the "parkiejam" website
 

has been stolen. Laura Dean can no longer access it. She is in tears over this. I hope the people involved will realize the damage they are doing. There is a trojan horse associated with this site, so be careful if you go there.

addendum:

the trojan horse is not a problem, I have discovered. It was an attachment to an email. I am thoughly confused by this whole situation. Parkiejam.net is still under Laura's ownership.

I really do not understand how other PWP's could do this.

I hope the principals involved will engage in a constructive dialogue and solve this problem. Laura deserves better.

end addendum
Why can't we all just get along??

I hope we can get a dialogue going here that will solve this problem. In the mean time I have instructed Laura how to get control of parkiejam.com
back.

Charlie Black

parkiejam
 

:( How can someone steal a website??

IL too don't understand. It may not be malicious at all if someone unknowingly sent her an attachement and it contained a virus. Seems she doesn't have her security set up right.

Anyone can send anything it is up to you to protect yourself from a mistake or a malicious happening.

i have my own web site.

i would suggest that laura dean contact her web server. she may have to set new passwords through her server. i would also suggest that she change those passwords often. her server will have her original contact information to verify who she is.


i hope this helps.

curious
 

Curious--Are your websites pd related? care to share them?

capri, my website is for the health club my husband and i own. information about the club and some workout info. :)

this is what I had her do. Evidently a webmaster who had offered his help, turned out to be a "less than honest" person. She contacted her ISP and the problem is supposedly handled.

Charlie

:) thanks for the update! i'm glad it all worked out for her.

Which one
 

Was it parkiejam.org or parkiejam.net?

If the problem isn't resolved, I would be happy to help. I have been a professional nerd now for 12 years running.

Robert

neither,, its dot com, and no the issue is still not resolved. if YOU GUYS type parkiejam.com in your address bar it flies the flag of parkinson profiles, if I type it in, I get "site not found".

I will not name names, but there is more than speculation about this site being stolen. One of the main people in there used to work closely with me when it was parkiejam. the webspinner refused to allow me administration priveldges and after i voiced rather loudly my opinion on this matter, found myself unable to enter my own domain. i asked this person to help me aand she said that she also had been banned from site after her attempt at communication with the webspinner. i tried to close down site now out of my hands and through a suggestion of a close friend allowed a person who DID have access to send out messages to all members that their membership was being deleted due to circumstances beyond my control. when the memberships were all deleted, i assumed that would close it. i was wrong. suddenly it became parkinson profile with an introduction slamming the "previous" owner in words that i had abandoned the site. and the gracious webspinner had made things so wonderful for the new site. i was allowed access to this "site" .. still under parkiejam.com... as a member.. yet, every thing i typed in to question was deleted. the person who told me she had been booted, is now there.. top of the helm trying very hard to establish such a nice environment. i have gone into my yahoo business accoount where the domain was established and found parkiejam.com had been somehow "deactivated" yet it still was in the registry. I never cancelled my domain hame holding, just the domain hosting in the hopes this would shut it down.. it didnt. so, today, i reactivated the domain and had everything to do with parkiejam.com rerouted to parkiejam.net.. it still isnt working..

harley,

find out from your hosting company what their wait time is. some can be 24 hours up to 78 for a change to take place.

i had a hassle with mine and ended up paying for 2 years of service with one company and never switching becuase of the down time.

you might want to post on the computer forum or send a pm to southernlady, she is awesome at helping.

need to clarify..after several attempts at some kind of explanation, i finally got "das boot" . whoever is heading this really knows alot about puters... and has my ip addy.

I cannot speak for the domain name problem on the parkiejam.com forwarding but I can speak for some of the other issues regarding what has all happened regarding the old site.

The old site hosting was provided by Chat Essentials who make the glassroom chat software. This was provided as I understand it at no cost for the setup of a Parkinson's related site which Harley was in charge of. Through a conflict of personalities over the control of the website the hosting company basically stopped working with harley on the administration and maintainence of the site. Thus it went down.

Now, a person named Daniel decided the website did deserve to be available to the Parkingson's community but Chat essentials wanted someone else to run it. So they renamed it Parkinson Profile, set the Parkiejam domain name to forward to it and reopened the site. The site was open under Parkinson Profile for a few months with absolutely no activity. Chat essentials was about to totally shut down the site when they got in touch with a friend of mine to take over the running of it or see it go down for good. my friend accepted it so the site would stay available and was working as best she could to make it a alternative resource for the Parkinson's community.

At no time did anyone actively try to steal anything from Harley except maybe the poor judgement of the hosting company in using the forwarding of the domain name to point to the new site.

