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Doxie 03-31-2009 06:24 PM

Pain from epsom salt soak?
 
Fellow soakers;

Has anyone else experienced pain from soaking your feet in Epsom salts?

I have just pulled my feet from the water (lukewarm) on my 4th day of trying an Epsom salt soak because it was causing burning pain. Has anyone else had this happen to them? Should I continue - push through the pain for a greater good, so to speak, or stop?

I also take magnesium supplements. Could the epsom salts be too much?

Any comments are appreciated.
Doxie

Curious 03-31-2009 06:26 PM

Doxie, how much are you putting in the water? How much water?

:hug:

Kitt 03-31-2009 06:28 PM

That was my thought. How much is going into the water and how much water? The soak should not cause pain.

Curious 03-31-2009 06:33 PM

Another question...is there any pain with a plain water soak? Is this city water? Are you smelling any strong chlorine smell?

Questions questions...fun huh? :wink:

But really, you shouldn't be having pain. :hug:

Kitt 03-31-2009 07:03 PM

Another thought. The water I soak in is lukewarm but just barely. If it is just a tad too much then I will have pain. Now that would be water that others would think is pretty cool. My feet are extremely sensitive as many others who have CMT.

And, of course, there are those with CMT who can stand "really" warm water. Everyone is different.

Doxie 03-31-2009 07:08 PM

Answers to questions
 
All;

Thanks for all your questions and input!

I used about 1/4 cup of epsom salts to 4 quarts of water. The water is city water (No smells) and is lukewarm, maybe I should try cooler water and good point about trying a soak with nothing added. I will.

Anyone or anything else?

THX~
Doxie

dahlek 03-31-2009 07:16 PM

You are NOT crazy!
 
I'd followed Mrs D's instructions to the letter and 'did it'....
Don't know why, but after less than 2 minutes in the 'bath' I near jumped outta my skin!.
I'm taking my magnesium internally, thank you! No side effects, unless too much.
Some of us are more sensitive to such things than others... just chill and go an alternative route.

Doxie 03-31-2009 08:54 PM

Thanks
 
To All;

Thanks for the input.

Dahlek - glad to know I'm not alone, nor crazy (maybe a little). I believe that you, like me, get some relief from a cool (not cold) surface. I wonder if our nerves are related! :rolleyes:

As stated here and repeated by my docs, symptoms of PN can be as unique as the person who has them!

Grazie,
Doxie :grouphug:

Hope15 03-31-2009 10:04 PM

Oh dear..... today I just bought a little soaking tub and some epsom salts. I also take magneseum supplements. Now I'm kinda of hesitate to try it...:confused:

mrsD 03-31-2009 10:29 PM

I have never had pain from epsom salts. I always soak in the tub and don't use foot baths.

You may be using too much. I'd cut back to an ounce/gallon, maximum.

4 quarts is not very much water. At high concentrations it might sting like any salt would on any open areas of the skin.

Examine your feet and see if you have cracks in the skin, or athlete's foot, or any open areas. People with numbness in the feet often have small injuries they don't notice.
Now would be the time to find these areas, before they become infected with something. (fungal or bacterial).

mrsD 04-01-2009 07:24 AM

I use about 4 ounces in the BATH TUB... soak up to my ankles.
Sometimes I will sit in it for a while too. It is totally relaxing.
Getting out you have to be careful... epsom salts make things slippery.

In a small dishpan size tub the 4 ounces would be too concentrated I think. But you could use it for compresses that way. I've done that on vacation where there is no bath tub.
I did my knee that way and just kept rewetting the cloth, with the concentrated salts..worked really well.

mrsD 04-01-2009 11:24 AM

Well I did my big soak today, and checked the bag of epsom salts I use for it, and it said 2 CUPS per gallon! That has to be a typo..error!

I NEVER use that much! I put in my typical small dixie cup and it was splendid. I go up past the ankles, because my left has that old surgery scarring, and that ankle bothers me sometimes.
( I had a cavernous hemangioma removed from the top of that foot when I was 12).

Kitt 04-01-2009 03:40 PM

On the bag of Epson Salt it says the same -2 cups per gallon. I never use that much either. I use 1/2 of a 3 oz. dixie cup. That works fine. I also go past my ankles.

