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daniella 06-09-2009 09:39 AM

Supplements you found an actual benefit from?
 
I am trying to be consistent with my supplements and I know we are all different but was wondering for others what supplements they take that they found a difference in how they feel? Not just the numbers but actual feeling rather more energy,a big one for me would be less pain,etc. I can't say I see an actual change in any of mine but I will say I continue to take the magnesiumn glycinate cause I have read a lot about it helping the cramping in limbs and I guess the calcium with d since I have osteoporsis but good d levels. Maybe the omegas not with pain but clearing up some of my skin conditions. Not supplement but I have started drinking water and really cut down the diet soda I think that is a good thing though don't think it has helped my pain. Thanks

mrsD 06-09-2009 11:49 AM

Each person is going to have a distinct list of things that helped them. It all depends on their own genetics and diet.

For me Omega-3 fatty acids and magnesium were the biggies.
But I also feel better on B6 and B1 (benfotiamine).
I have to take zinc because my blood pressure med depletes it.
I have to take Vit C because of my inability to tolerate fruit (fructose).

Right now I am using d-chiro inositol, and it has been wonderful in certain ways related to my longstanding PCOS symptoms.

Although I tested at 849 for B12 I still take 1mg of that a day for my PN. It also helps me sleep.

Everyone is different.

daniella 06-10-2009 05:58 AM

Thanks Mrs D. I thought you would say the omegas. Trying to really keep up with that myself as I would think my history that could be a major depletion in my body. By the way how is your stomach as I know you had problems with that and when you mentioned the fructose I thought of it. No more of those candies I remember you saying flared you up. I imagine you have a healthy diet. Thanks

mrsD 06-10-2009 06:49 AM

Thanks for asking Daniella...

I avoid all sugars now, especially fructose, high fructose corn syrup. Tiny amounts of sucrose, seem okay but not every day.

The omegas and magnesium are two nutrients that have shown up in studies to be low in many people. So keeping those at a optimum level, really can restore health to many people.
My GERD which was severe many years ago went away, after about 3 months into the omegas. I owe Dr. Barry Sears, who wrote the Zone books, for alerting me to this subject!

daniella 06-10-2009 07:20 AM

Interesting and I am glad you are feeling better. I was reading a similar book on a diet to help inflammation. Now it is putting into practice. Do you follow any other diet things that you have found helpful?

mrsD 06-10-2009 07:52 AM

No, I do mostly the Zone diet.

I eat alot of lean meats/seafood, and avoid pasta ( have it maybe once a week if that) and potatoes.

I eat alot of veggies and salads, with Beano now. ;)

No cookies, cake, and ice cream very very rarely. When summer gets really hot, I may have more ice cream, but the sugar content is a limiting factor. I do have Smart Balance peanut butter, no jelly. Sometimes I sprinkle cinnamon on it.

My one vice is pizza. I will have some once a week. Can't give that up!

I use Lactaid milk, and lactase for other dairy products.

I am an old lady now, eating like one too! LOL

daniella 06-10-2009 09:28 AM

Thanks. I thought pretty healthy as you are so informed. I am trying. Can you tell me why if one does not have gluten condition or diabetes that still on a diet to lower inflamation they still say to limit bread products. I am not talking refined but even 100 percent whole grain but brown rice would be ok? Like why do you take pasta or potatoes out or is it more weight issues sorry I don't know your background on that. Or am I confused. Also vitamin e supplement what is that supposed to do and how much? I have taken a few time 200IU but then for some reason stopped. Do you think it may help me if I am consistent or any reason not to?Thanks always

BlueMajo 06-10-2009 10:27 AM

Im taking vit D, vit B, vit A, Omega 3 right now....

Vit D helps me with pain
Vit B with sleep, mood, pain...
Omega 3 with eyes and skin that I have too dry....

I dont feel the power of vit A (betacarotenes).... :rolleyes:

I want to try magnesium as my legs hurt a lot when I walk and I think it is because Im full of lactic acid and Ive heard magenesium helps with that... :confused:

mrsD 06-10-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by daniella (Post 521588)
Thanks. I thought pretty healthy as you are so informed. I am trying. Can you tell me why if one does not have gluten condition or diabetes that still on a diet to lower inflamation they still say to limit bread products. I am not talking refined but even 100 percent whole grain but brown rice would be ok? Like why do you take pasta or potatoes out or is it more weight issues sorry I don't know your background on that. Or am I confused. Also vitamin e supplement what is that supposed to do and how much? I have taken a few time 200IU but then for some reason stopped. Do you think it may help me if I am consistent or any reason not to?Thanks always

After reading the gluten boards for a LONG time, I have seen posts claiming that even if you test negative, you may have a gluten problem anyway.