Hi Harley and others,
As I understood it Parkiejam as an entity was started by Harley and is to all extent and purposes her baby. When Yahoo groups stopped having a chat function the thriving parkiejam site was unable to function in the way Harley set it up to do. Am I right in assuming that the .com site was where you started to re-establish parkiejam, Laura?

I may be wrong about this, but whatever dispute there may have been over hosting the site, I would have thought the domain should still belong to you and that you should be able to determine what it linked to it. At the very least you should have some kind of intellectual rights on the name itself. I went and had a look myself, as I was always unable to access the old yahoo group to join in (I had a mac and couldn't get it for the fun bits :( ). I can see the .net is a site in its own right, but the Profile .com site should not be linked to the parkiejam name - it should be up there in it's own right or not at all. As it seems to have no activity worth talking about, it is a matter of who actually owns the domain name - if that is Laura, then someone is infringing her rights. Even if the domain name was given to her by the hosting company, it should have an owner, it should have been registered.... Either they never sorted out ownership for Laura, or she owns it. However there seems to be some kind of politics about this, at least on a personal level......

Laura, you are always putting your heart into things to help the PD community - don't let this get you down.

Lindy

As I understand it Laura does own the parkiejam.com domain name, so they should turn off the forwarding and transfer the domain back to her.

As for the website, it is up under www.parkinsonprofile.com. So once they un forward her domain name it will be a seperate entity.

suggestion
 

please do not speak on matters you are not personally involved with ray. the only two people who know exactly what happened are myself and soheil.. the glassroom webspinner. the site came about when i approached him about a possible payment program for his chatroom software and he graciously offered to build the site for no charge. I was not informed that this meant i would not be made admin of site. After several attempts of asking that i be made admin and being told I did not know how to "work" it... I sent an email stating my side loudly. Soheil made me "admin" with the word by my name, and gave me a few things I could do. If I wanted any type of changes that meant tinkering with settings of any kind, I had to email him with requests. Basically, all I could do was approve of pics and polls.. I wanted things like having some wording changed, I called him. No answer. I wanted to have things that i could do in yahoo. No.. I had the same "friend" ray says now oversees the site, call him. He said to her that all requests must be in email. No more phone calls. SO, both her and I emailed. No response. Then, I found myself unable to access the site at all... until suddenly it became parkinson profile
I hope that has cleared all info needed on this "personality clash".. if not.. why not include a statement from soheil?
Recently, I have discovered I can access from another computer... just not mine.

There is no forwarding of this domain. I attempted to forward parkiejam.com to parkiejam.net.. and that did not work. This is my baby... thank you lindy. this parkinson profile still has what I was able to put in it.. there... my graphics are still there as well as the forums I added. In essense, it is just a continuation of what I started... without me...

I have a question. WHo is daniel? He obviously knows me. He said in the announcement of parkinson profile that he was involved in parkiejam.com.. I do not remember anyone called "daniel".

Well...
 

All i know is that I got into "parkiejam", figuring it was Harly's site and the next reply was from some guy, "cyberposturing" like it was his site, and it seemed weird to me at the time. cs

the rest of the story
 

Harley has finally released me from the promise I made to never tell anyone this information. So now you get the “rest of the story”- Why was Harley fighting with the hosting company? If anyone goes to http://www.parkinsonprofile.com/ they will easily understand the problem that Harley was trying to get fixed. It still has the same problems today; it was originally a dating site. It has your star sign and also secret crush messaging (love notes) between members. There were promises made to fix these problems and make it more for the Parkinson’s community. Would you want to be responsible for placing a site that encouraged dating between members in the middle the Parkinson’s community? When she became very insistent that they solve these issues they closed the chat room removed her and Lindy’s administrative access. She felt responsible for protecting private information, such as everyone’s email addresses.
This is where I came into the picture, when Harley could no longer control her web site, she asked for suggestions. Because she was blocked we came up with the plan of trying her password from my computer. We were able to gain access. What could we do now to insure the trust that people had placed in Harley to protect their private information? With the chat room down and the hosting company was acting antagonistic almost to the point of hostility we picked the only responsible choice left. Delete everyone’s information. We had no idea who could access the site and use the email list to start sending Parkinson’s related spam. After I was finished with deleting all names, I deleted as much of the site configuration as I could. Everyone who went there discovered that the site was offline for months; no one entered that site after what I had done. It was not abandon as “Daniel” claims it was destroyed.
I would like to see everyone contact -info@ChatEssentials.com
info@ChatEssentials.com

A parkie dating service......
 

