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Gazelle 12-03-2008 02:07 PM

It's official (again). I'm diseased!
 
This doc was great. He listened, was very personable, had a sense of humor, explained things well, and felt that without a doubt it was MS. So I have my dx back. (and he laughed when I told him at the end of the visit that I was afraid that I was going to go down there and end up with him telling me I had a hang nail)

I'm diseased officially (again)!!!!! :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
(hmm.... maybe the excited people emoticons are kind of strange considering what I'm happy about)

OH..... and I can sign up for a clinical trial with oral medication Fingolimod (FTY720)!
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/N...US%3APA&rank=4


http://www.msclinicaltrials.com/index.html

I'm going to talk to the study coordinator. I'd been on Copaxone since 2005 when I got my dx from my second neuro (Dr. Flip Flop's partner). But the chance to try an oral medication, even knowing that it could turn out to be a placebo, is worth a shot (pun intended) as an alternative to daily injections which I hate.

Off to see about getting a "baseline" MRI done for him.

Snoopy 12-03-2008 03:29 PM

WooHoo!! Congratulations on getting your disease back!

:holysheep: That just seemed soooo wrong :eek:

Well at least you fit in quite nicely here :p

dmplaura 12-03-2008 03:57 PM

Ahhhh, so the cape and staff worked huh? :D

Very big congratulations on finding your disease again! :hug:

Gazelle 12-03-2008 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopy (Post 418992)
WooHoo!! Congratulations on getting your disease back!

:holysheep: That just seemed soooo wrong :eek:

LOL Yeah, it does, LeeAnn. Sort of like saying, "Congratulations! I'm so glad you are disabled enough to get your disability benefits." Huh??



Quote:

Originally Posted by dmplaura (Post 419004)
Ahhhh, so the cape and staff worked huh? :D

Very big congratulations on finding your disease again! :hug:

He was deeply impressed with the cape, but I think the staff, which had a Gandalf head on it which, when tapped, emitted halogen bright beams of light and little sparkly bits floating in the beams probably did it. :p



As long as this doc doesn't leave the facility or stop treating MS patients, I'm going to stick with him.

Kitty 12-03-2008 04:27 PM

Congratulations.....I think. What's the proper etiquette for congratulating someone on their disease? :D Just kidding.....I know you're glad to finally have someone agree with what you already knew.

These doctors could learn a lot from us if they would just listen! :rolleyes:

CayoKay 12-03-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 419015)
He was deeply impressed with the cape, but I think the staff, which had a Gandalf head on it which, when tapped, emitted halogen bright beams of light and little sparkly bits floating in the beams. :p

if only I could get my Gandalf to do THAT !!

he just makes noise:


honk honk, WHEEEEEEEEEEE!! honk honk, WHEEEEEEEEEE !!


hey, can you take the Fingolimod in ADDITION to the Cop?

hey, I'm so old I remember when it was called Cop1.

to differentiate it from Cop2 and Cop3, other versions of Glatiramer Acetate they were trying out in the clinical trials back in '94 and '95.

so, "At Ease! Stotty!"

don't be un-easy, your dis-ease is in fine form, and we're here to celebrate the resurgence of your diseasement.

:grouphug:

tkrik 12-03-2008 06:00 PM

YIPPPEEEE!!! I am so glad the 3rd time was a charm. I am also glad you liked the dr and he had a sense of humor.

dmplaura 12-03-2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 419015)
He was deeply impressed with the cape, but I think the staff, which had a Gandalf head on it which, when tapped, emitted halogen bright beams of light and little sparkly bits floating in the beams probably did it.

So.... I hope you didn't cause him Optic Neuritis or something. :holysheep:

JoeMac 12-03-2008 10:49 PM

Happy to hear that the 3rd time WAS the charm Gazelle! Great to hear, and it is SO refreshing to get a doc that actually LISTENS and makes you feel GOOD when you leave the office, it helps us SO much more when we know our docs are like that.........This disease is just TOO crazy and we really NEED that in a doctor.........

