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kelly6449ed 02-09-2009 01:25 PM

Epsom Salt and RSD please read
 
Hello All

I need to know how many use Epsom Salt? And if your Dr's say to use it?

I need everyone, to please send me there info, via posting or in a PM

thank you
Kelly

Jomar 02-09-2009 01:48 PM

Hi kelly,
I know on other forums many use Epsom salts in the bath water or foot tub, for muscle cramps & soreness.

daniella 02-09-2009 02:55 PM

I tried it because a doctor suggested it to me. I didn't like it and I didn't feel soothed but that is only me. I have heard it helps others not so much rsd people but with other chronic conditions.

buckwheat 02-09-2009 03:16 PM

Dear Kelly,

Why don't you ask your MD?? Much Love, Roz

kelly6449ed 02-09-2009 03:18 PM

I would if I had one,

I am fighting me auto ins co, to give me back my bennys, so I can see a Dr


thank you

MominPainRSD 02-09-2009 03:35 PM

I have run across several links that actually suggested that Epsom Salts are beneficial even down to the cellular level.....having something to do with Potassium and Calcium. I am sick at the moment, but will look it up and send as soon as I'm able. You have to soak the affected area for 20 minutes several times a day to see a lot of relief. Kelly.....I'll PM you later once I'm feeling better!! Hope you're having a good day!!! Hugs....

kelly6449ed 02-09-2009 03:40 PM

thank you mominpain

I am sorry to hear you are not feeling well, hope you feel better soon

and I will look for your PM later

hugs
Kelly

angelrsd 02-09-2009 04:20 PM

hi i use epsom salt alot for muscle craps and soreness in my legs my docs told me bout it years ago

-carrie

MominPainRSD 02-10-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly6449ed (Post 462851)
Hello All

I need to know how many use Epsom Salt? And if your Dr's say to use it?

I need everyone, to please send me there info, via posting or in a PM

thank you
Kelly

Dear Kelly,

As promised, I have found a few links regarding the use of Epsom Salts and how and why it works. Some people may react differently, depending on how far their RSD has progressed or where it is located, but I find this intriguing nonetheless. It does seem to move it past the "old wives tale" status into medical legitimacy. The biggest problem for ME is sitting still long enough to soak my full 20 minutes!! I hope this helps!!! Hoping that this brings SOMEONE some relief out there!!!

Use Epsom salt and almost hot water on a frequent basis.
The Epsom salt being "hyperosmolar" magnesium sulfate
(meaning the magnesium sulfate has an extraordinarily
high potential for the movement of molecules) saturates
the extracellular space with magnesium. This secondarily
works as a calcium channel blocker, and improves the
function of the nerves in the skin and subcutaneous tissue
helping the nerve to regrow. As a matter of fact, Epsom
salt and hot water should be the daily routine for
treatment of RSD and should totally replace the harmful
damage of cold water exposure.

http://www.health-boundaries-bite.com/EpsomSalt.html

This was from Dr. Hooshmand's site:
Yes, the magnesium enters into the body profusely and acts as a calcium channel blocker. The calcium channel blocker effect of the magnesium prevents stroke, heart attack, and stops the constant epileptic seizures that kills pregnant women suffering from eclampsia.
Epsom salt soaking helps the patient by acting as an osmotic agent, extracting the poisonous and irritative chemicals from the involved extremity through the skin. In addition, the magnesium in itself acts as a calcium channel blocker which helps reduce the pain, inflammation, edema and breakdown of tissues.


http://www.rsdrx.com/rsdpuz4.0/puz_134.htm


Soak RSD affected limbs in epsom salt bath/dish to get blood circulation to nourish skin, plus it warms the limb at the same time. Epsom salts is a calcium channel blocker, thus vasodilation occurs.

http://www.rsdalert.co.uk/tipsutold/tips08.htm

:grouphug:

Curious 02-10-2009 10:21 AM

Mom, if you can't sit there, try soaking a towel in the espon salt solution and putting it on your leg. A light weight towel or gauze. Gauze might work better, so it's not something heavy.

I broke my hand in November, which hasn't healed correctly. I soak a wash cloth in espon salt water and put it on my hand. It sure helps and is less of a hassle than a bowl of water.

I do use the bath for a good soak once in awhile. I have a bad back. Not as often as I like. But even a warm hand towel with espon salt helps there too.

mrsD 02-10-2009 10:27 AM

Please...
 
