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bruegger84 08-05-2009 10:49 PM

is this a good omega 3 fish oil product? fish oil products.
 
http://www.iherb.com/Barlean-s-Omega...4-g/13411?at=0

this is the best tasting fish oil I have gotten so far, is it a good quality product? it has omega 6's and omega 9's too(dont really know what that means) the jarrow formulas liquid fish oil is a good product but the taste is disgusting.
I found out that if you want to take fish oil and get enough DHA you hafta go with a liquid formula(or now fish oil, if you wanna take gel capsules but i figured out that now's fish oil products are hard to swallow and the capsules are harder than say a GNC brand.)

jarrow formulas epa/dha levels are 425-600mg/740-850 respectively. the daily dosage is 1 tsp(and thats all you need cuz it packs a punch and is gross.)

this lemon zest barlean's swirly version is decent at epa365/dha365 mg respectively. so if i wanted more epa and dha i'd have to pump it up to 3 or 4 tsps a day, all the while id be getting more omega 6 and 9 too. the daily dosage recommended is 2 teaspoons a day. would it be ok if i took 3 teaspoons instead? most products say or as directed by your doctor, this doesn't. it's a very thick, viscous liquid, unlike the jarrow's fish oil liquid. so it goes down easier, and tastes better.

bruegger84 08-06-2009 12:23 PM

bumpity bump again my question simply is is this a good fish oil product? and would 3 teaspoons instead of 2 teaspons a day be bad?

jccgf 08-06-2009 08:41 PM

Sorry... I'd answer if I knew the answer. MrsD is the authority here on EFA's, but she's on vacation. She checks in occassionally when she can find computer access. Meanwhile... maybe you will find this helpful?
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=6092

I'm quite sure Barleans is a reputable brand name, but don't really know anything about the formulations...

I did use Barleans Flaxseed oil for a time... but that is neither here nor there.

Jomar 08-06-2009 11:08 PM

would 3 teaspoons instead of 2 teaspoons a day be bad


I'm not sure if this applies to fish oil products, but some vitamins are water soluble and some are not.
since it is fish oil - I assume it would be fat soluble.

[Water-soluble

Water-soluble vitamins dissolve easily in water, and in general, are readily excreted from the body, to the degree that urinary output is a strong predictor of vitamin consumption.[13] Because they are not readily stored, consistent daily intake is important.[14] Many types of water-soluble vitamins are synthesized by bacteria.[15]

Fat-soluble

Fat-soluble vitamins are absorbed through the intestinal tract with the help of lipids (fats). Because they are more likely to accumulate in the body, they are more likely to lead to hypervitaminosis than are water-soluble vitamins. Fat-soluble vitamin regulation is of particular significance in cystic fibrosis.[16]]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin#Water-soluble

fish oil acceptable dosage -search results-
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...dosage&spell=1

bruegger84 08-07-2009 12:43 AM

omega 3 is not a fat soluble vitamin, omega 3 is a healthy fat that's used in the body.
your thinking of vitamin D, which is a fat soluble vitamin.

daniella 08-08-2009 11:04 AM

I am not sure but I thought with the pills the only concern of taking more is stomach upset and also if your bruise because of bleeding I think. Have you looked into flaxseed oil cause you could add that to veggies etc just make sure you don't put it in the pan first cause then you can't use the omegas as well I think.

bruegger84 08-08-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniella (Post 549175)
I am not sure but I thought with the pills the only concern of taking more is stomach upset and also if your bruise because of bleeding I think. Have you looked into flaxseed oil cause you could add that to veggies etc just make sure you don't put it in the pan first cause then you can't use the omegas as well I think.

yeah i never had that happen to me before, yah i may supplement my regular fish oil, with some flaxseed oil, that sounds like a good idea.

bruegger84 08-27-2009 12:37 AM

another question that was posted shortly after mrs D left for vaca.

again, the questions are at the top^^ :wink:

billie 08-27-2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruegger84 (Post 548201)
http://www.iherb.com/Barlean-s-Omega...4-g/13411?at=0

this is the best tasting fish oil I have gotten so far, is it a good quality product? it has omega 6's and omega 9's too(dont really know what that means) the jarrow formulas liquid fish oil is a good product but the taste is disgusting.
I found out that if you want to take fish oil and get enough DHA you hafta go with a liquid formula(or now fish oil, if you wanna take gel capsules but i figured out that now's fish oil products are hard to swallow and the capsules are harder than say a GNC brand.)

jarrow formulas epa/dha levels are 425-600mg/740-850 respectively. the daily dosage is 1 tsp(and thats all you need cuz it packs a punch and is gross.)

this lemon zest barlean's swirly version is decent at epa365/dha365 mg respectively. so if i wanted more epa and dha i'd have to pump it up to 3 or 4 tsps a day, all the while id be getting more omega 6 and 9 too. the daily dosage recommended is 2 teaspoons a day. would it be ok if i took 3 teaspoons instead? most products say or as directed by your doctor, this doesn't. it's a very thick, viscous liquid, unlike the jarrow's fish oil liquid. so it goes down easier, and tastes better.

