DVD vs CD?
 

I have a really favorite thing... and it is only available on
DVD and YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zucZ5LEuTcI

This piece is on an album CD, but that does not have good sound, or Hayley's sister on back up.

If I bought the DVD (available on Amazon)...could I isolate the sound and copy it to MP3 and/or CD for my car?

Because Hayley is from New Zealand, there are just limited versions available. This concert is NOT on CD anywhere, I've looked and looked.

I just love this song!

Can anyone help with this?

mrsD, check this out.

http://www.hayleywestenra.com/

Down the bottom. Album "Pure".
ITunes USA.

It might be studio version on that CD though and not the live version that you really are wanting.

There is also a mixed artists CD called "Bravo" with that particular song on it.
Not sure if this is the live version either.
http://shop.abc.net.au/browse/produc...oductid=368346

If I can help in any way please let me know. I can look around here.

I'm sure there's a way to get the track's sound off the DVD but I'm sorry I just don't know myself.

That song is available on Hayley's album/CD named "Pure". It's the last track at number 12. Sanity Music stores here in Australia stock it. http://www.sanity.com.au/product/pro...sp?sku=1140982

It's also available on this CD of mixed artists. It's track 9.
http://www.sanity.com.au/product/pro...sp?sku=1201040

Let me know if I can help.

LOL Lara! Great minds think alike. We were posting at the same time. :D

OK. Made a phone call.

You apparently can do everything that you asked about, mrsD, (except actually physically burn to the cd) with a free programme called MPEG Streamclip.

The person I was just speaking with loaded it up while I was on the phone and went through the process.

more on Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_Streamclip

Okay...
 

I'll try that, Lara.

I already bought the MP3 version from Pure from Amazon.

It is vastly inferior to the live concert version. It is terrible on my Sansa player--too tinny.

This weekend, I'll check out that conversion. My son said it was illegal? First I have to buy the DVD.

Koala-- that might be it! I wonder if the CD is a format that works in USA?

The version with her sister is so much better than the Pure album version... no comparison!

What's illegal? The MPEG Streamclip programme?

How is it illegal to copy from your own DVD player to your own CD? It'd be illegal if you sold multiple copies, but I don't see how that is illegal.

The person I was talking with and who suggested it has it on their Mac. Just a different version. Says it does exactly what you want. I think the Feds would be after people who do more serious things than copy one track from their own DVD to a CD for their own use. lol hey?

Edited later to add:
:icon_redface: I sure hope I'm not suggesting something that is illegal.
That's the last thing I'd ever want to do. lol *ack :icon_redface:

I can't see any reason why an Australian CD wouldn't play on your CD player mrsD. One of our NT member has sent me 2 CDs now from the USA, and I have no problem playing them here.

DVDs on the other hand are not interchangeable. Australian DVDs are formatted for the Australian market - PAL format and region 4. They would need to be reformatted in order for you to view on a DVD player. You can however, play our DVDs through most computers.

I have more info, but I'll send it via PM so as not to clog up this thread.



Actually I forgot to mention that I have a dear friend who lives in NZ, and if there was a particular version that you wanted, she may have better luck obtaining it for you in NZ, than I do here in Oz.

Also.....Did you notice on that second link that you can preview every track on the CD?

Lara...
 

You know I sent that question to my son, and he could have misunderstood..etc. Or he doesn't know what is now available.
I guess pirates do this, convert one type to another and sell. <shrugs>

He is learning now that he is out of school, how fast our memories and learning start to atrophy (if you don't use it all the time). He used to be really swift on the computer, and last time he was here to help me with the Evernote upgrades (he uses them at work), he managed to mess me up!
In my area of expertise, one can get REALLY stale, and I know how to avoid that. But he needs to still learn it.

Right now he is programming a new product at his job and then testing it out. And doing the help desk too. He says no matter how long or thoroughly you test it out, SOMETHING will remain as a bug... Personally I don't think I could do what he does!
I am biological and real, and this programming is too etherial for my mind! LOL

:hug:hello,

Any video on you tube can be downloaded with this program here ****FREE***
http://youtubedownload.altervista.org/

it will download it and you can convert it to play on your ipod or sansa etc....

this will solve a lot of problems for you.

roger:)

oh, cool...
 