I am happy that you have finally found your guy.........:)


Joe



Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 418948)
This doc was great. He listened, was very personable, had a sense of humor, explained things well, and felt that without a doubt it was MS. So I have my dx back. (and he laughed when I told him at the end of the visit that I was afraid that I was going to go down there and end up with him telling me I had a hang nail)

I'm diseased officially (again)!!!!! :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
(hmm.... maybe the excited people emoticons are kind of strange considering what I'm happy about)

OH..... and I can sign up for a clinical trial with oral medication Fingolimod (FTY720)!
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/N...US%3APA&rank=4


http://www.msclinicaltrials.com/index.html

I'm going to talk to the study coordinator. I'd been on Copaxone since 2005 when I got my dx from my second neuro (Dr. Flip Flop's partner). But the chance to try an oral medication, even knowing that it could turn out to be a placebo, is worth a shot (pun intended) as an alternative to daily injections which I hate.

Off to see about getting a "baseline" MRI done for him.


lady_express_44 12-04-2008 05:39 AM

Well I'm glad you finally have someone who is willing to put a label to it so you can at least start fighting the battle. Sorry to hear it's MS for sure though. :hug:

Cherie

Gazelle 12-04-2008 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CayoKay (Post 419041)
hey, can you take the Fingolimod in ADDITION to the Cop?

hey, I'm so old I remember when it was called Cop1.

don't be un-easy, your dis-ease is in fine form, and we're here to celebrate the resurgence of your diseasement.

Not sure that you can. I don't know much about it yet because I haven't spoken to the study coordinator. I'll know more once I do.

Cop1, huh? I'm thinking that doesn't make you OLD, it just makes you aware of stuff to deal with this disease longer! ;)


HK, Yeah, I wish more docs would actually HEAR what their patients are saying rather than listening only to what they want to hear. It would make everyone's life better.

Tkrik, it's a good feeling! :D It is so hard to get a doc where you feel comfortable with the relationship. I worked with too many docs in the hospital and have switched all my physicians to ones who have maintained their humanity.

Dimpled One, he must have been used to things like that because he pulled out a pair of dark glasses, never missed a stride, and kept asking questions. He's GOOD! :D

JoeMac, you are so right about that. I know I need humans with feelings and personalities as docs. He made me laugh when I explained why I didn't report increases in sx or new sx to my former docs unless they'd lasted for more than a week or two. I told him "I'm not a whiner." He looked at me and said drolly, "Good, then you can be my patient." And gave me a BIG smile. My kind of guy! :highfive:

Cherie, thanks. It's a relief to finally have two docs agree, even if it IS 3 years apart. That part was just so frustrating to me.

I guess the best part is that this isn't a devastating discovery for me because I have been dealing with the likelihood that it was MS since 2003. And the dx in 2005 gave me mixed emotions even though I'd adjusted to the probability. This time, I just wanted to jump off the exam table and do a victory dance and spike a stethoscope! Life's crazy.

Thanks for "celebrating" with me! :grouphug:

hollym 12-04-2008 08:53 AM

I understand totally, Gazelle. I think I would do the victory dance for sure at this point if my neuro would firm things up for me. Unfortunately, having obvious brain damage and many white spots doesn't count if they aren't "typical".

BTW, my brain is definitely the one labeled "Abby Normal". It is abnormal for normal people and abnormal for MS. So many holes, but no pegs to fit in......

azoyizes 12-04-2008 11:24 AM

Way to go! I'm glad you have a good, smart, doc with a sense of humor. :D

Good luck with the oral med. :Good-Luck:

I'm excited for you. :Excited:

ewizabeth 12-04-2008 11:32 AM

Glad you found a sensible doctor... You have to wonder, do the other doctors that try to change the diagnosis do it so they can order a bunch of tests to "look for other problems"? :rolleyes:

Once I sort of hinted to my neuro that maybe I didn't have MS and you should have seen his expression... :Noooo: like he's thinking, oh, you definitely have MS.

SandyC 12-04-2008 11:55 AM

Sorry you got the dx again but glad you don't have to fight anymore either.

I am excited about that oral medication. Whoohoo! You go Gaz!

Gazelle 12-04-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollym (Post 419314)
It is abnormal for normal people and abnormal for MS. So many holes, but no pegs to fit in......

Ya want this guy's name? It'd give you an excuse to maybe come visit! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by azoyizes (Post 419383)
I'm excited for you. :Excited:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandyC (Post 419399)
I am excited about that oral medication. Whoohoo! You go Gaz!

Thanks, I am too in a weird sort of way!