DO NOT use epsom salts as an enema.

You can poison yourself this way.

For soaking it is a great symptom reducer. Those who have
dramatic improvements with epsom salts, need to consider improving the diet to contain more magnesium, or to take
supplements. Many people are low in this mineral.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

For supplement doses aim for 1/2 the RDA which is about 200mg of elemental. The above post has alot information I have gathered over the years to help.

There are other things that help block the NMDA receptors for pain.

zinc
melatonin (recently discovered)
magnesium

MominPainRSD 02-10-2009 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 463397)
DO NOT use epsom salts as an enema.

You can poison yourself this way.

For soaking it is a great symptom reducer. Those who have
dramatic improvements with epsom salts, need to consider improving the diet to contain more magnesium, or to take
supplements. Many people are low in this mineral.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

For supplement doses aim for 1/2 the RDA which is about 200mg of elemental. The above post has alot information I have gathered over the years to help.

There are other things that help block the NMDA receptors for pain.

zinc
melatonin (recently discovered)
magnesium

Thank you so much for clarifying that! I posted this on my first cup of coffee and didn't think the edit that out. You are right, many of us ARE low on Magnesium.....I take a supplement before bed. I will go in and edit my post regarding the enema part so as not to confuse anyone. Thanks again!!

mrsD 02-10-2009 11:14 AM

the actual risk of poisoning
 
with magnesium is very low. I have seen statistics in the 10-15 incidents/year range. Mostly these are infants or elderly, and often
involve enemas.

There is a considerable segment of the population who do colonics and enemas. And if they misuse epsom salts, then there may be a terrible accident.

Anyway... because of the colonic people, I wanted to clarify that.

One need not worry about oral magnesium unless you are severely kidney impaired or on dialysis. In that event you need a doctor's supervision.

daniella 02-10-2009 01:00 PM

I order my magnesium supplement online as it is the more absorbed kind. Mrs D helped me with this and getting the proper kind. Also when I saw a holistic doc he suggested it as well.
On the bath note when I was in MI and the cold I was taking a couple a day now in warmer climate I don't but did find baths helpful.

kelly6449ed 02-10-2009 01:09 PM

Thank you for all your response
oh no I would never put it in my body, I do use it on my feet, if I could I would bath in it ,,,smiles

Just wanted to know more about it, and RSD/CRPS
how it helps some,

Peace
Hugs
Kelly

DiMarie 02-10-2009 05:56 PM

I love my Epsom salts so much I buy them in the Lavendar. I think it is called Dr. Teal's. Just the aroma therapy itselfs helps me.

I also found thins great item to help me sleep...In my Biofreeze, I had a package of "Calm". Lemon flavor. I thought it was a tea bag. When I cooked the water and went to add it, the package were white powdery that efferessed. I tried it and dang, I slept for 5 hours straight relaxed.

I searched it out on the I-net and found that it is Magnisium sufate with Lemon flavor. That the one tsp is added to 6 oz of water, you can have up to 3 tsp a day, but watch for the irratable bowel that will follow ;)

I never suspected it. But if I did not have the sample called Calm first I never would have thought to even try it.
I am sold. I have a huge bottle about 32 oz, that shipped was half filled:confused:

It kind of acts like alka seltzer for a moment, then is soothing lemony hot drink,

I don't use it every night, but if I fail to fall asleep in an hour I will make a cup.
di

But it was under $10.

kelly6449ed 02-10-2009 06:22 PM

wow ,, you just sold me on that one Di

and making me hungry,,,,,,,,,,,, lemon is my fav, cake, frosting, anything


thank you everyone for there info on Epsom Salt,

Peace
Kelly
:hug:

Curious 02-10-2009 06:24 PM

Di the Calm settles a lot, kinda compacts down, but the oz's are there.

I weighed one I bought. :D

here is a link kelly
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=5122&at=0

MominPainRSD 02-10-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelly6449ed (Post 463618)
wow ,, you just sold me on that one Di

and making me hungry,,,,,,,,,,,, lemon is my fav, cake, frosting, anything


thank you everyone for there info on Epsom Salt,

Peace
Kelly
:hug:

Hey Kelly,
PM me your address and I'll send you my homemade lemon pound cake. YUM!!! :hug:

Imahotep 02-11-2009 10:32 PM

I'm not sure it helps but I do use it once in a while and find it very relaxing at least.


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