Weekend Check-in: Friday, April 24, 2009 Earth Week
 

Hi,

His is a place to post your updates if you want.

I'm tired. I fell asleep in my chair at the computer.


This is the end of Earth Week.
Do any of you get out side to do things in the open air? I wish that I got out more.
M.


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Hi Mari,

I do get outside to work. I worked in my garden yesterday. I put newspapers down in my garden so that the paper will kill the weeds. Maybe today I'll buy some mulch and put that on top of the paper to hold it down better. For now I put rocks on the newspaper to hold it down. My garden is very rocky though.

barbara

:)

Dear Barbara,
Gardening sounds like a wonderful activity.
It is nice also to see the results of the work when the flowers come up.
M.

Hi Mari and Barbara
 

Happy Earth Week to you and everyone here, also.

Mari,

I love the pic... although i wouldn't want to get near that Moray poking it's nose out on the left side... at least... looks like a Moray. Sure they're timid enough... unless you get in their way, lol. Then out come the BiG poInTY TEETH to use a Monty Python expression.

Barbara,

Cool that you are working on your garden. I live in an apartment but we have plants. I have 3 plants. My older african violet needs repotting/adjustment badly but i'm not sure how to go about it... i wouldn't want to destroy it trying.

When i cleaned it (mom said to) with a brush it ended up losing all its leaves. It grew more but where it lost them is now bare stem... first African Violet "mini-tree" i've seen. Now that the stem has dried out, i want to try sinking it into the ground hoping it will set roots, so the foliage will be closer to the ground and the plant more stable coz it's top heavy and falling all over the place as it is. But i'm afraid it might decide not to sprout roots and rot on me instead. :Sigh:

That violet, btw, before mom said to clean it, erhmmm, was flourishing. It had bloomed indoors several times and probably would have again. It has not since. It has been all i could do with plant food just getting it to start making foliage in the proper shapes and color again. the top looks good now and it's losing the lower / less healthy leaves that it first made (after the cleaning)... which of course means it will get even more umbrella-looking. :rolleyes: :Sigh:

If we have any African violet experts on board who can make suggestions on this very peculiar situation, i would welcome any input, whether or not i am then brave enough to follow up.

~~~

Made most of the backups of the Vista System. One more i want to do - it isn't suggested anywhere but they do warn that software won't be supported. So, it may not run on XP, but then again it may. Of course, i have no assurance that the "recovery disks" made by their instructions will work either, should i need them. :(. (no way to test without destroying the system). Anyway, 1 CD to burn and then up goes XP, fingers crossed everything will behave.