This looks easier.

Thanks so much!

the CD coding are the same so CD's are universal...
(unless you get into FILE CD's then it can get a bit complicated but usually that won't matter)

DVD codings are different because it involves all these different MOVIE files...

just right off the top of my head, you've got .avi files, .vob files .dv files .MPEG files and in the MPEG files alone you have MPEG1 to MPEG10 to MPEG to the X

then, you have different Region Codes for DVD, US and Canada have region 1 and I think Australia DVD is region 2 and so on and so forth, so DVD's are not universal....

a person can make backup copies of whatever they own. If you own the DVD, Mrs. D, it is NOT illegal...it would be IF you sell it to me...LOL

I like that program Lara suggested and there are few other ones also. IF that one doesn't work for you, there are a couple of others...

:)

I may buy
 

the CD that Koala found.

I am researching that too.

You know how it goes, when you really really love something,
it moves you etc, and you have to have it!

I've found it mrsD! :D


This NZ store stocks quite a few of her CDs, and there's one called Hayley Westenra Live in Concert which has the song that you're after on it, and yes they ship overseas. :)
http://www.marbecks.co.nz/search/


Here's the details about the Live in Concert CD :
http://www.marbecks.co.nz/detail/ind...talogID=294531

She even has her own website. :winky:
http://www.hayleywestenra.com/

ohhhh...
 

That link goes to a DVD not a CD.....

Thanks anyway... this is a tough problem.

I need the CD in order to use it the way I need.

I really appreciate your help tho!

Drat! I'll keep trying.

yes...
 

This is tough...
That is why I came here.

I am going to talk to my son this weekend and see if it is at iTunes. If so he can get it for me.

I just need to know if that Bravo! Sony CD is still available. And if that selection is from the concert and NOT the Pure album.

This weekend I'll search some import CD places.

I checked Ebay twice and no go over there!

I'll check for you as soon as I'm able.

ok ladies and germs,

im sure you have all heard of peer to peer sharing. such as limewire.

here is the link for it on cnet

http://http://www.download.com/LimeW...-10051892.html

once you have it loaded it will place your music in the folder

c:/programfiles/limewire/sharedmusic

i reccomend you create a seperate folder in another drive or partition and name it what you want and in the options of the limewire for downloaded music make this your folder for downloaded music. also in options turn off uploading.




then you can search for your music that way.

security for limewire files is if the top file it finds and says it 54 to 100 bits dont download it. a song should be like this sample **3.61 MB (3,794,943 bytes) to be a song..***


have fun.

this is peer to peer sharing. so get on it and enjoy.



keep your antivirus programds and malware programs running when using any peer to peer programs.

imoho the internet is a public library. we pay our library fee each mont to use the intenet, so when we share a file we are basically sharing a book in a library.




roger.

update...
 

I bought the DVD from Amazon. It arrived today.

It is stunning. And very good sound, and only $13.

It is really nice on my computer. My son is going to rip it using some MAC program he found. He didn't want me to download anything...said it is "risky" since these are the types of programs that may be used for hacking/trojans etc.

Thank you to everyone for your help and ideas. I really appreciate your counsel.

more...
 

I just have to come back and say on this thread:

I am watching the bonus features today.

They are just amazing. Hayley's wonderful teacher, her lovely family! She shares her mother's beautiful eyes, and it is clear that this family is really exceptional. The beautiful voice does come from a beautiful heart.

It is times like this that I regret not having a daughter myself!
At least I can vicariously watch from a distance.

mRS. d.


AMYTHING ON THE INTERNET IS RISKY. HECK JUST TURNING ON YOUR COMPUTER IS RISKY. THERE ARE MANY WAYS ON THE INTERNET TO GET MUSIC WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT.

USING A PEER TO PEER CAN BE RISKY IF YOU GO SEARCHING FOR THE WRONG THINGS. ITS TO BAD YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR WHAT YA WANT AS IT IS OUT THERE FOR THE USING.


ROGER.

