depressed and tired
 

i have been sleeping a lot. I just made an appointment to have my eyes checked. Of course I think the worse. I haven't had them checked in years. My driver's license is going to expire soon and i need new glasses.
my doctor said that the b12 shots might take some months to work for my pernicious anemia so i don't know how much the pernicious anemia is contributioning to my tiredness and depression. Everything is an effort
Bobby

Bobby, I slept a lot today also. I hope you will get some energy like I hope I do to also.

barbara

Dear Bobby,
 

i'm sorry things are still so rough and that the B12 doesn't kick in quicker.

but, tell you what. since you ARE anemic due to this absorption problem, you ARE bound to be fatigued... and depression often comes with it too.

from Wikipedia - Vitamin B12 deficiencysound familiar?

So, once the shots start correcting the deficiency and therefore the anemia and other issues........

I suspect you will feel a LOT better .

So, please have hope.

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Good for you making the eye appointment! I hate calling to make appointments like that it stresses me out when i am feeling rotten. I hope all goes smoothly with that.

do you think you will pick a new frame or just change lenses? ;)

:hug:

:heartthrob: ~ waves ~ :heartthrob:

Dear Bobby,
I'm sorry to hear that you are having a hard time.
'Sending you positive vibes so that you can start feeling good again soon.

Mari

There is a study showing that daily oral B12 will raise your levels within a month.

Anemia takes longer because your body has to MAKE new cells.
It is important to find out from your doctor if you should have
folic acid too, and iron. Making new blood cells requires alot of potassium, so make sure you are eating foods high in this:
oranges, cantaloupe, bananas, V8 juice.

If you are low in iron, the B12 will not do much.

from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ystem2.PEntrez. Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.P ubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4&log$=relatedarticles& logdbfrom=pubmed

We have two threads going at PN on page 1 right now if you'd like more information.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread80963.html
and
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread80537.html

heya
 

Bobby,

make sure you talk to your doc about all this, before adding supplements on your own, especially iron. when they diagnosed the anemia, they would have checked your iron. taking iron supplements when not needed can be detrimental - it is not discarded rapidly like some minerals and you can end up with an unhealthy level... can cause fatigue etc... similar symptoms to lack of iron.

there is also the need to check on the safety of taking additional supplements, and when to take them should you feel it is appropriate, because you are on a variety of other medications. some supplements can interfere with absorption of some medications. so it is important to check with your doctor about that aspect of things too before adding anything - even "natural" supplements.

hopefully, since you were diagnosed with pernicious anemia, you have already been informed of or better yet prescribed any other appropriate supplements needed to treat your specific condition, and in view of the meds you are taking.

hang in there young lady! ;) things will get better.

:heartthrob: ~ waves ~ :heartthrob:

Hi
I wasn't told to take anything but the shots once a month. My doctor said taking the pills every day might help. She knows I don't have a good diet. I see her on Wednesday and I will ask. Thank you. I am still tired. I am still depressed too. I will have to get new frames etc but right now I am concerned about the condition of my eyes since i haven't had them checked for years and now i also have diabetes.
Bobby

Dear Bobby,
Good luck on Wednesday
Try not to worry about your eyes until you get to the eye doc's office. You will be in good hands in the office. In the meantime, any thinking you are doing is speculation and not helpful.
(I'm working on trying to think of one minute / one day at a time too.)


The shots your dr ordered and the pills you are taking should help soon.
If they don't, check in with the doc and ask more specific questions about your blood tests and about possible new blood work.


This stuff is about process. We folks with bp are superstars when in comes to patience. We know to dip into our pool of patience.
Sometimes we don't want to, but we can.

I'm hoping you feel better after seeing the doc on Wednesday.

M.