Quote:

Originally Posted by ewizabeth (Post 419389)
Glad you found a sensible doctor... You have to wonder, do the other doctors that try to change the diagnosis do it so they can order a bunch of tests to "look for other problems"? :rolleyes:

Once I sort of hinted to my neuro that maybe I didn't have MS and you should have seen his expression... :Noooo: like he's thinking, oh, you definitely have MS.

Wiz, I know. Those things had been ruled out before. And when I went to the rheumatologist less than a month ago he ordered a lot of the same "rule out" tests AGAIN! Ugh... what, he didn't BELIEVE the tests from earlier this year? Sometimes you just throw your hands up in the air in frustration and submit because you know there's no other way out.


Oh boy.... that must have been a Kodak moment! Well, when you're stuck with the dx I guess you're stuck. :rolleyes: At least he didn't give you the impression you needed a psych eval. Hey, there's a bonus behind MANY things in life if you only look. :D

tovaxin_lab_rat 12-04-2008 05:03 PM

gazzie is buying maker's mark for everyone! :D

dmplaura 12-04-2008 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 419275)
Dimpled One, he must have been used to things like that because he pulled out a pair of dark glasses, never missed a stride, and kept asking questions. He's GOOD! :D

Next time, pew pew him with magic missiles ;)!

CayoKay 12-04-2008 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollym (Post 419314)
BTW, my brain is definitely the one labeled "Abby Normal"

:D

DD-then-11 called me Abby for a YEAR after my first flare.

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Igor, would you mind telling me whose brain I did put in?
Igor: And you won't be angry?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: I will NOT be angry.
Igor: Abby someone.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby someone. Abby who?
Igor: Abby Normal.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby Normal?
Igor: I'm almost sure that was the name.


Holly, thanks for reminding me of that joyous nickname !!

:D

welcome (back) to the Abby-Club, Gaz !!

:cool:

CayoKay 12-04-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 419275)
Cop1, huh? I'm thinking that doesn't make you OLD, it just makes you aware of stuff to deal with this disease longer! ;)

yep:

The original researchers named it Copolymer 1, the "1" indicating that it was the result of their first copolymerization reaction. Until 1996, the drug went through life as Copolymer 1, often shortened to Cop 1. Those familiar with the full name pronounced Cop as "cope"; others pronounced it as if talking about a police officer.

Teva, the firm which carried out the final steps of development of Cop 1 and filed a New Drug Application (NDA) for it, chose the trade name CopaxoneŽ, which cleverly incorporated "Cop" and "one", as well as including the word "axon" as a reference to the nervous system and the place at which the drug produces its beneficial action.


http://molinterv.aspetjournals.org/c...ent/full/4/1/6

I remember first hearing about Cop1 at a Sacramento MS Society seminar in 1992.

Gazelle 12-04-2008 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmplaura (Post 419604)
Next time, pew pew him with magic missiles ;)!

Good plan, but that won't make him change the dx, right? :confused::eek::p


Cayo, I LOVE that movie. LOL See, I was so happy when I had my first MRI because I then had medically documented evidence that I had a brain and that it was normal (despite what some of my friends said).

Igor: Walk this way. (that's my FAVORITE line I think)

Frankenstein: You must be Igor.
Igor: No, it's pronounced "eye-gor."
Frankenstein: But they told me it was "ee-gor."
Igor: Well, they were wrong then, weren't they?

Gazelle 12-04-2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CayoKay (Post 419633)
yep:

The original researchers named it Copolymer 1, the "1" indicating that it was the result of their first copolymerization reaction. Until 1996, the drug went through life as Copolymer 1, often shortened to Cop 1. Those familiar with the full name pronounced Cop as "cope"; others pronounced it as if talking about a police officer.

Teva, the firm which carried out the final steps of development of Cop 1 and filed a New Drug Application (NDA) for it, chose the trade name CopaxoneŽ, which cleverly incorporated "Cop" and "one", as well as including the word "axon" as a reference to the nervous system and the place at which the drug produces its beneficial action.


http://molinterv.aspetjournals.org/c...ent/full/4/1/6

I remember first hearing about Cop1 at a Sacramento MS Society seminar in 1992.

Berri berri interesting. Wow, I learn something new from you all the time!

