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ladyhellmuth 07-20-2008 03:12 PM

My new doc is a quack!
 
Hey guys,
Sorry I haven't been on in a while. The baby just turned 1 in may, and she is demanding a lot of attention. But she still is a great girl.
I had to switch doctors because of insurance, and my regular doc told me that he couldn't treat me anymore so I would have to go to a pain management clinic. One problem, there aren't any that take my insurance, so I called around looking for any doc that was familiar with TOS and was willing to treat me. Most of the docs didn't know what it was, or they just wanted to send me to a surgeon. I finally found one, so I went to see him, and he said, "so what makes you think you have TOS?" I handed him my inch high reports and results and he just glanced through them and said, "TOS is a bullsh*t syndrome that some doctor in Colorado made up to make money." My jaw dropped:eek:, I knew he was referring to Dr. Saunders. He then said "Which arm" so i said both and threw his arms up in the air and said "You are kidding, nobody has TOS in both. Something else is going on" I said OK what do you think it is? Anyway this went on for a while and I told him the meds that I had been on through the years and he pretty much blew me off and made comments that I was depressed and it was all in my head. He sent me home with a presciption for Soma and an anti-inflammitory. He also wanted to do this test called an evoked potential test. The insurance company wanted more info on it, but the doc refused to give them it, so no test was done. He wanted to see me the following week for a re-evaluation. I complied and went back and he insulted me again saying it was in my head, because the meds didn't work.
Again he wanted to see me in a week, but I cancelled that appointment.
I don't need a doctor who is not going to believe me and just insist that I keep coming back every week. He's in it for the money! Not to mention the foul mouth that I have to listen to when I go there.
What do I do now?:confused: I have been off my pain meds for so long that I am really starting to hurt bad.
Thanks for listening to me rant.
Jessica:grouphug:

sabimax 07-20-2008 03:50 PM

evoked potential testing is good though..if you have troubles with limbs...not sure what kind of trouble you have..good luck, sounds like a duck dr though..hugssss,sarah

billy027 07-20-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyhellmuth (Post 327330)
Hey guys,
Sorry I haven't been on in a while. The baby just turned 1 in may, and she is demanding a lot of attention. But she still is a great girl.
I had to switch doctors because of insurance, and my regular doc told me that he couldn't treat me anymore so I would have to go to a pain management clinic. One problem, there aren't any that take my insurance, so I called around looking for any doc that was familiar with TOS and was willing to treat me. Most of the docs didn't know what it was, or they just wanted to send me to a surgeon. I finally found one, so I went to see him, and he said, "so what makes you think you have TOS?" I handed him my inch high reports and results and he just glanced through them and said, "TOS is a bullsh*t syndrome that some doctor in Colorado made up to make money." My jaw dropped:eek:, I knew he was referring to Dr. Saunders. He then said "Which arm" so i said both and threw his arms up in the air and said "You are kidding, nobody has TOS in both. Something else is going on" I said OK what do you think it is? Anyway this went on for a while and I told him the meds that I had been on through the years and he pretty much blew me off and made comments that I was depressed and it was all in my head. He sent me home with a presciption for Soma and an anti-inflammitory. He also wanted to do this test called an evoked potential test. The insurance company wanted more info on it, but the doc refused to give them it, so no test was done. He wanted to see me the following week for a re-evaluation. I complied and went back and he insulted me again saying it was in my head, because the meds didn't work.
Again he wanted to see me in a week, but I cancelled that appointment.
I don't need a doctor who is not going to believe me and just insist that I keep coming back every week. He's in it for the money! Not to mention the foul mouth that I have to listen to when I go there.
What do I do now?:confused: I have been off my pain meds for so long that I am really starting to hurt bad.
Thanks for listening to me rant.
Jessica:grouphug:


Jessica,

What area do you live in? Someone could recommend a Doctor that specializes or at least treats TOS.

astern 07-20-2008 06:06 PM

what a j-e-r-k. :mad:

gibbrn 07-21-2008 01:11 PM

sorry
 
to hear that you had such a bad experience with an totally uneducated physician who is in it for the money.....repeat customers...000000000 due to his nasty attitude! No answers for you but you are in my thoughts and prayers!!!!
love and hugs,
Victoria:hug::hug:

ladyhellmuth 07-21-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy027 (Post 327387)
Jessica,

What area do you live in? Someone could recommend a Doctor that specializes or at least treats TOS.