I only use Tinkyada brown rice pastas, because their glycemic index is better. I try to limit carbs however, to keep my insulin levels down. I have very high fasting insulin levels.
I have discovered over time that potatoes make my PN burn the day I eat them. I had to get rid of them of several weeks and reintroduce to discover that. Some people are intolerant to the nightshade family. Some people with arthritis have claimed improvement when avoiding these veggies. I do eat a small amount of tomatoes but some sauces also cause foot burning for me. (I think that is a histamine release). So I buy Bertoli brand sauce and it is mild enough for me.

You would want to choose a natural vitamin E that has all the forms listed on the label... alpha, gamma delta etc.
If you take fish oil, there may be vit E added to it as an antioxidant. Most of the oils have Vit E added.

I also avoid MSG... this is a huge trigger for burning for me.
Knock on wood: my feet have been pretty good lately! LOL
(I was born with a birth defect of the GI tract...this is what I blame my food intolerances on these days-- I have a severe malrotation which means my GI tract is twisted up inside. I get alot of problems with it because of that too).

I do use Vit D too in the winter...but I have stopped it now since I am outside so much.

daniella 06-10-2009 02:10 PM

Mrs D I have no idea what I do without you. You are so knowledgable. My fish oil pills is by nature made and has no e. My vitamin e is also by nature made and the ingredients are di-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate,Gelatine(non-bovine),glycerin,water. Is that ok or no and it is 200iu? I also have heard that about the gluten and people trying a diet free of it even if not positive in tests. I feel any relief even if it is small is at least in the right direction.Mrs D I am thinking you have PN and you stated the insulin and gi but do you suffer from other conditions? If this is too personal you don't have to answer.I am glad you have been feeling better
Blumajo you should try the magnesium. I am not sure if it helps me but I have read a lot on here and on the net and it seems like it could be of benefit. I order the glycinate kind but I know Mrsd D has stated slowmag is good too. I have dry eyes as well but mine does better with weather that is warm and humid then I have seen with supp or even steriod/meds. Omegas can help with mood as well. I remember my psych before the pain condition having me take them with my other meds.

BlueMajo 06-10-2009 06:37 PM

Hey Daniella !

I will definetely give Magnesium a try :)

pabb 06-11-2009 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by daniella (Post 521720)
Mrs D I have no idea what I do without you. You are so knowledgable. My fish oil pills is by nature made and has no e. My vitamin e is also by nature made and the ingredients are di-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate,Gelatine(non-bovine),glycerin,water. Is that ok or no and it is 200iu? I also have heard that about the gluten and people trying a diet free of it even if not positive in tests. I feel any relief even if it is small is at least in the right direction.Mrs D I am thinking you have PN and you stated the insulin and gi but do you suffer from other conditions? If this is too personal you don't have to answer.I am glad you have been feeling better
Blumajo you should try the magnesium. I am not sure if it helps me but I have read a lot on here and on the net and it seems like it could be of benefit. I order the glycinate kind but I know Mrsd D has stated slowmag is good too. I have dry eyes as well but mine does better with weather that is warm and humid then I have seen with supp or even steriod/meds. Omegas can help with mood as well. I remember my psych before the pain condition having me take them with my other meds.

you want one that has d-gamma, beta and alpha....dont know that you will find that at the grocery, perhaps a healthfood store, vitamin store? otherwise on line.....

daniella 06-11-2009 05:01 PM

Thanks. Just out of curiousty why? Is it still a 200IU the amount and do I really need this or I should just do without.
Blue I hope you feel better with magnesium. Don't forget to get the good absorbed kind.

pearl girl 06-14-2009 10:09 AM

magnesium: Malic Relief Formula???
 
Hey BlueMajo and Daniella (and all), Hello!

I am sitting here looking at an unopened bottle of magnesium which I ordered a while back. I have been adding supplements slowly; if I have a reaction, I'll hopefully know which supplement it is! I think I'm up to about 12 in number and having trouble with when to take them, and in what combination. Ugh!

My hesitancy to start the mag is what I've read about a tendency for some to have diarrhea. That's an issue I don't want to add to my already too-long list. I read a post of mrsD's which addressed magnesium and one of the preferred was a slow release. So that's what I thought I bought but now I'm not sure if I bought the right type of magnesium. (Thus,the mood icon. of course, that's very appropriate for EVERY day.)

My purchase was for County Life's, 'biochem' time release MALIC RELIEF FORMULA. wow. what a mouth full (he he) It also says on the label 'Malic/Magnesium Complex helps improve muscle function'... I'm also seeing about 11 ingredients. Jeepers. Never head of half of it.

