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tamiloo 07-29-2008 01:08 PM

One year since....
 
I have wanted to do this for weeks…maybe even months. My most recent experience with being a SOS happened one year ago this past Sunday.

Well, I will start with something that at the time was wonderful. My son got married on 07/07/07…it was so beautiful. We had an out door wedding up Logan Canyon. He married a young woman named Katey and she had a two year old, Lilley. Lilley called me Grammy and the Olhipie Papa…and of course, she called my son Daddy.

My son and his new wife went on their honeymoon to spend time with my niece and her family. They were there for about two weeks and had the most wonderful time.

About four days after they got back my son and his new wife were talking on the phone to my niece who lives in Oregon. They had the call on speakerphone and she was upset because her husband wanted to go for a drive so they could talk. She went to the car to wait for him, he said he wanted to kill himself…he walked into the house, locked himself in their bedroom and put a gun to his head. She heard the gun shot and ran with phone in hand into the house and broke into the bedroom and he was gone.

My son and his wife were so traumatized from hearing the whole thing on their phone two states away in Utah. They live next door to us so they came right over to tell us what had happened…what do you do…what do you say…he did it with his children in the next room. It was a horrible thing.

We so often want to be angry with the person who kills himself or herself because we feel it was such a selfish act…but I wonder how alone, very alone he had to be to do this. How sad for all of us.

We did go out for the funeral and stayed for a few days. After we got home from the trip my son’s wife….Katey couldn’t bring herself back to being my son’s new wife. She was on the phone and text messaging my niece so she flew back to Oregon and has been there ever since. She is now partnered with my niece. My son and she are divorced after just a few weeks of marriage.

So sorry this is so long…hope you all had patience with me.

After a year my niece has finally gone back to work…I haven’t talked to her…the family is still very shocked by what Kate did to my son which is also tied with my niece. During the last year, I have had lots of good times and bad times I have had to face. Why does my heart have to hurt so much...

who moi 07-29-2008 01:19 PM

hi Tammi,

I am so glad that you can vent...I don't have any wise words except to say that you know that there are a lot of folks here that care about you...

I have to get going here to get back to work...but I just wanted to send you some hugs before I head outta door...

((((BIG HUGS))))

who moi 07-29-2008 01:25 PM

a gentle bump for tammi before I leave... :)

Alffe 07-29-2008 01:48 PM

Oh Tammy I'm so sorry. :hug: It isn't easy to talk about it and it's impossible to understand that kind of helplessness unless you've felt it.

Your son must feel terribly rejected...which is understandable. Who can we blame in this life for the unexpected, unasked for things that happen to us. We often blame ourselves. :(

You said your "most recent" experience with suicide?? You've had others?

I'm glad you feel that you can talk to us...anniversaries are the pitts!!

:grouphug:

Addy 07-29-2008 01:56 PM

OH my gosh, Tammi... I am so, so sorry for all that your son, you and everyone have had to endure. :grouphug:

It sounds to me that the new wife was very frightened by it all and perhaps afraid that if she stuck around, it would happen to her, too... who knows what could have gone through her mind to leave the man she just married. How horribly sad for you all. My heart goes out to your son.

:hug:Gentle hugs for your heart.

Alffe 07-29-2008 02:02 PM

Still thinking about it Tammy...you have all lost so much including little Lilley. It's affected your whole family. I'm so sorry. I wonder what Kate thought she could accomplish by "being there". ~sigh

Some people are like moths around a flame with suicide.

tamiloo 07-29-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alffe (Post 334597)
Still thinking about it Tammy...you have all lost so much including little Lilley. It's affected your whole family. I'm so sorry. I wonder what Kate thought she could accomplish by "being there". ~sigh

Some people are like moths around a flame with suicide.

My son doesn't talk about it, he says what is done is done...we did loose a special little one...Lilley...

Oddly enough we became very close friends with Kate's parents before the wedding...we are still very close. At times they will hug us and say they are sorry for what Kate did...they also have lost so much...Kate lived with them since Lilley was born, Grandpa was her day care...

What do you say...

Alffe 07-29-2008 02:31 PM

I think you are handling it heroically...what's your second choice. :(

What do you say? There are no words...I could talk to you about forgivness but I'm not a hypocrite....I struggle daily with those issues.

Kate has to live with the consequences of her actions...she is the one who made that choice...you all get to live with the fallout. I'm sorry.

