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dmplaura 11-04-2008 01:03 PM

Where are my 29 gauge needles!?!
 
I picked up my Copaxone today. I was so excited at the thought of 29 gauge needles possibly being inside the box. Especially since my current box (thank goodness I only have 2 needles left) appears to have been full of dull needles, because I've never had so much trouble just literally pushing through the skin with the needles themselves.

Anyways, my new box of Copaxone is filled with gray capped needles. I hear the 29's are black capped? Why are there no 29's in my area, at least, at this point?! :hissyfit:

Has anyone else received the 29's for Copaxone yet? Especially curious about Canadians and if they've received them.

tovaxin_lab_rat 11-04-2008 01:15 PM

Call Shared Solutions and ask them!!! :D

Dejibo 11-04-2008 02:02 PM

I am expecting a new box this week. I will let you know. Last month I was so excited, and dang! grey caps! I want those smaller, thinner needles.

bombi 11-04-2008 02:28 PM

I just picked up a new batch and wow, the smaller needles. The cap is still the opaque plastic with the rubber part inside the cap is black.

I think they do make a bit of difference. The after injection welt seems to go away more quickly but so far that the only difference I've noticed so far.

Erin524 11-04-2008 04:39 PM

There are new needles for the C??

Now I cant wait to use up this box.

dmplaura 11-04-2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Av8rgirl (Post 402179)
Call Shared Solutions and ask them!!! :D

That was a pile of epic fail when I did :(

"Oh yeah, we're getting 29 gauge needles, isn't it exciting?!... but we're not sure when...".

That was the conversation.

bombi, you'd better hide your needles... I'ma coming!

tovaxin_lab_rat 11-04-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmplaura (Post 402340)
That was a pile of epic fail when I did :(

"Oh yeah, we're getting 29 gauge needles, isn't it exciting?!... but we're not sure when...".

That was the conversation.

bombi, you'd better hide your needles... I'ma coming!

Don't you just love it when the support team has no clue!!! :p

Did I tell you that I still get stuff from them and I haven't been on C since 2005?

And I also got one of the new Autojectors for Betaseron and I haven't been on Beta since 2004?

How does one get OFF their mailing lists??? I gave the autojector to the drug rep for Bayer with a nice letter in the box....:rolleyes:

SandyC 11-05-2008 12:57 AM

I asked for an auto inject for Beta and never got it. lol

weegot5kiz 11-05-2008 01:42 AM

Laura do your shots come all pre-packed? mine are all set and all I have to do is slip it in auto inject or inject myself I do not have to load syringes

hiya how ya doing besides missing 29's

dmplaura 11-05-2008 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weegot5kiz (Post 402500)
Laura do your shots come all pre-packed? mine are all set and all I have to do is slip it in auto inject or inject myself I do not have to load syringes

hiya how ya doing besides missing 29's

I'm doing well! LEEP today. I'm up way too early (my nap from 4pm went till 9pm and screwed up my sleep schedule!). I'm excited to get the LEEP out of the way to be quite honest.

Otherwise... needles. Mine have always come pre-filled. The first time I asked about getting the ones you fill yourself, they told me at the pharmacy that, at least in Canada, they ONLY come pre-filled now.

If this is true or not, who knows? It's certainly all I've known!

Dejibo 11-05-2008 10:36 AM

Surprise!
 
I just opened a new box. When it originally came, I looked, and the caps looked grey. *sigh* i tucked the box away for use. I pulled out the first needle last night, and noticed when I was preparing it, that the cap was not the same color as the stopper inside. it was just darker. The plastic white cap that covers the rubber cap, makes it hard to tell grey/black and so on. I spun the color around, and compared it to the stopper inside, and yep! its darker! I opened an old one that was laying around, and yep! its smaller. didnt look a whole lot smaller, but you could still tell.

I held it against my skin, and pushed. I normally have to punch on it a bit, as I have very tough skin. I was impressed! it slid right in! wooo hooo! :cool:

It took a few seconds longer to unload the syringe, but WORTH IT! I will take the extra few seconds, over that hard punch from the old needle anyday!

So, YES! they do exist. I did get mine. I hope you do too.

dmplaura 11-05-2008 11:52 AM

Oh man Dej, maybe I'll take one of the new ones out and let it get room temp. for tomorrow (injection time in a few here, 2 of the old ones left still).

Then I'll do a comparison :)

I still think I'll be brutally disappointed!