It also says 2 cups in your bath water. I shower so that doesn't pertain to me.

Curious 04-01-2009 03:45 PM

It gets hot here in Texas...duh..I have used cold water straight from the tap..which in the summer is not cold :rolleyes:. It's very refreshing and soothing. Cools me off too. :D

But I would say never more than a 1/4 cup if even that to a large foot tub.

Hope15 04-02-2009 09:27 AM

Well, I finally did my first epsom soak in a small plastic dish tub. I just put in a pinch of the salts to luke warm water. I'm happy to say it all worked out and felt very nice. Thank goodness for that, because my feet are really getting worse and any additional relief that I can find is wonderful....

Mermaid2260 04-02-2009 05:33 PM

Epsom salt soaking?
 
If the pain continues I would see a Dr. I had a problem with the bottom of my feet; eventually it became excruciating. Ended up with 3 seizures all tonic clonic. I was told usually when you have a fluke seizure; their is an underlying problem. See your primary physician you should take pain killers for a short time, and probably need an ant-inflammatory. I would ask for a referral to a Rheumatologist...Sometimes it takes an illness to be highly symptomatic for you to get the attention you need. Good Luck!

Patricialyn 04-04-2009 12:27 PM

Dear Friends,

Is there a therapeutic component in Epsom salts that can relieve symptoms of PN?

Also, I don't understand the relationship between taking magnesium, and soaking in Epsom salt, which Hope15 remarked on but did not specify, could you explain please?

Thanks.:)

Patty

mrsD 04-04-2009 12:42 PM

Epsom salts have magnesium in them. Magnesium is absorbed a little thru the skin, and it improves circulation where the person soaks. Small blood vessels close up during inflammation and nutrients in the blood then cannot get to where they are needed.

Magnesium also works orally, but in parts of the body that are not receiving good blood supply it doesn't reach where it is needed.

Magnesium helps with pain because it blocks calcium which activates the NMDA receptors in nerves that signal pain response. So magnesium is calming and reduces discomfort.

Epsom salts are especially good for people with Raynaud's syndrome, where the hands and feet get really cold. My son uses soaks for his hands when they bother him.

If you soak in a bathtub for a while (up to an hour) that has epsom salts, your muscles will be more relaxed, your skin softer and you will in general feel much better.

Patricialyn 04-04-2009 01:56 PM

mrsD,

Thanks for that information. I will surly give Epsom salt a try, since in addition to having having PN, I was diagnosed with Raynaud's syndrome and have had that disorder since a very young age. My toes actually turn blue!:eek: at times. My fingers are not as sensitive, but still are affected.

I have a hard time keeping my feet mainly toes warm, as I sit here I have a little foot heater, my husband thinks I am crazy.

For me having Raynaud's is really an annoyance due to I live in WNY, where we have more cold than warm weather, and I am a snowmobiler.

I just starting taking magnesium pills, so I am hoping for some good happenings from that as well as the Epsom salts.

Patty

Kitt 04-04-2009 09:07 PM

The hands and feet get really cold with CMT as well. Lots of the time, you don't really know it but if you feel them, they are cold.

However, I soak my feet in very lukewarm water and about 1/2 of a 3 oz. dixie cup of Epsom Salt. Any warmer water and they can hurt. That's how water that is too warm affects me. Another person might think the water is really cool.

I do this because my feet get crampy and this helps. I do not do it because they are cold. However, they will warm up during the night. It's just the way CMT is.

pabb 04-06-2009 03:26 PM

hmm my epson salts ,,aaron brand, says 1/2 cup to quart and apply cloths soaked in this....or 2 cups to the bath tube for a bath......

Kitt 04-06-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pabb (Post 492155)
hmm my epson salts ,,aaron brand, says 1/2 cup to quart and apply cloths soaked in this....or 2 cups to the bath tube for a bath......

Yes, on the bag of Epsom salts I have, it says that as well. 1/2 Cup to a quart of water would probably be about right. For myself, I would never use that much. I also do not take baths (I shower) and I have not had to apply soaked cloths with it.

I get crampy feet from the water if it's too warm not from the Epsom Salts. If the water is really lukewarm, it will take away any crampiness in my feet that I might have. Everyone is different even those with CMT. Some like it really warm and it works for them. But not for me.


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