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Bearygood 07-21-2008 10:30 PM

Cannibis...to halt PROGRESSION???!!!
 
Well, we know about the uses for symptom management (with mixed reviews) -- but now a study tracking it's effectiveness to stop progression?!?! Actually, a SECOND study! This is the CUPID study but apparently there was an earlier one called CAMS that showed promising results. Completely missed THAT one!

Wow. Clearly I didn't spoke enough pot. Maybe that was my problem. :rolleyes:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0721114608.htm

dmplaura 07-21-2008 10:44 PM

I'm going to ask my neuro what prompted him to ask "Do you smoke pot?" when I was first dx'ed. He didn't proceed to ask about harder drugs. Just the pot question. When I told him "Not in years now", he just went on to family history questions lol.

Perhaps he was going to see if I was already keen on the idea! Hrm? :)

SallyC 07-21-2008 11:02 PM

Just like any other Med, it helps some and not others. Medical MJ should definately be legal..:mad:

Bearygood 07-21-2008 11:05 PM

Sally, did you know about the studies about using it to stop progression (not just sx management)? This was seriously the first I heard about it!

0357 07-22-2008 12:15 PM

I read in 1992 in Time magazine it would slow progression. It was under their medical brief notes...

SallyC 07-22-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 328454)
Sally, did you know about the studies about using it to stop progression (not just sx management)? This was seriously the first I heard about it!

I had read that they were studying MJ for that purpose and that they believed it might, but no proof yet. I'm a little skeptic, but will keep an open mind.....after all, I'm on LDN..:D

I say, if it helps you fight MS, in any way, then...DO IT!!

SandyC 07-22-2008 02:52 PM

We are currently waiting for Illinois to pass the mj law. It's on the books and hasn't been thrown out. Jim and I thought about marching with a group of advocates for mj but then changed our mind. AIN'T no one seeing my face outside of here until its legal! lol

Jim, on the other hand wants to go all the way to Springfield and sit on the steps of the Illinois General Assembly! He's even said he'll offer a live demonstration of how mj helps him when his clonus is acting up. Mercy!

weegot5kiz 07-22-2008 03:07 PM

god bless that man sandy,

it would be nice if they passed the medical MJ there are a few others that could use it glacoma and kemo paitents, will see what happens

Bearygood 07-22-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 328806)
I say, if it helps you fight MS, in any way, then...DO IT!!

I don't like it. :( Even though it's not my cup of tea, I still look forward to any developments in this area with great interest. If they really find evidence that it works, I wouldn't be adverse to doing it.

Now, I'd be a REALLY happy camper though if they found out that a vodka martini could do the same trick! :D

SallyC 07-22-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearygood (Post 328887)
I don't like it. :( Even though it's not my cup of tea, I still look forward to any developments in this area with great interest. If they really find evidence that it works, I wouldn't be adverse to doing it.

Now, I'd be a REALLY happy camper though if they found out that a vodka martini could do the same trick! :D

That's my fav too!!:D

marion06095 07-22-2008 04:46 PM

sigh
 
Here in Connecticut the law passed the House and the Senate, but Governor Rell vetoed it! Sigh.

:(:(:(

GladysD 07-22-2008 05:11 PM

I would love to see a federal overhaul on mj! I can't smoke it anymore...long story, personal choice...BUT...then again, wouldn't an advocate who doesn't smoke it...be a good advocate? ;)

Legalize the stuff for the greater good! Sandy's Jim is a prime example of WHY it should be legal at a federal level! Why should he be limited to where he travels because he can't take his meds with him!

Alright! I'm glad there is a study out there showing that it can stop progression! :) Best of Luck to all the mj bills accross the states...

Bearygood 07-22-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 328916)
That's my fav too!!:D

Sally, here's to you! :partytime2: :D

This is interesting -- there are actually TWO studies being conducted simultaneiously, CUPID and MUSEC:

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/new...x.aspx?nid=205

I also found this, which details some history on research:

http://www.ukcia.org/medical/multiplesclerosis.

SandyC 07-22-2008 06:49 PM

I think we should all move to the UK! haha

Bearygood 07-22-2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyC (Post 329031)
I think we should all move to the UK! haha

Sandy, I know -- isn't it wild that they seem to be leading the charge???

Koala77 07-22-2008 07:44 PM

It's not legal anywhere in this country and not likely to be for a long time, if ever.

I wonder if eucalypt leaves would do the same thing?? :confused:


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SandyC 07-22-2008 07:46 PM

Hmm, maybe Koala. When you try them let us know and we'll be right over Ok? Seriously, I've always wanted to visit!

0357 07-22-2008 09:35 PM

MJ was a legal prescription in the US until Regan...
 
For those with MS they could get their prescription from their doctor and pick up their joints at the pharmacy. What other illnesses were included I do not know but MS was one of them!

dmplaura 07-22-2008 10:10 PM

I have a friend who actually received MJ as pills, not joints, as part of his cancer treatment (not sure what State off hand). He said they helped immensely.

I wasn't a huge fan myself of MJ for recreational use, but I did find that when I had severe cramps from my monthly visitor (before I knew I had severe endometriosis), MJ didn't make me 'high', it did completely take away the pain of the cramps I had!

If we're taking this for sx in a controlled amount, I don't think we'd experience such the euphoric effects of it, as those who use it for recreational purposes.

Or I should certainly hope not!

Catch 07-24-2008 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyC (Post 328810)
We are currently waiting for Illinois to pass the mj law. It's on the books and hasn't been thrown out. l

For the record (and if someone else mentioned this, forgive me, I didn't read all the posts)...We here in CA passed a medical MJ law I think 10 years ago (?) and they're still busting the dispensaries and patients. Bottomline: the federal government still has MJ listed as a controlled substance (quantified as dangerous as heroin, if you can believe that!) and the federal government overrules state law. So it won't make any difference if you pass the medical MJ law in Illinois or any other state. We've got to get the federal law changed!

SandyC 07-24-2008 06:59 PM

You are right on about that Catch! Here in Illinois they are calling it a pilot program and we all know what that means. It's a test to see how things go. So Jim has decided no way is he asking for anything until it is legal for all, not just a testing program. He said what if it fails? Then they know all the pot smokers! lol


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