In order of listing top to bottom, ingredients are:
B-6 (10 mg & 500% daily value)
calcium carbonate (400 mg & 40% dv)
magnesium malate (200 mg & 50% dv)
manganese citrate (10 mg & 500% dv)
chromium (200 mcg & 167% dv)

also,
malic acid(as magnesium malate) 825 mg; dv??
DL-phenylatanine 200 mg
curcumin (rhizome) 200 mg
devil's claw extract root 120 mg
(2.5% harpagosides equal to 3mg) silica 20mg
horsetail extract (leaf/stem) (7% silica equal to0.14mg) 2mg

Spelling could definitely be off on some of these. I really can't read it well even with my glasses on. After typing that list, I definitely am very hesitant to take it. ... devil's claw and horsetail ... sounds like something the sisters in macbeth would brew up. :p

Well, guys, if anyone knows about this particular brand, any info would be greatly appreciated. Gotta go 4 now, numbness in fingers has returned with a vengence today.

Not sure if it's two steps forward, one step back -- or one step forward, two steps back. :confused:

pabb 06-14-2009 11:00 AM

i know mrsd has posted she isnt in favor of the combo products.......and i wouldnt want to try this kind of thing without trying ea separatly....the one she has mentioned is mag64 brand name magdelay.....i have found that i have to ask at the pharmacy counter....it isnt on the shelf

mrsD 06-14-2009 11:41 AM

While pabb is right about combo products, this one is not bad.

The curcumin won't be much absorbed at that dose and without some added absorption enhancers.

But the rest seems okay. It is a typical formula to help Fibro symptoms, and tendinitis. The silica is often not found in our diets anymore, so some people benefit from that.

Nothing really expensive in there. So I hope you didn't pay too much?

I answered you, Pearl girl in your PM in more detail.

The combos I do not like are "proprietary mixes" with no ingredients amounts listed.

Also subpotent use of fancy sounding things that are meant to
catch your eye and wallet, but deliver little~~ I don't like those either.

You should always know what you are getting and how much of it before taking it.

pearl girl 06-14-2009 01:04 PM

You are fabulous, mrsD. Will spare everyone else all the details of my pm. But for continuity let me say that I have decided this is probably not necessary for my pernicious anemia and will purchase magnesium (but not citrate) at an RDA level. Love to all and a big hug for anyone who needs it.

daniella 06-14-2009 05:26 PM

Hi. I purchase and it is my only thing I do online magnesium glycinate. I saw a holisitc doc who suggested this type. I am not sure if it is really better then one at a store well of course not the oxide which is a no but anyhow I am creature of habit. For me and supp spliting. I do that with calcium and d one morn and one night,glucosamine,omegas. The rest I try to take with a big meal but who knows if that is good or bad.

pearl girl 06-15-2009 05:54 AM

thanks for everything
 
To all those who have offered guidance and support, I say thank you from my heart.

For now, I am signing off indefinitely but wanted to at least say 'good luck' to all of you, and you know who you are. Your concern was a light in the darkness.

pabb 06-15-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 523164)
While pabb is right about combo products, this one is not bad.
The curcumin won't be much absorbed at that dose and without some added absorption enhancers.

But the rest seems okay. It is a typical formula to help Fibro symptoms, and tendinitis. The silica is often not found in our diets anymore, so some people benefit from that.

Nothing really expensive in there. So I hope you didn't pay too much?

I answered you, Pearl girl in your PM in more detail.

The combos I do not like are "proprietary mixes" with no ingredients amounts listed.

Also subpotent use of fancy sounding things that are meant to
catch your eye and wallet, but deliver little~~ I don't like those either.

You should always know what you are getting and how much of it before taking it.

good, and since she has decided not to use the allergy angle is moot....

daniella 06-17-2009 10:11 AM

Pear girl I hope you are ok if you are reading this. I am not sure why your choice to leave but please take care and if you want an email buddy I am here. I know for me I am on a constant roller coaster of ups and downs with my health. On a side note with the magnesium maybe if you start with a lower amount and work your way up and also I heard the better absorbed cause that problem less.

pearl girl 06-20-2009 09:20 AM

frustrated by inability to read & comprehend
 
thank you daniella.

daniella 06-20-2009 09:37 AM

Nancy, I sent you a PM. You always have a friend here. We all make mistakes though I missed yours. You just have to learn from the past and move forward. Also some of your post errors it sounds like are part of your struggles and at least trying to do is a success in itself. Many thoughts for better times

mrsD 06-20-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pearl girl (Post 525819)
thank you daniella. Yes please. I'm back and this time to stay! I let my embarrassment in making so many posting errors overwhelm me and I threw in the towel. I even caused my cherished mrsD some concern by mixing up vital numbers in a pm -- so I just said to myself: this is just too hard for me.

It still is actually. I've spent hours this morning reading threads on essential oils and just can't make sense of it -- in a usable way. Perhaps my very late diagnosis of pernicious anemia including extensive nerve and brain damage, is part of the problem. dyslexia doesn't help with all the numbers. I transpose everything - even left and right. It's frustrating but I think I made it even more difficult for myself by reading three forums at the same time. I am now only here - this is home! thanks for caring... :hug: Nancy

When it is hard to understand the medical stuff I put up, just try to take the oils and don't worry about the "proof". I put all that up for those who want it, and who can then take it to their doctor's if need be.


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