I asked the dr if i needed to take anything for the anemia besides the shots and she said no. right now everything still seems too much for me. i am feeling so lonely but not reaching out to anyone except one person. I am irritatible a lot. I haven't been watching that much economic news in the past week. It is so painful. I have been watching dumb tv movies and feel guilty for not being productive. I feel so guilty for not being productive.

oh dear... sounds so familiar
 

Boy do i ever know how that feels. I'm so sorry. I wonder if you can somehow convince yourself that you're allowed not to be productive because you are feeling so poorly right now. You know when we are kids and sick, mom keeps us home and sends a note the next day or calls the school or whatever. And same with work, there is sick time. Just because you don't have those formalities, and because it's been a long and winding road, doesn't mean you don't deserve the break. You do. You just need to get through each day the best you can. And if that means watching stupid movies, or what have you, then so be it. Whatever floats your boat, literally whatever keeps from sinking!!!!

(but boy, i sure know how it feels, coz when i get like i can't do anything, i feel guilty too. i have a pin somewhere that says, "Reason will overcome instinct." hmph. i wish it would overcome feelings at times like this, too!)

now you hold on there, ok? things will get better.

:hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~ whose suspension expired this evening. ;) and you are the lucky recipient of my first returning post. ;) i still may not post much... i'm still kinda messy-mooded. but i thought i would pop in here just the same to let you know i understand. fwiw.

actually i used to like it when i had the energy to impulsively post...i am glad you had a short sentence....lol
thanks for the empathy....right now i am reading another junky book and not feeling guilty. I think i should be reading history books...maybe about famous people...using the library is too stressful.
the eye doctor was wonderful. i just have a developing cataract which is years away from needing treatment. He was sympathetic to my being bipolar and fears and said they will probably come out with better medication soon.
He had a baby grand in his waiting room. First time I saw that in a doctor's waiting room. He also had modern music playing. It might have been Scriabin.
Again I was too nervous to ask him about both.
I called my friend who I hadn't talked to in about four months to thank her for the referral. She got tired of my depression and told me my doctor wasn't helping me. Anyways, i finally called her and the operator's message said the phone was disconnected. she is in her late eighties and is sharp as a tack. I hope it meant that she moved. She had told me I would be notified whenshe died.
Bobby

Hi Bobby
 

That is great that you found such a cool eye doctor. Good to know the exam went well and he was so patient. Means the world, when we are unwell, doesn't it. Interesting office too. Maybe next time you will be less nervous and can ask him about the piano and music.

i sure hope your friend is ok and just moved. it was good of you to try and call her. if you have her address perhaps you can send a thank you note. if it can't be delivered, it will come back with a reason stamped on it by the post office. but that requires gathering stuff, composing, and mailing stuff. i dunno if you're up to that.

I can see how it can be good to post on impulse - if we are ok with what we would be posting. part of me wasn't a lot of the time. then i'd obsess on my own ambivalence like a dog chasing its tail! :eek: so knowing i couldn't post was useful - i could have asked to come back sooner but that would have defeated the purpose. i actually considered asking for another week's "hiatus" lol, but i'm too weak to be impuslive, and a lot of the negativity has somehow resolved. this class 3 hurricane is now down to tropical storm, lol. :D

as for the energy... sigh... i'm tired all the time now from the higher dose of Depakote even though i did quit the Zyprexa for now, since the pounds were coming on fast. and i'm still eating compulsively. doc says i'm ok to do that, but if i have even a single day that is exceptionally bad, to take it just for that night... to help prevent me from worsening again. using it not every day does not cause the metabolic changes. but i'm gonna keep off it for a week now, coz i'm still way hungry as well as compulsive with food. (The only atypicals available here are Seroquel and Zyprexa. In a pinch, i can take either one, but Zyprexa works much much much much better and verrrrrrrrrrrrrrry fasssst.)

Your post sounds a little more upbeat... i hope that means you have been feeling better... at times at least. ;) i know it can come and go at first but hey, even a little is better than nothing coming! even if it is not constant yet. :) it'll get there. meanwhile keep right one dong what you need to do to stay afloat, and being ok about it. ;)
:hug:
~ waves ~