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Smoke_666 06-01-2009 02:02 PM

Medical Mara-ja-hu-chi
 

Has anyone had any success with it? I gave it a run, tried it for a week or so, and it seemed to have some effect, making the pain more distant, it seemed, but it really spaced me out. I used an indica, which kinda makes one dumber than usual, so it was not really the best test. A straight sativa would be better for the mind, but I haven't been in 'the game' for years, and hadn't any way to pick and choose. As I haven't a job here soon, being **** tested won't be much of a concern, and I wondered if anyone had pain relief?

An aside; Like any med, the costs must be weighed against the potential gain. Even if effective, I would not recommend it for someone in school (short term memory is always affected to some degree, sometimes massively) or to an airline pilot/bus driver/etc.(legal/attention problems) So if you're a 14 year old girl, probly not the best idea. (was that too pointed a hint? lol) My apologies if I offended anyone's sensibilities.

finz 06-01-2009 03:14 PM

If pot were legal or medical marijuana prescribed in my state, I would try it like, yesterday

SandyC 06-01-2009 11:28 PM

Works for Jim who has ms. We're in Illnois and have been fighting for it to be legal. It passed the Senate and now we're waiting on the House.

llrn7470 06-02-2009 05:36 AM

It helped me alot-really diminished the burning pain in my skin and the bone pain. However, since back at work, not an option.

CRPSbe 06-02-2009 08:37 AM

I heard (Dutch documentary) that it helps MS patients. Should it ever become legal, I might consider it. But not until then, no way.

angelrsd 06-02-2009 08:49 AM

after i found out what i had and was 16 and was very acessible to me i did it and it helped alot.. its not llegal here and lot of drs look down on it so havent done it of late. but yes it helped enough so that i really didnt think about it.. and i did it alot ;) is cheaper than meds by a mile

carrie

Smoke_666 06-02-2009 03:26 PM

I am again suprized
 

I guess I expected to be set on fire and sent to hell for even suggesting using it, comes as a great shock that I wasn't. Once I'm underemployed, perhaps I'll give it another go. Amusing to me that the medical establishment has no problem handing out meds with hateful side effects as long as they get a cut of the profit, but God forbid they ok using a benign substance with no OD potential and only minimal side effects. Perhaps if the pharmaceutical industry were the only ones allowed to produce legal pot for sale in pharmacies things would be copacetic. God Bless the docs out there who put concern for their patients at the top of their list of priorities, as it should be, as opposed to pushing drugs they have to know are unsafe for profit. Not to be on a rant, but when there are perfectly safe painkillers available, why the hell use people as test subjects for off label uses of very dangerous drugs? I had three docs write me scripts for neurontin. Have you ever looked up all the flat out dangerous side effects of that med? I understand it is a godsend to some folks, and that's fine. As it stands right now though, there is debate as to whether it has any effect at all for nerve pain. You can't tell me that billions were spent on development of that stuff and they don't know whether it passes into breast milk, how it really works, etc. As I understand it, they created fast track for meds in response to the AIDS crisis, and rightly so. Yer dying of something, you've got to give anything a try. It has gone well beyond that, over a hundred thousand Americans die every year from legally prescribed meds, taken right. That's insane. And when I see folks tell me how evil weed is, how it'll ruin 'the children' and 'traditional family values', I could puke at their hypocrisy. People are needlessly DYING for fun and profit, and they just don't care enough about them to research their deeply held 'beliefs'. Read The Book again, show me where Jesus said it was cool to put manna over man, profits over people. Enough. I've said my piece. Later all. Smoke.

fmichael 06-02-2009 05:24 PM

Marinol
 
Hi. Although I live in California, my p.m. doc prefers to prescribe Marinol (dronabinol), which is synthetic version of a naturally occuring form of THC: delta-9 THC to be specific. The principle difference from the grass of my youth is that it takes about 45 minutes to come on, and then lasts for a much longer period of time. I find that it's particularly effective when the spasms get out of control, 50 mg. a day of Baclofen notwithstanding. Then too I have to (but rarely do) keep myself off email when I'm on it, because I invariably make a fool of myself, usually before far too many recipients. And for just that reason can't take it as an everyday analgesic, reserving it for the worst days, and then it's "check please."

That said, I have a good friend who lives in San Francisco who is both physically incapacitated and has incredibly severe neuropathic pain throughout her body - although not RSD her pain levels can be as high as anyone I've met - and she finds that really good pot (and in S.F. the medical dispensaries get the best) works better than Dilaudid!

But for people who don't live in a region where medical marijuana is available, the take home point may be that Marinol is, at least in the U.S. and Canada.

Hope that's useful,
Mike

AintSoBad 06-02-2009 05:50 PM

If you haven't already seen this show, do so.
It's got all the attitudes, from hypocrisy, police, profiteers,, and mom and pop shops!

I think it's a hoot!

