Obama to Lift Ban on Funding for Embryonic Stem Cell Research
 

nope - don't like it (stem cell research unless it's from umbilical cords)- it has to be carefully watched and I doubt the watchers are up to the task -

I'd rather see it come from the stem cells in cord blood, rather than from embryos. I'm all for stem cell research, but I've been changing my views and opinion on abortion recently.

I think that when babies are born, the mothers should have the choice of saving the cord blood for future use if their kid gets sick, or they should be offered the choice to donate the cord blood for research or to help someone else.

Im so torn over this stuff. I believe in pro choice, but I personally could never do it. I see that so many abortions happen in this country, and we are currently throwing those babies in the trash. Wouuldnt saving those babies to research and find cures for a disease be a better ending than the trash can? I am NOT advocating that women line up to start donating their embryoes, but if they are already in existance, and being wasted, then isnt that just as much of a shame as doing it in the first place? I am so torn on this issue. I want research to find cures for diabetes, and MS, and I want those with injured spinal cords to walk, but I dont want babies being used to do it. Since these babies are just being tossed, why not bring at least some value to their unlived lives? :confused:

I could go round and round in my head all day. :o

Well this should bring up a lot of discussion..rightly so.

Hundredes of embryos are made every day for those trying to have a baby.. and the rest are frozen or destroyed.

Think about it..you can not have a baby until its implanted in the womb..or some simulation of the womb.

ALL cells are LIVING.. but each has a purpose for sustaining life.

So the fertilized eggs that are thrown away.. no one raises protests..THOSE are the cells to be used to create new life..and give someone seriously ill..or with a chronic illness have a chance at living well.

Just another way to think about it....another way of giving life..

Using the cord blood I am not against. I think that is great if they
can help cure someone from what they find out with the cord blood.

I am totally, totally against using embryos. They are human lives.
What gives them the right to kill these poor babies that don't have a
chance to fight for themselves.

We have to fight for them.

I do want to see cures for all the diseases, but not by using human
life.

To me these scientists are trying to play "GOD" What are they going
to try to do next?

I feel also that there is no reason for anyone to get an Abortion. There
is so much help out there for these women. Also no reason to dump them
in the garbage. So many places to drop off the babies and no questions
asked.

WELL THIS IS JUST ME EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS

Jappy

Those fertilized eggs could be donated to women who dont have their own eggs but have perfectly working equipment otherwise.

It's controversial, but it could save millions of lives down the road, and millions of eventually to be born babies who could develop any of the conditions in this research.

While Obama's at it, he should see about finally getting marijuana legalized for medicinal use country-wide.

I'm all for stem cell research. Its the cellular level. As for the morality of it, I'm Catholic and I don't know that the Church knows how God feels about this type of research at the cellular level. I don't know how I feel about it so how can they be any clearer as to God's feelings on the issue. I mean, if He didn't want us to do it why allow us the technology and why not spell it out in plain view. Why all the ambiguity?

I understand its a very political subject and has implications regarding abortion. I am against abortion but I don't know that the two are as related as most say. So I cannot outlaw it or condemn those who want to try to use this science to better society. Of course, it has its limits and I don't want us harvesting humans for use as we see fit.

Sounds hopeful, but two wrongs don't make it right.

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I am a fan of science.

Obiviously there's no way to post on this thread unless one is in agreement - is there ??

:confused:
you already did post and were not in agreement and there was no problem with your post ( #2 on the thread) so I am not sure just what this comment of yours means

I'm happy the ban was lifted,but hate that they're saying we're still years away in knowing if this will be a cure for spinal cord injuries and diseases. I think there's some promise in our own stem cells which would be so much less controversial than embryonic stem cells.

embryonic stem cells are cells that can become viable as a fetus. But these cells can become a liver just as easily or perhaps, with medical science, to repair the spinal chord injury.

These cells number in the hundreds of thousands and are destined to be DESTROYED. They are not ever going to be kept. Many couples have volunteered to have their embryonic stem cells donated for research. They do not wish to have their cells implanted in an infertile female. It is their cells and their choice.

I believe in the sanctity of life, the betterment of all life. The gift of donating an organ upon death is very much the same thing. Sometimes parents of a teen in a terrible auto accident may choose to donate organs, a heart so that someone can live.

It is the same with embryonic stem cells. Those cells have potential for life. There, my own 2 cents!:)

for those interested, there are some additional perspectives on the topic on the Parkinson's board

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread80677.html

I love that we are able to at least try to discuss this.

Yes, I agree 2 wrongs dont make a right, but I cant help but believe that this embryo that was destined for the trash now has a chance to benefit mankind. These embryos are already in creation, and the choice has already been made by their parent to not keep the cell growth headed towards that of a child to be either adopted, or kept. I am not going to get into that arguement, but am holding out hope for those that were already headed for the trash can now being able to do good things, instead of just becoming a waste product. I hope that makes sense. As I have said I am pro choice, but not sure I would have the courage to do it. I think it would take a great deal of courage to make that choice.

maybe I am being selfish here, but I WANT A CURE FOR THIS PIG DOG OF A DISEASE! I want the lame to walk, the blind to see, the deaf to hear, and the heartless to grow a heart. Organ donation is a great debater. I too am an organ donor, and if God forbid something happened to my children, we have already discussed it, and are all organ donors.

My lil head is spining. :o

Comment to Dejibo
 

I love all animals-dogs, pigs - so to me ms is slime, crud etc...maybe some humans ;) but not animals:D
I would never want an embryo to be created for science but those that would be discarded or could be used by science, I choose science.

I agree with you, Dejibo. It's good that we can discuss this controversial subject without getting ugly, and we don't need to do that. I am also pro-choice, but I don't think I could ever get an abortion. I know this is a very ethical issue, but personally, I'm glad that the ban was lifted. I also agree with Grammie--I don't want embryos being created for science either. But if they are already here, I don't have a problem with scientists using them to cure diseases. I know it could take years or decades, but the possibility of cures for MS, Parkinsons, Diabetes, and a million other diseases makes me very hopeful.

I agree with both sides...nuff said.:)