~~~

:Sigh: I hate this stuff. I wish i had something restorative, constructive and NOT SCARY to do - i.e. not risking tearing apart a new system or possibly killing a plant.

~~~

Well this is what is going on, but as for plans, i have very firm un-plans for this weekend. I hope to sing/play some more, at some point. been doing that. getting back into shape (music wise, not body wise... heh GROAN). I am not sure that music is constructive and right now it is not even restorative... but i seem to be clinging to it for dear life.

~ waves ~

Mari, I love to see the results of my garden. I just hope that the inpatients I planted today will not die cause I got the wrong kind.

Waves, I don't know anything about African Violets. I only know inpatients. I bought the kind of inpatient for the shade by mistake because my yard is sunny most the day. I didn't feel like going back to get the right kind though cause my back was killing me and the lines were long. I did plant about 5 inpatients though after putting some mulch down. I'll have to water them tonight. I planted the back row 1st so the 1st row will not smother out the back row. The front row should be smaller so you can see the back row easy. I hope the ones I planted today on the back row won't die becasue they are the wrong ones. I could never live it down if my garden failed and my next door neighbor has all her pretty houseplants outside. So keep your fingers crossed for me.

The way I found out about inpatients was asking people like you are about African Violets. Also, there is always the option of googling in care of the African Violet.

Not feeling so well, I had a pain management Dr. appt today and told him about some new pain I am having, it's been seven years since my last MRI and he wants to get me on MONDAY for a fresh one on my neck. I got up out of bed about a month ago and had turned my head and got a sharp pain in my neck and then it snaps after I raise my arms up shoulder high with ANY weight bearing....

The diagnositic testing he did on me made me HURT and he said based on what I told him about NO weakness in the muscles and NO numbness that it's probably a nerniated disc and most likely NOT pinching a nerve, we'll see, I am so anxious about this MRI...I have known it was coming though because of the pain this past month...I just hate this, its an open MRI machine thank heavens, but even so I think I will be taking my lorazepam when I go into the machine, bring a def leppard CD and just PRAY it goes well the first time so they don't have to redo anything.

I have been having really AWFUL panic attacks and just have a fear of this procedure...I hope it's going to be all right I am so scared guys, I hope that he doesn't want to shoot my neck in the spine, I can't handle that....He said if it was nerve pinching he'd reccommend an epidural. :eek: :( :confused:

Jackie had a great day today, his class went to a community park which has a little water park, not a pool, but like big old sprinklers and such, he's been doing better. The soccer ball is a lot of fun to play with. :) And he's enjoying it a lot. I don't know how the weekend will go, we have the aide coming out and I am taking over the work she does with Jackie, like using this communication book, the aide made it and we go over like six pages with fifty icons on it, and he tells us what they are, like pics of things from toys, to body parts and places and people. It's really helping him I think. :)

Mom is coming over but she's been having a bellyache for like over a month now and I am worried about her. She's all I got left and it scares me to think that she might not be around much longer. I need her still...so much...Hopefully we'll have a good weekend and the MRI will go by quickly and I won't have a panic attack IN the machine, that is what I am worried about, if I can get through the test okay then I have to wait until THURSDAY to get the results of the test from the dr when I go back in...I hope that it's not going to mean an epidural. So worried....

Other then these things it's getting better, the abilify is helping but not fully yet and the new blood pressure med has my high blood pressure under control again so all's well on that front. :) Hope everyone has a awesome weekend! :D :grouphug:

Braces: complaining
 

Hi,
I've had braces on since Valentine's Day.

I am wearing them because the night guard completely messed up my ability to chew food -- I was eating mush for a number of months.


In 10 weeks I have noticed a difference.
I can chew a few certain foods now that I could not before.

But it is still a hassle and I am learning to make them part of my life now. Tdoc said that in order to keep mood stability and functioning I had to learn to get a long with them. I need to let them be part of my day to day and go with the flow. I'm learning to do that little by little.

At night, the issue is brushing the teeth.
Somehow the braces have become tied into my very complicated and life-long issues about sleep ---- like I needed to add anything to my life that further complicates my ability to sleep. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Right now, I am putting off bushing / cleaning my teeth and I am putting off going to bed.

I'll work it out I hope.
Thanks for giving me some place to talk about this.:)




M.

bacterial meningitis in the workplace
 

Hi,

Late Friday afternoon I checked my email and saw / learned that a student in one of my classes has bacterial meningitis.

I am supposed to inform that particular class that
