoked for a long time and did eat quite a bit of fish in my life, not so much now. And since the world uses the oceans and lakes as dumping ground/toilets I can see where all this is coming from and why people have so many heath problems. I don't take very many drugs, not even prescription drugs now, maybe earlier in my life when I was unaware but not so much now.

I had a friend, he passed away at 56, but he was always at the doctor and took whatever they told him to take. His kidneys were shot by the time he was 50 and was on dialysis for the last 8 years of his life. All these drugs people take thinking they will help just burn up your organs. It's really such a shame. Like lambs to the slaughter. Just my opinion. :(

I try to stay away from doctors as much as possible. Usually whatever is wrong gets better in time. I do go IF I am bleeding or have an infection though or a broken bone but I have never actually been helped with the broken bones. When I broke my arm in 2 places, I didn't have insurance and couldn't afford treatment but eventually that healed, I just had to fashion a sling and take it easy for a few months but that did heal too. That was a rough few months, I'll tell ya since I live alone and had no help. I cried alot.:o

When I fell in the bathtub and cracked my skull and face, THAT was also rough. I broke bones in my middle ear and was SO off balance for such a long time and my face is still numb from that and that was in 89.

When I got Shingles, I got NO medication for the pain. Doctor at ER said, "Oh, just take Tylenol, you'll be alright." WRONG!!!! :mad: I did get some oxycodone from a sympathetic friend who KNEW I was in agony and couldn't sleep but that is last prescription drug I have taken and that was in 96.

So, my experiences with doctors have not been very positive. I am FOR alternative medicine.

See, I am willing to give it a try. Since the skin absorbs but it also excretes. These heavy metals MAY be drawn OUT of you.

How many drugs do people take prescribed by doctors that later are found harmful and are pulled off the market? How many lawsuits, I mean Class Action lawsuits do you see advertized of the telly?? They say: " If you took So and so Drug and have experienced Blah, Blah Blah, you May be entitled to money damages."

Well, I ordered them. They should be here today or early next week. I do plan on doing a little TEST.

I will take pics as I go along. Now if they actually do draw heavy metals OUT of your body then let's just see what happens if I put one on a heating pad. I want to see if these things turn colour just because of the heat from your body. The colour change is a chemical reaction of some kind and if it's ONLY from heat, well, there ya go. :rolleyes: We'll see. I am hoping for a favourable outcome though. :winky:

Gee, I ordered them almost 2 weeks ago now and I still haven't got them. :o I also ordered a few OTHER things too which still aven't shown up yet. I wonder what's up. Usually when I order stuff online I get it within a week. :confused:

Well, it's been a month since I made my online order. They NEVER arrived and I was charged for them on my credit card. I did TRY to contact the site but it is no longer there. I spoke to my credit card company and they removed the charge and are going to investigate.

In the meantime, I found this. Very interesting but still hasn't put me OFF the idea of trying them. I think I will just go to my local Walgreens and buy them. Here IS an actual test someone did. Good site too:

http://www.themockdock.com/category/kinoki-foot-pads/

Hoax
 

They are a hoax plain and simple. If you want to use them fine. Go for it. I'm not wasting my money products that play to peoples desperation.

At this point their is no cure for chronic pain. period.

Pam

I am not desperate, just curious. And as far as chronic pain goes, I've had my share over the years and usually a change in nutrition and lifestyle activities did way MORE to alleviate the problem than drugs did. I have gone both routes for the same problems.

I think our environment is to blame for many of people's ailments and just masking the pain with drugs doesn't really help in the longrun. I prefer getting to the Cause of the pain rather than masking it. Pain is just our body telling us something is wrong, chronic or acute.

BUT these detox pads really do have me curious. I still haven't bought any though. I keep forgetting but eventually when all the planets allign, I will. ;):p

Wiix...glad you answered. I thought LSC was a little out of line with the wording. I've said it before and I'll say it again, don't knock someone else for trying something. Half of the battle we face is the mental battle dealing with the ups and downs of the pain and just trying to deal and accept.;):p :hug: :grouphug:

We all deal with our own problems they way that is best for us. Everyone has that right and shouldn't be critisized for taking a different path.