"Marijuana Inc."

http://www.hulu.com/watch/54312/cnbc...-marijuana-inc

dreambeliever128 06-03-2009 09:12 AM

Hi,
 
Colorado has the same law as California. You can grow 3 plants for medicinal purposes but if you get caught by the Feds then you lose your home and all.

I was given a application to fill out by my MS Dr. and it was to be sent into the state with 110. for the license to grow it. I chose not too.

Here you can get it pretty easy. I tried it and basically had the same reaction that Smoke had. Spaced out. That's one way of not feeling any pain. LOL

I have mixed feelings about it. I have Grandkids that I didn't want to think it was ok to smoke it.

I'm from the old school. If it's working for people that have medical issues then I think it should be ok for them but not open it up as a legal crop for all to raise.

Ada

Smoke_666 06-03-2009 10:28 AM

Marijuana Inc
 
Pretty amusing show. I particularly liked the sports cards book of different kinds. As far as the Colorado thing, I'll be dipped if I'd fill out a form informing the world I was breaking the law, even if the state is cool with it. My home means more to me than all that, and it's merely a trailer! (I know yer all shocked!) I hadn't heard much good in regards the marinol, but then when I had looked at it, I wasn't looking in regards pain but rather the poor folks with AIDS and cancer/chemo related nausea. Tough to keep a pill down when yer puking. I may have to look into it though, never even crossed my mind, frankly. Thanks for the advice.

And good news; the manufacture of generic oxycontin has been resumed! About half the price of the non-generic, although it's still pricey, it's wonderful news to me. :D

Sandel 06-05-2009 04:05 AM

It helps!
 
I find it helps quite a bit but like every other med we all react diffrently, also MJ itself has diffrent breeds, some helps neuropathic pain quite a bit, some just spaces you out. I find that a weaker blend is what I require for my nausia and pain.. probibly because I have become acostomed to it, and anything too strong just gets my heart racing, however my heart is efected by RSD as well so I think I am impared that way :mad: if I could just get the med without the stone I would do so but I have tried Naboline (not the same) and I have tried a few others as well , and they just don't seem to work as well for me.. I find that the MJ works alot like lidocaine does for me, I use it for break through pain mabie twice in a day, but only if/when I need it..
Horible on the memory though.

Smoke_666 06-05-2009 11:05 AM

Your heart?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandel (Post 519461)
I find it helps quite a bit but like every other med we all react diffrently, also MJ itself has diffrent breeds, some helps neuropathic pain quite a bit, some just spaces you out. I find that a weaker blend is what I require for my nausia and pain.. probibly because I have become acostomed to it, and anything too strong just gets my heart racing, however my heart is efected by RSD as well so I think I am impared that way :mad: if I could just get the med without the stone I would do so but I have tried Naboline (not the same) and I have tried a few others as well , and they just don't seem to work as well for me.. I find that the MJ works alot like lidocaine does for me, I use it for break through pain mabie twice in a day, but only if/when I need it..
Horible on the memory though.

Please, do tell, what heart effect? I've not heard of that before. Thanks, Smoke

allentgamer 06-05-2009 12:28 PM

I have the darn RSD heart problem too, and certain types of MJ mess with it. :(

Although in the evening before bed it does the trick in giving me the attitude adjustment. At first my wife didnt like the idea of MJ, but the first time she realized that my tude changed from the on edge ferocious RSD pain sufferer to the mild mannered happy go lucky couch potato, she changed her mind. :D

It is very easy to get your medical card allowing you to have and grow mj here in california. You do have to prove you have a medical problem though, and pay a small annual fee. A couple of friends were pulled over and all of their meds (mj) were confisticated. But the judge released all of it back to them, and then scolded the cops that did the taking for going against california laws.

And this stuff isnt the grass we smoked way back when that is fer sure :)
It is alot more potent LOL.

llrn7470 06-05-2009 08:41 PM

Too true
 
I hadn't done anyting like that since college (we'll just say several years) and I was floored by the change in potency. Used to take a lot more to do less. Again, I wish that I lived in a "legal" state and value my job and house more than doing it regularly, but when in hell when first diagnosed and trying to find anything that worked...let's just say it made it manageable. Made my sympathetic nervous system take a chill for a couple hours and sometimes a little break is all it takes to give some hope.

allentgamer 06-05-2009 08:49 PM

LOL it floored me too! It was aloooong time ago for me as well. Then one day a good forum friend (Condor) was talking about this medical mj, I asked the doctor about it and he told me it was worth a try.

It really does give the much needed break from stress, some pain, and the great attitude of who cares LOL. I do recommend trying it to see if it something to add to your arsenal against pain, if it is ok where you live.

finz 06-06-2009 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelrsd (Post 518057)
after i found out what i had and was 16 and was very acessible to me i did it and it helped alot.. its not llegal here and lot of drs look down on it so havent done it of late. but yes it helped enough so that i really didnt think about it.. and i did it alot ;) is cheaper than meds by a mile

carrie

It's not illegal in TN ?


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