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I have a whole lot of things I am FURIOUS about. I have 37 years to scream and stomp about and I don't know where to start........ I don't know if I can start.
I started learning I'm not stupid. That's a giant step for an old woman. Oh, I'm uninformed and uneducated but I'm not stupid. That's a big step and I don't know how to take it.

:hug: you can wren.

you can start right here.

the talent you have is amazing.

i am blessed to have you as a friend. i wish i could take away your pain and frustration. you have a right to be angry.

you have my number. you can call me anytime.

i love you wren. :hug:

July 21, 2008

Quote of the Day
"All growth is a leap in the dark, a spontaneous unpremeditated act without the benefit of experience."
– Henry Miller

Hi Wren,
I was 32 when I found out I was not the stupid barfly (bartender) that was drummed into my head for years...took a course called I can depend on me, then went and passed my GED with flying colors (quit school in 8th grade) then took CAT and passed with flying colors and then went to nursing school and ended up getting award for highest grades in class! Before then I thought it was not possible to be anything but what I was, unskilled and Dependant on a man! It was the greatest feeling in the world...but I had let everyone convince me I was nothing and going no where....now I am disabled, no income since disability has not decided if I suffered enough......but we are never dumb or stupid, I think women have more smarts then the average bear ( no offense guys) :) Rant away,you deserve it, I did my share!

Wren, I am so sorry you have been hurt this way. :hug:

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((Wren)) I only lived with 5 years of hearing I was stupid, uninformed, and uneducated...having it pounded into me emotionally, verbally and physically. But it took many years after that 5 to figure out that I wasn't.

I'm so happy that you have figured this out. After you get over this shock, you can move forward with this newfound 'intelligence' that you thought you didn't have. (But we all knew you did.) ;)

:hug:

Woohoo Wren! Love your can-do attitude! :You-Rock:

You are a worthy recipient of my WHATTAWOMAN award!!! :winner_first_h4h: Congratulations!

Of course you're not stupid. We knew that before you did, silly! You go, girl!

It took me 10 years before I got out of a marriage where I heard that very same thing day after day. Eventually I did start to have faith in myself again. It wasn't easy and it wasn't something that happened quickly, but it did happen.

We care about you Wren. Please take comfort in knowing that we're here for you, to give you all the support that you need, and to remind you that you are a worthwhile individual with an awful lot to give. :hug:

we are proud of you, wren!

((((BIG HUGS))))

much love,

da mois...

I hope you would share some of your beautiful crafts here...:)

((((((((((((Wren))))))))))))))))
The person who tried to convince me that I as stupid ( because girls just are) was my father....it took me years to figure out that he did it to keep me from knowing how much smarter I was than HE WAS....
I am not stupid...and neither are you. Just stupid, mean people trying to make us feel like them.
Glad you know now what everyone here knew all along: you're fantastic.:D

I wonder...well...wait...OK I do wonder but needed to post this here...

I wonder about how I can understand what you guys mean...

that's what happened the other night...

I felt undeserving of anyone's love or affection...that I was an empty shell...that no matter how hard I try or whatever I try to accomplish, it just will NOT be good enough...but good enough for whom?? I am actually quite happy (usually) where I am at in my life...I have a great wife, my mom is the happiest I've seen her in over 30 years, my brothers seem to be emerging from their cocoons...and I, myself, am at a good place, usually...happy with myself about 75% of the time...

then, BOOM...darkness blindsides me..

I kept on telling myself that it is not true yet the dark side just hits heavier...

I felt like Jekyll and Hyde...one minute, I felt like I deserve to be loved and cared about, the next minute, I felt like I just need to be erased forever...

and the panic attacks just set in...

And then I get so embarassed afterwards...then the low self-esteem start to set in then I start to doubt everything that I touch,from my work to my cats....

I hate this damn mind trick that I play with moiself...sometimes, I DO feel like I am a third person to myself...does that make sense??

Then, once I am "out" of it, I examine what I was feeling and I say to myself, "who was that??" "WTF????"

Scary...I know we all have darksides...I just hope I can talk about mine without scaring people off....