For me, it'd be Cop as in Police Officer. My mom worked for the police department from when I was 13 to 18. Imagine having 165 dads with supremely dirty minds and bizarre senses of humor! And you wonder why I'm warped. :rolleyes:

dmplaura 12-04-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 419635)
Good plan, but that won't make him change the dx, right? :confused::eek::p

I should hope not! Maybe he'll hook you up with some good stuff though, if you know what I mean. :winky:

Twinkletoes 12-04-2008 09:49 PM

Congratulations? Gazzy!

Glad you like your doc -- he sounds like a keeper.

Ummm, you SURE you want MS? I mean, you know about the initiation ceremony, right?

Gazelle 12-04-2008 09:54 PM

Hmmm, Twink, I think I might. I hazily (pun intended) remember something about one that I went through in 2005. Do you have to go through it again if you lose the dx and then get re-dx'd? Is it like Plebe week?

Look, MS sounds a lot nicer than ALS or GB or MG or CA. So.... sure, I'll take MS. Besides, I like the club benefits.

Twinkletoes 12-04-2008 09:57 PM

Nah, we won't make you go through it again.

You're right about Club benefits, though. Love meeting other MSers.

So, you're going to plan a GTG now, right?

Gazelle 12-04-2008 10:01 PM

Maybe you have WAY too many frequent flier miles. :D

Sure, I think the next one I'm going to plan will be in Italy with Greta. So who's joining me?

:p

Taffy 12-04-2008 10:48 PM

Well CG I always knew you had holes in your head!


:welcome_sign:

Air Head Club

Desinie 12-05-2008 07:52 AM

Gaz,
Glad you got confirmation,but wished for you that it woulda been something curable still. :hug: Bet you're glad though for the confirmation. I enjoy your posts always, just wanted you to know.

BaxterTheBunny 12-05-2008 08:05 AM

Gazelle,

Yeah, this is weird congratulating you on a disease. So I'll congratulate you on finding out you're not crazy. There really ARE holes in your head! LOL!

Glad you found a good doctor finally.

Now you can sit back, relax and take all these drugs they like giving us :D

:hug:
Kim

Riverwild 12-05-2008 10:35 AM

Well Gazling!

Glad to hear you have an explanation for all the holes in your head and that you caught a good doc! It makes all the difference in the world when dealing with this carp!

Now get back to work!

Gazelle 12-07-2008 03:04 PM

You guys are too funny!

I've got an MRI scheduled for the week of Christmas on a 3 T MRI machine. It'll be interesting to see THAT report and what, if anything, the neuro has to say about it.

Did receive an e-mail from him yesterday, which was really nice. :winner_first_h4h: I definitely have a winner here!

But, but..... Kim, I kinda LIKE the "I love me" jackets. They're haute couture! :rolleyes:

weegot5kiz 12-07-2008 03:08 PM

welcome back to a fellow Ms'er sorry I got a lisp:rolleyes:

even though its a double edged sword its a freedom of worries and wondering,

Gazelle 12-07-2008 03:17 PM

Thankth Frank, it'th nith to know I've got friendth. You're thomthing thpethial! :hug:

weegot5kiz 12-07-2008 03:32 PM

lol .................

Twinkletoes 12-10-2008 02:18 AM

Can't help but think of Gee Officer Krupke from West Side Story when I see the word "disease."

(Pssst: Good thing you have MS and not a social disease ... or then you'd have to see a social worker). ;)

It all makes sense when you watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwT-IkxS8k Just over 4 min. long.

Gazelle 12-10-2008 07:33 AM

I love that movie! That's a great scene. But someone really put some work into it! GREAT additions. Oliver was just a brilliant addition to it.

Great..... now I'm going to have that and "When you're a Jet...." in my head all day today.

dmplaura 12-10-2008 09:53 AM

I'm going to be tired with Gaztastic today.

Cruddy weather to go with cruddy disease!!

Gazelle 12-10-2008 04:58 PM

Here, too, DimpledOne. It was raining all day--dark and overcast. Sort of a "curl up with a good book or a movie" day. Wish I could have. It's hard to be at work when it's like that!

SallyC 12-10-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinkletoes (Post 422335)
Can't help but think of Gee Officer Krupke from West Side Story when I see the word "disease."

(Pssst: Good thing you have MS and not a social disease ... or then you'd have to see a social worker). ;)

It all makes sense when you watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwT-IkxS8k Just over 4 min. long.

I saw WSS on the New York Stage, in 1957, with Carol Lawrence as Maria. I was 16 years old.:cool: I have the sound track from the stage.....much better singing.


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