:hug::DExactly.

Also curious about detoxing
 

Hi,
Thanks for bring up detoxing.
I have also seen them and wondered if they were for real.
I know that when I drink herbal detox tea it really helps me.
Do they have herbal patches for detoxing?That seems safer to me.
I would be interested in looking into any natural way to detox as it does seem to help with the stiffness and cramps.
Does anyone know what the black tarry med that is used to draw out a boil is called?My hubby's mom used to have some but we can't find it or remember what it is called.It sure worked for boils maybe it would work for detoxing the whole body if used on the foot all night.It would be little messy but if it works then it would be worth the mess.
I know Edgar Casey believed in using a lot of poultices (sp?) for drawing out toxins.Have any of you heard of or tried any of them?I wanted to but the ingredients seemed hard to find, but that was 10 years ago maybe with the internet the things would be easier to find now.I will get out my Casey book tonight and see what the ingredients are for a detoxing poultice.
What are some of the things that you all use to detox with?
Denise

I think that detoxification is right on and not a hoax, though I don't know about the footpads you spoke about earlier.

There are a lot of places now that do footbaths for detox. My chiro does them, but I haven't invested in that technique. My massage therapist, whom I hold high regard for, goes to Des Moines to a therapist there who has the footbath detox. She wants me to go with her sometime to try it.

I have seen the results of one though at my chiros. A woman was having her done and didn't mind if I took a peek before and after her treatment. Holy cow, I could not believe what I saw! ICK! She did get quite sick to her stomach for a period of time but that passed.

I think that's the reason my chiro limits the time one can use them. At the place in Des Moines you can choose your time limit, but you are under the constant supervision of a technician and have to remain there for a short period of time until they know you are okay.

I see it much like when I was much younger, a vegetarian, and frequently did fasts.

Releasing toxins from your body is a good thing and you'd be amazed at the stuff that comes out of your feet in those footbaths! But I think anyone who does them should be prepared for a tummy upset when it's done.

If you do a search for detox footbaths on the internet, you'll find a lot of information.

:hug:

WholeFood farmacy has a liquid fast that is good for detoxing. You can check it out online. When my father was dying of lung cancer, he had gangrene in his feet. We took a healing clay, and used it like a poultice. We applied it several times a day. And within a week, it cleared up. It works really good for pulling out toxins. We use to use that black stuff too. And I can't remember the name of it. I will ask somebody. My mother also uses clay when she starts to have a flare of her Ulcerative colitis. She will drink it mixed in water. You can buy it in a health food store. I hope this helps.

the foot baths with the electrodes are a hoax. so are the patches.

detoxing is a good thing, but you won't do it by these 2 methods.

there are a few threads on nt, with very legit scientific backed research.

that "black salve"
 

has become obsolete-- haven't seen it in years!

It was called Ichthammol

It is derived from coal tar... which is implicated in skin cancer.
Coal tar is still available but dermatologists are not using it as frequently as before.

I found this review:
 

Of how the color changes occur in the ionic foot baths:

http://reviews.ebay.com/Scam-the-rea...:-1:LISTINGS:1

It also discusses the foot pads.

YouTubes that reveal the hoax: detoxifying a "carrot"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJNnT...eature=related
part 1

Part 2: electrolysis explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZZbc2YRnM&NR=1

Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkBeY...eature=related
This video has examples of what people expect from this

part 4: explains electric current settings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOyea...eature=related

Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butG_...eature=related

Kinoki foot pads debunked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma7-nbrOwzQ

Thanks for that info, but I'm not 100% that the detox baths are a hoax.

I'll go with Christina to Des Moines sometime and check it out for myself. These places that do these invest in some pretty high dollar equipment, that's for sure. Would hate to think it's a 'hoax'.

But yeah, I think drinking helps a lot to detox, flush out bad stuff.