1. we might have all been exposed
2. the county health department is recommending that we all start and complete a course of antibiotics
3. the school health center has the antibiotics for us.

I was a little freaked out for a few hours.
Now I have figured out who the kid is because a colleague did some guess work (NO Help from ADMIN in that guess work!!!:mad: ). I'm calm.
I'm supposed to be calm and serious about this in front of the kids on Monday. -- yet another job responsibility.
It's hard to be calm when I might rather pull out hair -- not mine -- but a few people's.

I'm venting a lot tonight.


Oh, and the next time a kid wants to borrow a pen of mine and return it after putting it in his mouth, his ear, his nose, ... I'l have a few words about social hygiene. :Soapbox:
AND I will tell him to do everyone a favor and throw it out.

Sorry.
I'll take a break while I go brush / clean my teeth. :cool: ;)

M.


Thank you very much. :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

Dear Mari
 

Hi,

i'm not good for much right now but i saw both your posts.... wanted to say a couple things.

that is great that you are already seeing a little improvement chewing! and, glad you got to the brushing in the second post... take it one night at a time, try not to think about the overall sleep situation. just do the best you can each night, as it comes, and i believe you will get through.

i'm so sorry to hear about the meningitis thing at school. that sure would freak me out. i am relieved they already have a plan in place and supplies to keep you all safe.

an old fashioned hug...

(((((((( Mari ))))))))

~ waves ~

Oh my God! Are you sure you're all right Mari? That is frightening! :eek: They should have told you which student it was just for your own sanity...It's not like you would announce THAT info to the class, but I can definitely appreciate you and your collegues need to know....:hug:

I am so sorry about the bite thing too, that's not right, it shouldn't have happened like that because of a mouth guard, that's what it was right? THat stinks...Braces hurt, I remember, had them for two years myself when I was 13-15. :( Hang in there Mari. :)

meningitis
 

Dear Pam,

The student was last in my class on April 15th. From what I've read, the incubation period is about 2-10 days.
It's been 10 days now.
I was certainly excited for a few hours. But I got calmer when I learned who the student was and that he had not attended lately.

Also, meningitis spreads through close contact -- not as easily as the flu or cold.

I sent email to two of the teachers about which student it was. One teacher I left off the email. The heck with him. He thought that the admin had given out too much identifying info by listing what classes the student was in -- the exact info that helped my friend and I figure out which student it is.

So now the only tricky part is to handle this so that I can help my students and also be seen by admin as cooperating with the county health dept.
I can't very well hint to them that I am not going on a course of anti-biotics or tell them that choosing medical care is a personal decision and not up to the county or the school to force it on them.

I hope the student is getting good treatment and getting better.

M.

Heck....

Need to vent A LOT.

Ah ha, my nasty life... my pathetic luck...

I had a very stressful week.... My culture cells died suddenly.... I made a long experiment on wensday.... Since that day, I was feeling extremely tired.... thursday, busy day as well, lookng for several things my boss needed... damn... and on friday, finally friday ! I was going to see my favourite band performing here, in my city (they are from Finland)... I bought my ticket like 2 months ago, with several problems, I didnt have money, needed to ask an aunt, etc... whatever... and, of course, precisly yesterday, the silly goverment of my city decided to cancel all the public activities because my country seems to be under an epidemy of this porcine influenza virus.... :mad:

Gosh, Im still feeling mad and sad.... :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad:

They are giving us our miney back, but heck, I needed distraction, I wanted to see them sing !!! :(

swine flu
 

Dear Majo,

Keep venting.

You sound good overall -- you are working on experiments, you made plans to see a concert.

Sorry about the cells not making it. http://bestsmileys.com/sad/7.gif :( http://bestsmileys.com/sad/7.gif
That stinks, but that is the nature of science experiements. You are gaining experience! :)
Do you have a new experiment planned?

Your city is front page here -- all events cancelled.
I feel for you. You prepared for that concert.
And the distraction would have been nice. http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/8.gif


Are you guys still allowed to go out -- just not to events where lots of people gather?
Maybe throw a party at your house.

M.

(((((Mari))))) :hug:

Oh gosh, I just cant believe it..... Yet ! I had waited for ages.... When I saw they were coming, God I was so happy, and these 2 months I had been too excited counting the days, waiting for that moment and heck yeah, it had to be precisly yesterday.... I mean, why not one week before ?? Aw :(
I dont know when they will come back (in case they decide to come back to this nasty place), probably years from today... :( Who knows if I will be still alive.

We can still go out but only for the necessary... Like buy food and go to doctor...

