The baby factory
 

Just in case anyone is interested, Dateline is doing a story on the woman with the octuplets, it airs tonight.

Ann Curry interviews Nadya Suleman, who delivered octuplets on Jan. 26. Suleman sheds light on her headline-grabbing story.

AMN here I thought you were writing a thread about me..lol

Every time I see Ms. Suleman on television it's sadly obvious that she's basking in all this attention ....that she's getting for all the wrong reasons (something she doesn't appear to be hip to). This isn't about the kids, it's definitely all about her and she's treating it like her 'star turn'. ICK.

Thanks Cin, we have it set to record. No matter how we may feel about the mother, the fertility doctor in my honest opinion is at fault. He has a moral obligation to "do no harm" and no one will know for sure the harm done to these babies until they start to grow.

All we can do is pray everything works out. This isn't the only large family out there but it sure does stir up emotions.

LOL, Sarah, I actually thought of you when I was considering the title.

Bec, I don't watch that much TV, ever, so this was the first time I'd heard of an interview of her. All I've heard so far was that she/they accept welfare. Is it a form of Munchausen by Proxy? I'm interested in the psychology of a woman who is building her identity out of innocent little people.

Sandy, what really burns my butt is that I can't even find a flippin' affordable apartment for one!



And Shelley, what burns your butt?

What burns my butt is as a taxpayer in California I am supporting her welfare payment and medicaid and food costs and I have paid my taxes all year long and the state can't afford to give me my lousy state tax refund but they can pay for all of her care? :mad: I fully supoort those that need help but she crossed the line and I have no sympathy or empathy for her. The kids are another matter, they did not ask for this.

Personally I think she is not in her right mind and all of her children should be removed and given to parents who can give them the love they each individually deserve.

This woman should not think of childbearing and childrearing as a freaking reality show on TV.

Oh yeah and the doctor that did this should pay child supoort.

Amen Shelley! Those poor kids.

She said that her life is all about the kids. She has 14 now. When is she going to find time to finish school and to actually go to work? She already has three kids with disabilities. The odds are that the preemies could all have them too.

In the interview it was noted that she has had plastic surgery and somewhat resembles and acts like Angelina Jolie. :eek: Can she just be copying a celebrity to get her 15 minutes of fame with all of these babies?

There's an article in the News Headlines Forum about this that you may not have seen : http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post463835-1.html

It just irks the hell out of me whenever I see her on TV! I no longer live in California. But if I did, I would be ****** as hell about footing the bill for this irresponsible act.

I would also be calling for the fertility doctor's license to be revoked.

This lady just seems to be sucking at the teat of the public welfare system. Her only sources of income appear to be the state, food stamps, SSI, etc. It is just WRONG in so many ways! Oh, I guess she received a $100,000 settlement in some previous case. That won't go very far in paying hospital costs and the raising of 8 new kids!

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Sigh....
 

This subject is just SO disturbing.

Watching the narcissism of this young woman on TV and the net
is actually painful!

You know, years ago, more than 25 yrs now, a friend of ours had a ONE preemie. It cost them 3/4 of a MILLION dollars to get that baby up to discharge to home level. She weighed 1.5 lbs at birth.
Our friend was pumping milk every day and taking it to the neonatal ICU. It was totally stressful for everyone. One day she fell asleep for a nap while sterilizing the breast pump equipment and the kitchen caught on fire, and they had to deal with THAT.

It is totally beyond my comprehension how this young mother will deal with this stuff. Six previous children? That alone is
a huge responsibility. I suspect this will end in Child protection services taking the kids away. I can't see a narcissistic person like this mother, even doing a fair job with them all. WHEW!!

I'm not buying the fact that she worked double shifts, ect to pay for all those IVF procedures. Oh yeah, she got a disability settlement, too. We know a couple who did IVF twice and the cost was astronomical. But, the father makes a good living and they provide a loving homelife.