I live in Sebring Florida. I checked the doctors list, and the docs in florida on the list don't take my insurance. I think I will call my insurance company again and beg them to let me see somebody else.
Thanks to all!

sabimax 07-21-2008 04:58 PM

hugsss again..and good luck, sarah

Junie 07-21-2008 06:00 PM

Mean Doctors suck, and I know, I was a nurse until car wreck took that from me, a good one is hard to find but worth their weight:hug: in gold and I hope you find one soon!!

thursday 07-21-2008 10:05 PM

Man!!! I really hate that you had to waste time and money on this great @#$ of a doctor- not to mention the stress he put you thru- with no relief to boot!!!!!! :icon_mad:
I hope things turn around soon! Hopefully someone will know someone, who knows someone with the same insurance, that has a doctor, that can treat your TOS pain.
Good Luck

Junie 07-21-2008 10:29 PM

I found mine by listening to my SIL run down a Dr that is not afraid to write a Rx. My Sil is a nurse that works with addicts so in her eyes any dr that writes a script for pain meds is horrible! My Dr is very knowledgeable and kind. I do go to a pain Center for the hard stuff:)

dabbo 07-25-2008 01:08 AM

Junie- that just sucks! I hate to hear that their are docs out there like that. I can't believe that they would put you through that and have the nerve to tell you its ALL in your head. I might have lost it at that point and pointed out some of his shortcomings. not productive, but it makes me feel better- temporarily. I hope your ins. can work something out with you.
-dabbo

natrub 07-27-2008 02:27 PM

About 5 years ago I saw a doctor that was almost the same. He was quick and would brush me off. The worst was his office staff. His nurse was like a drill sargent. I use to have nightmares the night before I had to go to his office.

I had botox injections scheduled and my husband actually took me to the appointment because I couldn't drive after. Turns out that my insurance had decided not to cover the botox and the drill sargent starts yelling at me for it and telling me she didn't know why I showed up for the appointment. I had no idea.

My husband fired the doctor right then and there. When you deal with chronic pain you need to have a doctor and staff that are empathetic and will take the time for you.

You need to move on. It took me a while but I finally found doctors that are not only intelligent but compassionate. Don't give up hope.

Noxy 07-27-2008 06:01 PM

Hi Jessica.Sorry to hear about your consult with the unprofesssional. Plus the language is unacceptable.I have TOS in both arms(proven through doppler studies).My dominant arm is the one producing enough symtoms to warrant surgery. I too had a hard time finding a doc.I live in Ontario Canada.Where I live there is only one who luckily I found through my work(xray technologist) .I too heard many who either didn't understand it or who did not believe it exists.But I, you and everyone here knows it does.I have had my rib resection and am back to good health. Keep searching .

ladyhellmuth 08-08-2008 05:53 AM

Update

Well I gave that doc one last try, and he brushed me off. He said if I was willing to pay out of pocket he could write me better prescriptions. I told him that is what I have insurance for and couldn't afford to pay out of pocket. He also suggested physical therapy again. I said it didn't work the last 2 times and I wasn't willing to go through that pain again. He then commented since I wasn't willing to take any of his suggestions that he couldn't help me. He wrote me 2 scripts for Topamax and Furoset and said when I get better insurance come and see him again. Yeah right let me call him again! Thanks alot you quack!!!!!

Thank you all for your kind words and advice. I will keep looking for a doctor that actually cares. I miss Dr. Togut!:(

TraceyW 08-08-2008 02:50 PM

as i read your posts, the pictures of me flooding my last dr's office floor with tears all comes back to me!. he had brushed me off and said it's prob all muscular!.

i hope im now on route to seeing a dr who is actually experienced with tos, and hasnt just read about it...!. However, im not getting my hopes up as its too emotionally draining to be let down again.

Best wishes with your search
x

finz 08-09-2008 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astern (Post 327411)
what a j-e-r-k. :mad:

Close, Astern, but make that capital J E R K !!!!!!!

finz 08-09-2008 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyhellmuth (Post 341760)
Update

Well I gave that doc one last try, and he brushed me off. He said if I was willing to pay out of pocket he could write me better prescriptions. I told him that is what I have insurance for and couldn't afford to pay out of pocket. He also suggested physical therapy again. I said it didn't work the last 2 times and I wasn't willing to go through that pain again. He then commented since I wasn't willing to take any of his suggestions that he couldn't help me. He wrote me 2 scripts for Topamax and Furoset and said when I get better insurance come and see him again. Yeah right let me call him again! Thanks alot you quack!!!!!

Thank you all for your kind words and advice. I will keep looking for a doctor that actually cares. I miss Dr. Togut!:(



I was going to suggest reporting that clown anyways for his rudeness, but now you HAVE to report him........to the medical board in your state, the local hospital that he is affiliated with, and to your insurance company ! You'll get better scripts if you pay privately !?!?! That is criminal !

tshadow 08-09-2008 07:43 PM

I am beginning to think that all doctors are crazy - it's just a matter of how much.

Ask him if TOS is not "real", then what would he call a catastrophic injury to the side of the neck that is barring proper nerve conduction, blood circulation and use of the arm. He can pick the name himself.

tshadow 08-09-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TraceyW (Post 342036)
as i read your posts, the pictures of me flooding my last dr's office floor with tears all comes back to me!. he had brushed me off and said it's prob all muscular!.

i hope im now on route to seeing a dr who is actually experienced with tos, and hasnt just read about it...!. However, im not getting my hopes up as its too emotionally draining to be let down again.

Best wishes with your search
x

Ok, again, let's not quibble about the name, just write down all of your symptoms and allow him / her to call it whatever he wants, but it's TRUE, it's REAL and it's happening to you and damn, it HURTS!!!!


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