((((everyone))))

and thanks: da wife, for being so understanding...:)
somedays, I really really don't know why you put up with moi...but boy, I am NOT complaining!

moi, now you know what it feels like to pms. :o i'm not joking.

i really do understand.

did your head spin around and did you spew green stuff?

maybe it's why moss understands so well. plus you are there in person for her pinch cheeks. :D ( i am not implying moss ever has felt like spewing green stuff or that her head spins around...but maybe she understands pms :o :)...she does if she has read my posts :p)

you can talk about all your sides. this is a good thread for it. i'm waiting for the upside down side to post. ;)

be dark, be funny, be serious. it's a free for all.

just do not get nekkid. :eek: :wink: :p

My DH, Paul, knows what PMS is. He says it stands for Paul Must Suffer. :cool:

Moi, I for one am grateful that you have shared with us :hug:... how can we help our Moi if we don't know? I do understand just what you are feeling...well maybe not "just" as we are unique and our feelings are ours alone, but I do get the gist of it.

I am overwhelmed at times. It started when I got sick. and with each new loss, obstacle I am to overcome......at times these thoughts creep in. The I am done!!! feelings overtake me. Like you when I come out of the "fog" I wonder who the hell that was :eek: I use to try to deal with these alone, but the past few months with my Dads loss, and now facing losing Lynn.. it is too much and Nikki now takes a happy pill :D:p

Your humor is nothing short of a Godsend to me... I can laugh when what I truly want to do is cry. *crying now* I thank you for that Moi:hug::hug:

Twink
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or Putting up with Men's Sh$t

my apologies to all the men here. i should have said Man. one in particular. :wink:

They say all our problems start with men:

MENtal illness
MENtal breakdown
MENstrual cramps
MENopause
GUYnecologist

ummmmm...it's hard for a guy to come back and post after the cybersisters made posts like this...ROFL............................

I have PMS by-proxy.....so there... :p

and....I was born on International Women's day...so double there.... :p

awww shucks moi, we just wanted you to feel real welcome. :p you love us during our off peak times, just as we love you back.

there's a lot a guy like moi can messed up with with this post.

feel, peak, back, love...maybe I should post the gum that Alpho sent moi...

;)

NEVER SAY OFF PEAK to a dude in sequential sentence....:eek:

my Italian friends would hire hitman cause of that....ROFL...

everytime I see or hear sequential, I think of the songs of the Cebu's...ROFL........

can you tell I am in a good mood??? :D

:hug:


it's a good thing I work for myself...I don't know how else I would get any work done...:thud:

HUHWHU!!?? Did you hear what Mr. Sweetcheeks just said!!!??? Hrmmmmmph Cybersisters :D http://home.mchsi.com/~njp/emoticons/plantpull.gif

BMW is thinking of you wren. sending prayers to the sky and healing positive vibs out to you wraped in strenght and courage. I am just starting to believe I am not dumb or helpless. even thought I am kinda on the side lines ..I AM HERE praying and pulling for you. :hug:
Peace
BMW

guess what the caveman has been doing while you are in the cave...

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yep, cybersisters...ROFL......that website still cracks moi up..........

moi on PMS day....

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How many women with PMS does it take to screw in a light bulb?

One. ONE!! And do you know WHY it only takes ONE? Because no one else in this house knows HOW to change a light bulb. They don’t even know the bulb is BURNED OUT. They would sit in this house in the dark for THREE DAYS before they figured it OUT. And once they figured it out they wouldn’t be able to find the light bulbs despite the fact that they’ve been in the SAME CUPBOARD for the past SEVENTEEN YEARS.

But if they did, by some miracle, actually find the light bulbs, TWO DAYS LATER the chair that they dragged from two rooms over to stand on to change the STUPID light bulb would STILL BE IN THE SAME SPOT!! AND UNDERNEATH IT WOULD BE THE CRUMPLED WRAPPER THE STUPID @*!#$% LIGHT BULBS CAME IN! WHY?! BECAUSE NO ONE IN THIS HOUSE EVER CARRIES OUT THE GARBAGE!!

IT’S A WONDER WE HAVEN’T ALL SUFFOCATED FROM THE PILES OF GARBAGE

THAT ARE 12 FEET DEEP THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. THE HOUSE!! IT WOULD TAKE AN ARMY TO CLEAN THIS... I’m sorry... what did you ask me?