I told Shared Solutions I thought my needles were dull. Their answer? "Oh, your skin is probably getting tougher from injecting." ... What? That's why I rotate. Yeah, that makes perfect sense, thanks friends. :rolleyes:

Btw, had my LEEP. It wasn't as bad as the Colposcopy (I found at least). Sure they did an injection down there and said "You may feel your heart beat really fast and a bad taste in your mouth" (I was chewing gum, sorry, but us IVSM vets know the gum trick!) and neither happened! No fast heartbeat, no nasty taste. Was pretty easy compared with the other procedure. Minimal cramping too. In fact, I think I'll go for a walk later on today (going to be up to 16-17 celcius which is BEAUTIFUL weather for us at this time of the year).

The bad news? In 4 months time, I don't have a PAP (I was expecting and praying for a PAP). Nope! I get to go for yet another Colposcopy! :Noooo:

Dejibo 11-05-2008 05:34 PM

I too swear that some needles were just plain old DULL! :mad: I have been a nurse for a looooong time, and given ten of thousands of injections, and these are the strangest needles ever. some are dull, some are sharp, even within the same batch number! makes me crazy! I do have tough skin, and it HURTS!

yea for the new needle! slid right in. feels like an insulin needle. woo hoo!:D

dmplaura 11-05-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejibo (Post 402863)
I too swear that some needles were just plain old DULL! :mad: I have been a nurse for a looooong time, and given ten of thousands of injections, and these are the strangest needles ever. some are dull, some are sharp, even within the same batch number! makes me crazy! I do have tough skin, and it HURTS!

yea for the new needle! slid right in. feels like an insulin needle. woo hoo!:D

Yeah, my significant other is diabetic, and I asked him about the gauge of his needles and 29 does sound like insulin needles (he wasn't 100% sure).

I have 1 new one out of the box for tomorrow, and the one from today I didn't toss in the sharps container. Going to see if the caps are different at all first. So far from looking really close in the light, it appears they're not however.

Even if they're 27 gauge, I'm ok with that for another month or 2, provided I don't continue to have the problem of the needles being hard to push through my skin. That's been awful with the current box as I said, unlike any of the others I've had :(

RedPenguins 11-06-2008 02:38 AM

will the new needles be usable with the autoject??

I stared at my needle last night and CONSIDERED manually injecting...but couldn't do it.

Also, I was prescribed vit B-12 shots (twice weekly) - and despite my searching, I can't find a pen-inject type system for it - so I am going to have to fnd someone to come give me that shot....

~Keri

RedPenguins 11-06-2008 04:03 AM

Ooops - answered my own question.
I just went thru 24 replacement needles sent to me by Shared Solutions (b/c of dull needles)....and tonight I just did my last one from that batch - and lo and behold...black cap!

(I checked other box that I had - and they are grey)

Not sure I noticed any difference the last three weeks with these - but I guess I will see tomorrow when I go back to the greys.

In the meantime, I still have huge welts and bruises that take at least a week to go away. Ugg.

~Keri

Dejibo 11-06-2008 08:01 AM

yes, its fine to use the old AI with the new needles.

Its REALLY hard to tell what color that cap actually is without opening the package, and really looking at it. Compare it to the stopper inside the syringe, and then against the black stripe that runs around the syringe. I couldnt tell the difference until I opened the package and really looked.

I hope you got new ones!

bombi 11-06-2008 08:29 AM

After a week of injecting with the smaller gague Copaxone needle I don't notice any significant differences. Maybe the med comes out a little slower and it seems they are sharper. Lumps and bumps are about the same.:confused:
Any improvement is welcome.

Desinie 11-06-2008 10:22 AM

Started a new box of Copaxone last night. I didn't notice anything different with the needle. Guess I didn't get the new smaller needles yet.

bluenurse 11-06-2008 11:26 AM

I got the new needles in my last shipment, and I see a big difference. The old grey capped needles where just so dull. The new needles go in so much easier,although it does take a little longer to inject. Good improvement for me!!

dmplaura 11-06-2008 12:41 PM

Well, I tried my first today from the new box of needles, and sadly... they're gray capped and still the same old needles :(

The only positive is that they seem to be less dull than the previous box, if the first is any indication.

Maybe next month?

Any Canadians get the 29's at all yet?

Dejibo 11-07-2008 09:49 AM

it has made a nice change for me! the lumps are really smaller. The needle is MUCH MUCH MUCH sharper. it slides right in! I am glad I didnt know the new box was new needles, or I would have abandoned the old box, instead of using them up.

Hang in there, I bet the lil ones will be there next shipment for ya. :hug:

dmplaura 11-07-2008 12:57 PM

I sure hope so!


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