wouldn't be a bad idea; not like anne and greg, or why not, but good looking rich people that need people to fill thrie mansions with warm bodies. I could take a job as "security" to some Hollwood mansion and sit at a desk in my wheel chair and me bobby stick, "while no one but the owners ever crossed over the threshold every day" (just keep me away from the pool, Enrique does that job, and he's a whole lot stronger and good looking than me).
Or some gorgeous babe who only loves disabled guys:D :D !
I'll date the "nursy kind" who are once again gorgeous, young (35-40) ish, loves to serve you:) :D :eek: :p :cool: ; blond hair , blue eyes, and an excellent height/weight ratio. Theres probably oodles of women out there who want to date a guy that can hardly move, don't ask questions when they want to do there thing, and don''t mind listenihg to the daily tally of aches and pains, and by the way darling, how was your day, and could you please sweetie, fetch a cold guineys for me will ya? I'd make you a margarita right now, but i'm like "off" ya know. No probem my roller man, just gi me a miute to change into something more comfortable, K?:) :D :D :D :)

sigh.. the more i read this, the more it sounds like a movie.. can i get meyrl streep to play me?

Be honest to yourself and stop blaming others
 

Hi everyone,
I started to answer some concerns here but my message got too long, so please click on the link below to read all about this issue if you are concerned.

http://www.parkinsonprofile.com/read.htm

thank you soheil.. at least i know now who daniel is..

and i know why this has happened.. your last paragraph tells it all.

curious soheil.. what does "come to her senses" mean?

Here you go again with your accusations!
What is it? now it's my turn to be ruined by you?
Why would I tell you who I am so you can go around and blame me and put my name all over the web as being a dishonest person like you did with chatessentials?

I am a nobody who came to the across your site one day for some research on pd. and got involved in this war you created! If you want think I am someone else, be my guest but please be careful not to ruin the reputation of others for God's sake. It's not right.

I tell everyone now one again. I am not the owner of Parkinson profile and do not claim any rights to it. Yes, the domain is registered under my name, but it's simply because it has to be. If anyone is qualified enough and be able to prove to me that they will put it to good use, I will transfer it to them.

this is interesting soheil.. how this post came right after i called you and you tell me to call back in 10 minutes and then when i do call back, you do not answer , instead this post is written

I just got an email from soheil saying that you had a long conversation with him over the phone.

He tried to indirectly tell me that I was being too harsh with you.

I am sorry if I offended you or anyone else here. It just gets to me sometimes when I see injustice. I hope we all can get along and simply put this matter to rest.
He said that you are now are clear that during the time the site was down, it was not you being locked out. It was the fact which I mentioned, the server crash.

Once more, my name is Daniel, but if you want to call me other name, be my guest! :rolleyes:

I wish you prosperity and this will hopefully be my last post here.
if you have questions/comments, please communicate with me through the parkinsonprofile site.
I will have your IP freed by please, please let's be friends. I do not want to fight anymore! I am tired!

you know what? this is STUPID! WE HAVE A BROTHER LAYING IN ICU.. STILL... TOAD NEEDS OUR PRAYER

WE HAVE A SISTER WHOS SON IS ON KIDNEY DIALISIS...
JAN AND NOLAN NEED OUR PRAYER

WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE TO PRAY FOR AND HERE WE ARE FKING BICKERING OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS

I AM SO VERY SORRY.. DOES IT MATTER WHO IS RIGHT? DO THE FACTS EVEN MATTER IN THIS DUMB, STUPID MESS???? WHAT MATTERS? LIFE MATTERS AND WE BETTER BEGIN TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT OR WE ARE GOING TO BEING LOSING TRACK OF VERY IMPORTANT THIINGS. ONCE A SECOND HAS TICKED, IT IS INTO THE PAST AND IS GONE FROM US FOREVER.

I AM TIRED OF THIS BATTLE. I AM TIRED OF DEFENDING SOMETHING THAT DOESNT MATTER . THE FACTS WILL VARY FOREVER IN INTERPRETATION DUE TO A STUPID THING CALLED PRIDE.

MY APOLOGIES...

PLEASE PRAY FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED PRAYER, AND TOSS ASIDE THIS STUPID, REDICULOUS THREAD. I PLAN ON IT. I AM SORRY THIS WASTED EVERYONES TIME.

good luck with parkinson profile daniel.

Like as in real life the story ends with the lead character rising from the heap of what has been written into her life.

Stand tall Harley.................we all make a difference in that win or fail we all make a try at the prize

Whether we win or not the Prize/Cure will come. Those who have stood up for the count will have in the end given their all. Others will go on to enjoy that which they helped to bring into existence. Others will just look for another role to play, so now

The credits run and that's a take