One of my gripes is that she has a beautiful son w/Autism, yet decided to bring multiple babies into the mix. My brother has an Austistic child and it take alot of care and love to provide a calm atmosphere for him. Any type of loud excitement upsets his DS. I agree, this woman is looking for handouts by going so public.

Maybe she thinks she will be the next Jon and Kate Plus 8! I think she's a strange one!

I also agree that the Dr should be put under the microscope on this one!!
Those poor babies~ They are so beautiful and they ended up in a very bad situation.

God bless the babies, who asked for none of this.:(

grrrrrrrrrr...:mad::mad:...My nephew is also autistic and the amount of
care is constant....poor little guy.:( the children will be in my prayers.

I watched Dateline as well last night as I wanted to hear what the mom had to say. However, as I started watching, for me, it became less about the mom and more about the social issues, health & safety issues, and more importantly the medical issues of the situation.

I can't make a "judgement" on this mom as I really couldn't quite figure her out. The fact that she resembled Angelina Jolie is a mute point for me as there was a time that many people got lip implants to look like her and/or Pamela Anderson or butt implants to look like Jennifer Lopez. To me, it is ridiculous to make that comparison as that is not really the biggest issue. However, she appeared far to calm and was a little inconsistent in her statements, and kind of contradicted herself. I would be a wreck if I were in this situation; married or not, other kids at home or not. Not to mention, I would be so worried about my kids that I would not be doing any interviews. I would be where I needed to be - either at home with the others or at the hospital with the babies.

I did have some concerns about the safety of the kids at home. The hate mail that came in and threats are terrible. There are so many people outraged it would take 1 nut case to go to the home and cause some type of harm to them all. That concerned me as that would not be this woman's fault.

Additionally, I think the biggest questions that came to mind were all the ethical questions. According to the program, in each of her pregnancies she was inserted with 6 frozen embryos. The one doctor said the most they ever should do are 3 frozen embryos at a time. Therefore, what was her dr. thinking? Why did he insert so many? Was it really because she had some failed IVF's?

Also, maybe because of my working in healthcare, why didn't the fertility dr recommend a psych evaluation and counseling for this woman prior to doing the IVF. I think this situation certainly warranted an evaluation as well as counseling prior to doing the procedure. And, why did this dr agree to do this over and over again for her. Quite honestly, he put her and these kids' health at risk. Was it greed? I really feel he failed to follow not only standard protocols and mentoring, but failed to follow medical ethics.

Our local NBC station thought this interview was more important than the weather. The only station that ran regular shows.

We had tornados last night. Very severe weather.

NBC only showed the weather during commercials. Sorry, but her story is not more important than alerting people and keeping them safe.

This lady doesn't need any more publicty.

before and after photos...
 

This is a before plastic surgery photo:

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/20...plet_mom_7.php

This is an "after" photo, also showing comparison to Angelina Jolie:
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famec...e-wannabe.aspx

The first photo shows how small her first children are while she is PG with the 8.

What disabilities do her children have? I just saw them on tv tonight and they didn't show the disabled ones. The audio was terrible. She mentioned what they had but no one could understand what she said.

With all the plastic surgery on her face, and swollen lips, this woman needed 8 more children like a hole in the head.

Good Grief.

Melody

I think that is just another thing that illustrates her mental instability. I hope they'll find good homes for those kids.

Was the name of the dr ever mentioned the one who did the fertility implants?

I found it-
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...erican-so.html
[The American Society for Reproductive Medicine said it is going to look into the case of the Whittier mother who gave birth to octuplets last month -- and who now has 14 children.

The mother, 33-year-old Nadya Suleman, went to a Beverly Hills doctor, whose fertility treatment led to the birth of her octuplets -- and her six previous children.

West Coast IVF Clinic is run by Dr. Michael M. Kamrava, who has declined to comment about the case. The California Medical Board previously announced an investigation, and the reproductive medicine society is now following suit.