If you were a creator of a copyright or holder/owner of the work and depended on its sales and fees to make a living, you wouldn't have the same opinion. I know what I'm saying may not stop anyone from downloading illegally but at least know what you're doing when you do it.

In other words, do what you will but don't have any illusions that you're not hurting people and their ability to make a living -- you are.

I totally agree with you regarding those sort of copyright issues however what we were talking about originally on this thread, is copying one song from a DVD bought and owned by same someone, and using their own computer which they bought and own and to copy 1 song from the DVD onto their own CD to listen to in their own car.

All my investigations with copyright for this issue in my country appear to allow that. The only problem I see is if someone circumvented any Technological Protection Measures which the DVD may have and in my country that is still a somewhat controversial issue because it can also prevent legitimate use... e.g. educational purposes, fair dealing and personal use.

As I say, I'm not sure how it works in other countries, but I checked and re-checked when I suggested the programme to mrsD originally.

Yes, what you said is right, Lara. :) My response was specifically speaking to the tangent the thread branched out to, illegal downloading.

Thankyou. :o

I just was checking in case I was still suggesting something bad LOL

Oh, great -- now I have to go back and read the whole thread again more carefully, LOL! But what you said in the post below mine is correct. Under copyright law, you are allowed to copy it for your own personal use. If you want to get technical, it's one time...but the truth is, we all know that it's not that CD in the second car that's the crux of the problem!

Lol.

I can remeber in the 70's and 80's buying my cassetes carrying them around with me and sharing them with all my friends.

I still have one of my portable cassete players that has dual decks i can record from one to the next. We were never told then that we couldnt share,

corporate greed is why there is this whole copywrite/peer to peer sharing is bad thing started.

If i purchase something with my own money i have the right to share it with my friends. I do not have the right to copy and sekk them to my friends tho.

As all the world is now my friend i share what i can with them and they share back.

I do not make a profit from anything i share on the internet. As that is piracy.

If i download something for my own personal evaluation and delete it wwhen im done then i am a responsable downloader.


In our letigious society the rights of the users of the world wide web cannot be contorlled by any one government or company as it belongs to the world.


Roger.

Re: cassettes, that's actually not the case. To try to combat the "problem" as these companies saw it, there was a tax levied on blank recordable materials that was then distributed to owners and creators.

The pricing of CDs is really only part of the problem. "Free" will always be more appealing to some than "cheap". The current state of affairs has many components to it and the biggest reason we're here can probably be attributed to the lack of foresight and obstinacy on behalf of the recorded music industry to find a viable solution -- and most specifically the RIAA.

The crux of the matter is distribution. If creators and owners choose to put their stuff up on the internet, that's one thing but it is quite another for someone else to do it who does not have that right. It is not up to a user to determine whether to put something up on the internet and make the decision that something "belongs to the world". It is the call of the owners and creators, not the general public. Same reason pertains to why there are guidelines here on NT and other places on the internet for printed materials.

update on DVD music...
 

My son is here today, helping me photograph some of my work, and help us with computer stuff.

He downloaded a program called Audacity 1.3 Beta, to
convert my DVD to sound only.
He says as long as it is for private use (and not distributed)
it is okay. (so I won't be guilty?) I did buy the DVD, so I really didn't "steal" anything.

It converted the 3 songs I wanted easily and they exported to
Windows media play easily. We had to do some fiddling with changing the titles to be more accurate, but it went very well.

I am so pleased. This one cut is so superior to the Pure album,
the tinny irritating quality from the Pure album is not there at all..and I have Sophie, her beautifully talented sister doing the harmony.

He says this program will record anything that goes from your sound card to the speakers! I suppose this could be abused by some people, but it might be handy for live CE's on the net for me professionally etc.

Its good your son was able to help you. As with all music, video or programs if ones use is for private use only and not distribution then its ok. But then on the other hand. There are some that would argue that even with your son stripping the audio track from the dvd to use in you media player or i pod for example is breaking the copywrite infringement laws as stated in the terms of use for the dvd you purchased.

Sounds like im the devils advocate but heck im a power user of the internet and enjoy every megabyte thats availabvle to us in the world.



Roger.

Enjoy your music.

mrsD, you're okay. :)