I will need to go and check my cells on monday as quick as possible and then come back home.... I need like 10 dishes full of cells for my next experiment... :eek:

Barbara - impatiens and violet stuff
 

Barbara,

Good luck with the impatiens... i had to google it to find out the common name - Busy Lizzies, hee hee. we used to have them when we had a garden. I hope they manage to "weather" the weather even if they are not meant for full sun. ;)

I've tried finding online help for my violet - but have not encountered anyone with a "tree" violet" (one which has gone through the trauma mine has - and survived!) before. The sites i have found all give info about potting and/or repotting when the plant is "normal" and give advice on how to make them flower, diseases, etc. i might have to email a couple of ppl who have their own sites and offer advice or something like that. my mother (who is generally good with plants) thinks i could probably repot it and that it has the capability of setting roots, but she doesn't want me to take her advice because i have always done well with my pet african violets, whereas it's one plant she can't seem to "get right" with so they die on her or don't bloom. but she is good as far as plant theory. however she says it's a risky move because the environment in this house is not optimal for the plant, and that it doesn't seem to have a great root system as is, so that is also a concern in repotting - it might just die. :( so i dunno what i'll do.

Anyway, your little garden sounds nice, what color impatiens did you choose?

~ waves ~

Blue Majo
 

Gosh, i'm sorry to hear about the concert getting caught up in the middle of this epidemic. :( That sucks. Hopefully the band will come back. It sucks they didn't just reschedule - i guess it isn't that easy with a medical thing going on.

i hope you are safe and don't catch that flu, meanwhile!

~ waves ~

((((( Waves ))))) :hug:

I feel very sad still..... :( I guess I can only pray now.... Oh darn thing....

What worry me is, that we dont know for sure what this thing is.... I mean, from pigs but... Heck...

That genoma sounds crazy.... We will see....

Dear Waves,

I appreciate your post -- esp when you don't feel up ot it.

Yes, the chewing improved from how I presented the day the orthod put on the braces.
I soon hope to retrain myself and start eating more fruits and veggies -- usually not in the mood and not sure why that is.

I feel like I could turn myself into a self improvement project -- don't know what that is about.

Do other people have diaries / journals going back from their childhood about trying to be good, do the right thing, do a better job, work harder, . .

Now I make a list each night of what I need to do the next day -- in a word processing document and keep it open so I can see it the next morning when I wake up. Often it is the same list as the day before.

Whoops. Rambling a bit again. I think that I feel anxious at night.

The meningitis scare makes me feel vulnerable but also responsible.
I need to give the students the instructions I got in the email and I need to set the right tone for them.

My accupuncturist today told me to take a probiotic and close to 1,000 mg vit C each day to keep immune system strong.

I hope that your African Violet finds a way to flourish? I'm guessing that you already gave it the African Violet version of vitamin C.
Keep us update on any changes if that is ok.


M.

Dear Pam,
I think I got myself lost and in knot on the thread!

I am hearing from other people who had braces as kids. That helps. I feel less weird knowing that braces are a shared experience.
They don't hurt so much. Tdoc said to think of them it as "discomfort" and to try to take one day at a time.

But I still have problems (after 10 weeks) with talking -- the braces are in the way -- can't really explain what the problem is.

And I have to keep moisturizing my lips. I walk around looking like my bottom lip is peeling -- I think I might be breathing through my mouth at night or licking my lip a lot in the day-- I don't know.

Nearly all the stuff a person can buy in the store to protect lips -- I am allergic to. I did find an olive oil based organic lip product at CVS for daytime (yes! cheaper IS better sometimes) and at night I sleep with vit E oil (also olive oil) smeared all over the lips.

M.

Dear Majo,
I'm praying with you.
Actually, I think that much of the world wants your city to pull through this successfully.
Are you studying to become a scientist?

Mari

I wish you could just use carmex Mari, that must be a difficult allergy to deal with. They make a dental wax I used to RELY On to get through that transition where they hurt whenever they would tighten them or something. You still should be able to find it or the orthodontic office should even supply it for you...It helped me tremendously.

We had a great time with Mom yesterday, the aide called in (big surprise....{/end sarcasm}) but we went thrift store hunting for a new tv or old computer and we got lucky, I found an old computer on their half off day, so half off $5 was 2.50 and it was 2.65 with tax, I was thrilled, see we have an old ATI Video card that is also a TV tuner so Jack was looking to set up a second TV using the old monitor of mine that turned out NOT to be broken but in fact Jackie had turned the brightness ALL the way DOWN!~ LOL!!!! :D

I am telling myself I will do okay tomorrow on this nervewracking MRI, so wish me luck, I hope I can remain calm, I plan on taking a lorezapam ten minutes before I get into the machine, but I don't know how long it lasts, need to call the pharmacist today and ask. :p

