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pantos 11-06-2006 01:02 AM

Bottoms up
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226821,00.html

Study: Red Wine Extract Makes Fat Mice Healthy Again

Thursday, November 02, 2006

WASHINGTON — Obese mice on a high-fat diet got the benefits of being thin — living healthier, longer lives — without the pain of dieting when they consumed huge doses of red wine extract, according to a landmark new study.

It's far too early to know if this would work in people, scientists said. But several were excited by the findings, calling it promising and even "spectacular."

The study by the Harvard Medical School and the National Institute on Aging shows that heavy doses of the red wine ingredient, resveratrol, lowers the rate of diabetes, liver problems and other fat-related ill effects in obese mice.

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Fat-related deaths dropped 31 percent for obese mice on the supplement, compared to fat mice that got no treatment. The mice that got the wine extract also lived longer than expected, the study showed.

And astoundingly, the organs of the treated fat mice looked normal when they shouldn't have, said study lead author Dr. David Sinclair of Harvard Medical School.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226821,00.html

SallyC 11-06-2006 01:31 AM

Oh, Yippy skippy. I can be fat and healthy too.:D

NeuroNixed Craig 11-06-2006 11:41 AM

I understand the amount of red wine extract that they gave the mice would be equivalent to humans drinking 100 bottles of wine a day.:eek: I don't think I could do that on my best/worse day.;)

pantos 11-06-2006 05:01 PM

Oh come on, UNDX Craig, let's just pretend we're in college on a friday nite... we could probably do some serious damage to a case of red wine. ;)

Seriously though, the supplement resveratrol is already out. I might go pick some of it up myself. It's already thought to inhibit cancer growth too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resveratrol

http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/ite...trol&WT.srch=1

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...s/resveratrol/

http://pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdru...res_0224.shtml

SallyC 11-06-2006 07:12 PM

I usually want to jump on the band wagon of a new helpful supplement, only to find out later, that too much could kill Ya..:D But I do love burgandy, does that count?

pantos 11-06-2006 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyC (Post 35291)
But I do love burgandy, does that count?

Give it a try Sally. If anyone was well deserving of a good glass of vino, I'd think you are the one! You've been through the ringer the last few days! :o

SallyC 11-07-2006 12:07 AM

Thank Pantos, I believe I do owe myself one or two Caraffes..:D :rolleyes:

Judy2 11-07-2006 06:52 AM

Hmmmmmm -- I wonder if the supplements give you a headache like red wine? That always happened with me even before MS arrived on the scene. Those mice get all the breaks!!!! LOL :)

NeuroNixed Craig 11-07-2006 09:57 AM

You can bet they weren't giving those mice "quality" wine. Probably something bought by the volume like from Costco. :D

Cherie 11-07-2006 02:25 PM

The thought of even a sip of red wine right now is more than I can fathom.

I read an article (that expanded on the fox article you quoted above) in this morning's paper. What I gathered from reading it was that the data was so skewed they could not understand the results. Apparently the previous testing done along these lines had a very high incidence of infertility (despite longevity) and this test showed the laboratory animals to have normal fertility and reproduction rates.

cricket52 11-07-2006 07:42 PM

What I found interesting about the article was that drinking any alcohol while on some of the MS meds wasn't/isn't a good idea?

I love red wine, but since starting all the meds for my symptoms I don't take drink - I can barely walk sober, and half a glass makes me giddy. :D

And I have always been a bit leary of supplements, they are not regulated and I know people who have died from taking too much of what they thought was a good thing.

Years ago my doctor mentioned that Canadians have the most expensive urine in the world. Most of the vitamins and stuff people take is excreted, the body doesn't absorb it all.

Having said that, if a supplement works for someone with any disease and it's not harming them, then they should enjoy it. Why suffer? MJ is a case in point, at least if I chose I can smoke a joint in my own home. Unfortunately I hate the "high" and Sativex is too expensive. I feel bad for my US friends, the hemp wars were over years ago and the government is so close-minded about medicinal mj use in spite of the evidence otherwise. :confused:


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