I have to ask...how are the children who were in the next room? Did they get any counseling? And I have to wonder how your son really feels...:hug:

Curious 07-29-2008 02:37 PM

:hug: tam, i wish i knew what to say.

y'all got no choice in any of this. :(

tamiloo 07-29-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alffe (Post 334627)
I think you are handling it heroically...what's your second choice. :(

What do you say? There are no words...I could talk to you about forgivness but I'm not a hypocrite....I struggle daily with those issues.

Kate has to live with the consequences of her actions...she is the one who made that choice...you all get to live with the fallout. I'm sorry.

I have to ask...how are the children who were in the next room? Did they get any counseling? And I have to wonder how your son really feels...:hug:

I wonder how the children are doing also...not counseling yet that I know of. I was told by a family member that they are doing amazingly well.

As for my son, he has been unusually quite lately...he always says he is ok...he does have a girl friend that worships the ground he walks on, which I don't know if Katey ever felt this way. I think she wanted to good life my son had to offer her.

He is one of those kind that say its over nothing we can do about it move on kinda persons. Don't know???:confused:

Alffe 07-29-2008 02:49 PM

Yes, a typical male! :D

Nik-key 07-29-2008 02:55 PM

So sorry you and your family are going through all this Tammy:hug:
I too hope the kids are ok, and your niece as well. I just can't comment on the Katie issue other than to say I am sorry. I do hope your son is able to move on and enjoy this new girl who worships him.

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SandyC 07-29-2008 03:27 PM

:hug: :hug: Tammy and Craig and son :hug: :hug:

Wren 07-29-2008 03:33 PM

Tammy - I'm sending up prayers for your peace. :hug:

Spanish Moss 07-29-2008 03:47 PM

Tami...I am so sorry that you have been carrying this burden and heartbreak. Thank you for letting us hear what is so much on your mind. It is such a tough one for all of you. :hug:

Doody 07-29-2008 04:14 PM

(((Tammi))) Holding your hand and sending up a prayer for you.

Alffe 07-29-2008 07:19 PM

Very soon you can put this day in the win column! Warm hugs...:hug:

who moi 07-29-2008 11:00 PM

((((tammi)))))

tamiloo 07-29-2008 11:10 PM

I don't know if thanks is enough...you guys...your the best!!!:grouphug:

who moi 07-30-2008 01:06 AM

hope you were able to find some peace in posting this, tammi...

maybe in the very least, a release...

(((hugs)))

tamiloo 07-30-2008 02:41 PM

It has helped so much by talking to you guys about the whole thing...it was hard but sometimes the best growth comes from doing the hard stuff!!:hug:

Junie 07-30-2008 10:05 PM

Hi Tamiloo,
I don't really know what to say but when you mentioned the anger I was taken back to a very dark place almost 40 years ago...I was 16, and in love with a 36 y/o rat fink did not know it at the time)and long story short, I found I was pregnant ( I was living with him, had the parents that did not care where I went and if I ever came home) so one day he came home from work and I gave him the happy news and was hurt, shocked and devastated when he promptly called me a slut and literally threw me out of his home! I will never forget, it was summer and raining straight down and I began to walk back to my parents home (about 10 miles) and when I got there I just told them he dumped me and I wanted to e alone so I went into the kitchen, found ex large bottle of pain pills that my dad took for hid RA and went into garage and puled a large mattress over me and lay there waiting to die, and I waited and waited and nothing ever happened so I began to get angry and went into the house with now large empty pill bottle and asked my mom what in the world was in it ( I knew I should never have survived) so without missing a beat mom said when dad had taken the last of them she filled it with vit C and I cracked up, rolled in the floor laughing and finally told mom what I had done, was mildly scolded before she went back to her soaps (which we always thought was weird how she would cry and relate to a bunch of strange actors but when we her kids needed her she was emotionally unavailable) but that was the one and only time I ever tried anything so stupid but I never felt so alone and hopeless in my life and honestly felt it was the right thing to do, but I got stronger after that, worked hard to have and take care of my baby! I guess I have a warped sense of humor and later met, married Dh and he adopted him (I had listed on birth cert. father unknown since he came from money, and 13 years later a woman shot and killed him, imagine that!
Sorry for the hyjack, got carried back in time for the only time I ever did more then think!

tamiloo 07-30-2008 10:37 PM

No Hijacking...Junie, it was great to hear your story. Wow, you are amazing my friend!!
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who moi 08-26-2008 01:25 PM

tammi,

was just thinking about you...


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