Hope you hang in there Mari, I've been worried about you since I read this thread Friday....:hug:

Argh, Im still upset.... :mad:

Yes Mari, Im a scientist :) Im doing my PhD now :winky:

Argh...... Remember my concert that was cancelled ?? They are playing tonight in another city here in my country... CRAZY ! so, only Mexico city is infected.... :rolleyes: and, it made me feel even more mad, that a member of the band took it like nothing, saying "oh, well, part of the audience of the cancelled gig is coming to this one, so that's nice" :mad: Blah... not me !

Sending lots of luck and good vibes for the MRI
 

Dear Pam,
Did I write in this thread that I had an MRI of my head a few years ago -- can't remember where I wrote that or if I deleted it? :confused:

Yes call the pharmacist today about your benzo. I think you might need to take it more than 10 minutes before.

Here is wikipedia on Lorazepam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorazepam
Half life can be 10-20 hours depending on the person.


The open MRI will be great.
You'll be fine.
I had to have contrast put it and that was tricky for the tech apparently -- she was stressing a bit -- NOT HELPFUL.

Except for the contrast, it was easy. :hug: :hug: :hug:
I tried to focus on staying still. I think that the tech let me pick a radio station.

When I had an MRI done on my knee one time, my head was out side of the machine (so I did not feel closed in or hear the noises) but I was concerned about falling a sleep and jerking around in my sleep. That tech had admonished me not to move.
I hope that you get a good tech.

Yes, the orthodo people gave me a little dental wax and then I bought some more at CVS

You are a good shopper. We need to go looking together.
Those are amazing deals that you found.

M.

Music
 

Dear Majo,


That is sooooooooo disappointing about the concert.
Too bad you can't transport yourself to the other city.
And the band member was stupid to let himself get quoted like that.

Find some CDs of the band and go burn them /break them or whatever people do with CDs ( I only remember the old days with vinyl. Burning worked. Breaking worked just as well.
Ok. Don't really do that. It is better to have the music. And you probably have the music stored digitally on an MP3 player or something -- not as cool to burn or break that.

Maybe write the band a letter via their record company and admonish them for being insensitive.
Bunch of jerks!

M.

Thank you Mari :)
 

Wow, the contrast was difficult for the tech? They did one with low contrast on Jackie years ago, like six years ago, and he had to be sedated or he'd have moved way too much. Your MRI was probably a lot longer then 45 minutes because of the contrast eh? I am glad it's over with. Now if I can just get through mine, I called asking about the effect of the lorazepam and he said it lasted eight hours so I feel more confortable taking it around 10am for the 11 am scan, if I can just control my breathing, listen to the music and let the time pass I should be all right.

The pain will probably kick my butt though, from sitting still so long. I anticipate that my back will be in stiches by the time I get to leave. I hope that I do good tomorrow and that it's not pinching a nerve. We are pretty sure its a herniated disc in the neck, but if I have a newly herniated one in addition to the one we MRI'd seven years ago, I don't know. I just hope it gets better soon, the pain has been getting worse. :p

If we lived a little closer Mari I would definitely enjoy going shopping for bargins and grabbing a cup of coffee with you. Who knows maybe someday I'll get down that far south or you might get up this far north in our lovely sunny state. ;) :hug: I should be getting a new TV tuner card for the computer next month so we can get the third computer up and running again for the little man. :D

I'll post how it goes tomorrow. :) *bucks up and hopes for the best*

LOL, you know what Mari, you made me laugh (for the first time a long time !). Thanks for that. :hug:

Yeah, I have a mixed feeling... like, still feeling sad... mad... but at the same time, Im like, what the hell !? stupid band of jerks you know.... argh... hate this feeling...

Uff... I cant believe this is happening.... I could sleep last night... was thinking about this f*****g concert all night... ash.

Yes, post tomorrow
 

Dear Pam,

The tech tried to inject the contrast into my left arm and then freaked out and said my vein collapsed.

I had no idea what she was talking about except that it seemed like something that was not good. Then she tried the other arm and that didn't work either. In total she got in about 50% of the contrast and then made a note in the chart for the neuro / pdoc.

Afterwards they had me sit in the lobby for 15 minutes before going home -- in case I had an allergic reaction -- standard operating procedure I think.

It took 45 mins. Maybe longer with the tech freaking out.

It's really not a big deal.
The open machines are great and your benzo will help even more.
I did mine without any benzos.

Yeah, you need to get yourself comfortable in the machine before they start. After they start -- no moving.

I think she did three series -- so I had a sort of break in between them and was able to move and stretch and re-arrange myself and talk to her.

Mari

Finland perhaps?
 

Dear Majo,