"We are pleased that the California Medical Board has announced they will be investigating this matter, and we are prepared to assist them in any way we can," said R. Dale McClure, president of the society, in a statement.

"We too have contacted Ms. Suleman and the physician named in the interview in order to learn more about the circumstances leading to her octuplet pregnancy. Only when we obtain and evaluate such information will we be able to determine an appropriate course of action," McClure added.

According to federal records reviewed by The Times, of the 61 procedures Kamrava conducted in 2006 -- the most recent data available -- only five resulted in pregnancies and only two of those resulted in births. One of those births was Suleman's twins.]



and
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6825726
http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11675954

All that primping and plastic surgery atleast the lips and the fuller cheeks is the lovely work of her new PR people as they package her to present to the world to get the largest amount of money and offers possible. Ah Hollywood...if you all could really see the behind the scenes of how it all works. Everthing is manipulated, things you would not even imagine. I am sure she had Ann Curry's questions in advance and answers were written for her. And the Angelina Jolie comparison is no mistake its calculated

It has been on the news out here. THey have even shown footage of him in earlier interviews

Amen, DM!I agree with you, wholeheartedly.

Kitty,

I don't watch Dr. Phil. But I think that Child Services should get involved. This lady cannot possibly be a good mother to 14 children with no means of support except for government services.

Despite her claims of best intentions.

3 of her first 6 children are autistic.

:(

I watched some of the Dr Phil episode yesterday.

I think he was spot on.

We all do need to think about these kids.

I will tell ya, I will boycot any tv station like TLC if they produce a show about her and her family. Same goes for product endorsements or commercials that run during those shows. Usually the same products they get free.

The Jon & Kate plus 8, the Duggers and that other big family are more than enough. They all get paid and get tons of free stuff.

Enough is enough.

Kell, you are so right about the living conditions, is it even legal to do that? What kind of neighborhood is it?

The word "exploitation" comes into mind every time I think about what kind of hope for a future those children will have.

Bully for her that she loves babies, but she doesn't seem to realize that they will grow up and eventually see the reality of their situation.

It is so irresponsible of her to do this and it sickens me that she seems so proud of herself.

If she was trying to adopt or foster, she would be turned down. Not only because of her housing situation, but no income.

i have no comment i am upset about this in many ways. 6 wasnt enough now 8 more and these will take away from the 6 I dont follow the logic of any of this and if a doc is responsible put em in the stockades and throw rotten cabbage at him and take his license away. how are they going to work 4 jobs each and care for the kids. cause they are gonna need a lot of money.

why not help some unfortunate kid and adopt oh arghhh ughhh egads i am so POed about this whole subject am glad babies and mom are doing well i just dont understand the logic and or lack thereof, like i said i have no comment:Bang-Head:

But wait, there's more! She has launched a website boldly asking for donations! What a freakin' racketeer! This is unbelievable.

So, if half the world gives her a single dollar, she will be a multi-millionaire in a matter of tax-free minutes. Does anyone else catch the stink of some incredibly sick plan that began as a chat over drinks while lamenting the woes of single motherhood?

Is she mocking this entire country now??:mad::mad:

She sure is. That's why she has stated that she won't be getting more food stamps.

She had it all planned.

She and her handlers (PR folks) will all make a bundle off of this event.

(1) A book deal...
(2) A movie deal...
(3) Free clothes from a generous company seeking exposure...
(4) Free home...(ala Extr. Home Makeover, etc)...
(5) Donations (oops, she is already getting them)...

At least she is an ecological winner biologically....:eek:

-Vic

*Did she get some of the Bailout?

I will be Curious (ha - monkey!) but right now I do not think any advertsier will touch this with a ten foot pole based on the public reaction until those kids are removed from her custody. After that I do not have a problem with someone helping the kidsa as long as the money does not go to her.

She is delusional! Hope she enjoys her 15 minutes of Fame its almost up