They are musicians focussed on whether they get to play or not. They want to play and they don't care what city.


But they need to be talking through their agent or Public Relations person. I guess they are more ignorant -- not really insensitive -- just not informed -- and can you blame them -- this is something new for them too.

Try to think of something else.
It is a concert.
At some point you can go to Finland and see them play. That would be great.
In the meantime, let it go somehow. Find something equally intense and interesting. Can't think of any suggestions for you.
Maybe just make plans to do something different -- something you don't ordinarily do -- other than a concert.

M.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

Thanks Mari.

Yeah, I will start winning my own money next year, so, perhaps I will be able to use it in a trip to Finland... :D In the mean time, like you suggested, I will let it go... as I hated the reaction of the guy.... :mad:

You know, is like, Im a very passionate girl... I have always be... and when I hear, see or meet somebody that is like "yeah, whataver..." I just get so upset ! :mad: lol, I bet those kind of people live happier than me as they dont take life too serious but, for me, it's just weird....

Hum, this will pass too... like everything in this life huh ? Time to time...

Argh....

How is your sunday going ??

Hi everyone,

I have been busy this weekend. And its been really hard watching my mom, she isn't doing well at all. So keep her in your prayers please. She has a abstructed bowel or something like that. Its been a mess.

I had a good fair yesterday in Indy and stuff. But it sure was tiring with trying to spend time with my mom on Friday and Saturday in between meetings.

Donna

Dear Di,
You look great on TV!
And you made everyone else look good too.
I appreciated the link.
Good luck with the continued job searches. :Heart:
M.

Dear Donna,
I hope that your mother gets better soon.
In the meantime, remember to take care of yourself. :hug: :hug: :hug:

M.

hi
 

Di,

good going and great interview :) Good luck on the continued job hunt. i'm looking too, in between emotional crises (sigh). Ironically i think i would have fewer of those if i had a job, even though not all are job related, and i certainly have a lot of anxiety about re-entering the work force.

Donna,

I hope you feel better soon. Please don't overdo it and remember to reach out to others for help if you need it.

My best wishes for your mom's recovery also. That sounds very uncomfortable. :(

~ waves ~

rant in defense of public performers on tour
 

Don't bet on that. What is in the public eye can be deceiving.

Including some offhand comment (which can be taken different ways... tone can play a lot... maybe the guy was just trying to look on the bright side, of the total picture? that not EVERYONE would miss the show... glass half full instead of half empty?)

The other thing is, do not believe just because someone is famous they are happy. Bands have it rough. Performing is hard work. Not just performing but they have to practice practice practice to perform as well. Which is time time time and effort effort effort. Sure... it may be their passion but i've played guitar for hours straight (till my fingers bled) trying to get this or that piece right, or make use of non-quiet hours... whatever... lemme tell you my bleeding fingers didn't thank me for my passion. I had my thumb go numb another time... took a week for the paresthesia to wear off. And this isn't even public performance!

Getting out under those bright lights and jamming for a whole couple hours is A LOT OF WORK just in itself. Sure there is a thrill to it, but thrills don't make "happiness." So don't let's go betting on anyone's happiness.

Also touring... living out of luggage... fun????? yah, maybe for a week max 2. They are probably touring for months and don't stay in the same city more than 2 nights, then there is the actual travel. it can get old reaaaaal quick. A lot of times they don't necessarily get to "visit" the city because they are too busy during the non-concert hours doing prep-work, interviews etc. Just because they don't have an "ordinary" life doesn't mean it is an easy one.

I hope you can forgive the guy, first, and then perhaps see how the comment may have really been meant another way, or simply in a more neutral way. You know, even talking is pretty hard when no matter what you say, someone may take it badly, because they have been hurt. You have been hurt because you didn't get to see the concert.

But that wasn't his fault.

Maybe you would have preferred more of a sympathy post from me, but i really feel for this guy, for this one offhand comment which sounded pretty innocuous to me, frankly... and all this talk of smashing records and what jerks they are. For one little tiny comment.

Remember too that the media will quote pieces of what they say. Maybe he said more and wasn't quoted ... OR... he may have only had a moment and just tried to say something short and positive. I doubt he was given an hour to prepare a speech. Don't let's crucify the guy, sheez... some compassion, people? maybe?

(end rant in defense of public performers on tour)

~ waves ~

WTH !? Excuse me.... Im so sorry you typed all this stuff.... you completely misundertood my message.... :( I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC PEOPLE ! I was talking about that being very passionate (like me !) is perhaps harder than those who manage to take life lighter !!! :eek: Gosh.... :eek:
I take everything in life too serious, and it has cost me very bad moments... so, I have been reading books that say we have to live in a fresh, relaxed, lighter way...

NOBODY was crucifing the guy... I was actually accepting in my last post, that perhaps it is me who is wrong as I tend to exaggerate things because Im to passionate !!!! :eek: Holy... We even mentioned me planning a trip to Finland to go see them.... :rolleyes:

So whatever, hopefully you can calm down because now, who feels crucified is me !!! :( and without a reason ! :eek: Good Lord....

Hopefully you will read this post... :rolleyes:

I, by the way, have no clue if public people is happy or not, I just know their lives arent easy... so, yeah, you misunderstood.

PEACE OUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD !

P.S You do not need to rant in defense of public performers on tour with me because if somebody has always liked public people (from soccer and tennis players, to singers and actors to politicans) is me, and I spend all my money in go see this public performers.

Thanks for the good wishes for both me and my mom.

I'm going to be up all night with my son tonight. He has a EEG
tonight.

Donna

Aw !!! good luck with the EEG Donna ! :hug:

Thinking about you.

blue majo
 

PEACE OUT? who declared war?

good if you are chilling out about the whole thing ... i did say i hoped you could forgive him and see the thing another way.

i did not intend to crucify you or Mari - who mentioned about the smashing records. i do not feel what i said was a personal attack at all. tried to expose another perspective. granted, not a very sympathetic one to you after reading "stupid band of jerks" about a comment made... that was one thing. and yes, i do understand those are feelings and can pass... but as far as my comment about let's not crucify people... that's where it was at... your reaction to his comment and the names.

if *you personally* feel crucified, well... sorry but i'm not gonna step up to that plate, i do not feel i made any personal attack on you. i had issue with some of the things you said, and yes i DID ask you to consider other perspectives and compassion and forgiveness. if that is being crucified... well... :confused:

seeing them in Finland means little to me. i know of Roger Waters fans who will go to see him even though he has been known to spit on his audience... go figure. (i don't know if it's supposed to be part of the show or what... but some ppl like the music enough to go anyway and buy his stuff.)

also, i did quote the comment i that got me started... about happiness, and that making assumptions as to who is happier than whom is not something to bet on. to me happiness is not a temporary thing but an inner state someone achieves... different than joy or contentedness that are more transient.

and you quote your own words on that, and then say something else... so... whatever. perhaps i misunderstood... or perhaps you misspoke?

many artists are not happy, and if you know that saying "i bet .... etc" does not reflect that. i read posts, not minds.

many actually live miserable lonely lives. so that really stood out to me, your saying you bet he was happier than you. i don't know how happy you are, but all i wanted to suggest is that you might not know how happy (or unhappy) he was. that is all. so i proceeded to point out some of the hardships in their lives... perhaps stupid obvious ones... i dunno, but i was not placing bets on happiness, not even yours, ok?

i wanted to raise an objection to what i read as a casual assumption about someone else's wellbeing. again, the objection was to something you said, not you as a person. and i tried to explain why.

i called the post a rant mostly because it was long and went on about the same 2 basic issues, and certainly in defense/sympathy of the artists. because it raised a conflict with things you had said, and also was about an event you were already upset about - i marked it with a trigger icon to forewarn you that it could be upsetting to you.

finally, just as you ranted about the concert, it is my sole prerogative to determine if *i* need to rant in defense of public performers or the level of exhaust fumes where i live, or whatever. and i needed to. period.

you can rant, and so can i. in this forum, we rant sometimes.

end of story as far as i am concerned.

i really hope you do feel better about those guys and managed to gain *something* positive from my post. but i shall say no more on this subject. it is clearly touchy and it is obviously not a good time for everyone in your city either with all that is going on.

best regards

~ waves ~

gosh i feel for you Donna. with you sick and all. :( Anyway i hope your son's EEG goes well. take care.

fwiw, you have company... looks like i'm heading for another bout of bronchitis. and i was just getting my voice back into shape too, and had promised ppl some recordings. :( guess it won't be happening real quick.

:hug:

~ waves ~

Little late for the weekend. I was in SC doing fieldwork for an audit. I drove all the way through, it took me 11 hours and my hip and knee are throbbing. I didn't even come home and went right to Pet's Mart to pick up Hooper. I get her a private room that plays Animal Planet all day. She loves that show and when I watch it she stares and tries to get the bears. :hug:

Donna I hope your son's EEG turns out okay. :hug:

I have to get to church by 7. It's 40 hours devotion and I haven't been in town. I promised father I'd make it tonight.