Sounds like you know exactly what you are talking about. I don't ask myself the hard questions you do, but I do prefer a gel cap.

bruegger84 08-27-2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billie (Post 559450)
Sounds like you know exactly what you are talking about. I don't ask myself the hard questions you do, but I do prefer a gel cap.

i ask mrs D the harder ones....lol

mrsD 08-27-2009 07:30 AM

It looks okay to me. If you want that much EFA (over a 1000mg of EPA/DHA a day, that is your choice).

Barlean's is a company that makes quality products, so there is little to worry about there.

Don't expect much ALA in this product, and if you are concerned with the RATIO of the ALA to LA, taking too much of this will alter that. You can compensate by not eating foods high in LA (omega-6.) You can increase ALA by eating Smart Balance peanut butter, or using flax oil to make your own salad dressings.
Switch to real butter instead of spreads. Things like that.

There are products with higher DHA to EPA ratios like this one:
http://www.iherb.com/Super-DHA-Gems-...Gels/7070?at=0

This is the one I gave my son that improved his ADHD so much.
Previous initial gains were using the standard regular fish oils out there. He jumped forward in high school using this Carlson's DHA.

We use the the SAMs club fish oil-- triple strength. (new)
one cap delivers EPA 647mg
DHA 253mg

bruegger84 08-27-2009 11:07 AM

that's pretty expensive stuff, that carlson stuff.

what about sam's club? do i need to be a costco member to get that? I've tried gnc triple strength but their caps were way to fishy for me.(never had trouble with their lower strength version.) i don't have any sam's club stores around me. so looks like either i'd hafta go with the carlson for 35$ ugh. or go back to my good ol regular GNC, and take 4 a day like i used to, 180/120 epa dha.

its just i want something with a higher dha, like maybe around 200 so if i take 3-4 capsules a day, that would be around 600-800 DHA. a lot of books i read recommend at least 600 DHA

mrsD 08-27-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruegger84 (Post 559664)
that's pretty expensive stuff, that carlson stuff.

what about sam's club? do i need to be a costco member to get that? I've tried gnc triple strength but their caps were way to fishy for me.(never had trouble with their lower strength version.) i don't have any sam's club stores around me. so looks like either i'd hafta go with the carlson for 35$ ugh. or go back to my good ol regular GNC, and take 4 a day like i used to, 180/120 epa dha

The $35 is for 180 caps. My son only took one a day. That would be a 6mo supply for us. If you took 2 a day it would last you
3 months. (that is $12/month). I think that is very reasonable.

You have to be a member of SAMs club to buy non RX items.
I find those capsules fairly large...so that may be in issue for some.

bruegger84 08-27-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 559669)
The $35 is for 180 caps. My son only took one a day. That would be a 6mo supply for us. If you took 2 a day it would last you
3 months. (that is $12/month). I think that is very reasonable.

You have to be a member of SAMs club to buy non RX items.
I find those capsules fairly large...so that may be in issue for some.

i guess you're right, i didn't see the quantity there. looks like I'll hafta wait a little while, as the money in my account is getting kinda low.

bruegger84 09-14-2009 02:12 PM

so i tried the carlson's fish oil, and i hafta say it pretty much stinks a little bit. i get fish oil burps and its made with beef gelatin.

the only thing good about it is the amount of DHA in it.

mrsD 09-14-2009 02:24 PM

Take it with food...that helps.

We had no reflux with fish oil, once we were using it regularly.

Marty SLC 09-16-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 559543)
We use the the SAMs club fish oil-- triple strength. (new)
one cap delivers EPA 647mg
DHA 253mg


The above is what I have been using. I have been on 2 a day since we first talked about my supplements. Though I was on their older version before that on and off.

Is one cap of EPA 647mg and DHA 253mg a good combo?

I'm still having issues when I take this in conjunction with the 400mg x3 daily of Acethl L Carnitine. I'm trying to spread it out on top of the mag that taking. It's a challenge.

mrsD 09-16-2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty SLC (Post 567118)
The above is what I have been using. I have been on 2 a day since we first talked about my supplements. Though I was on their older version before that on and off.

Is one cap of EPA 647mg and DHA 253mg a good combo?

I'm still having issues when I take this in conjunction with the 400mg x3 daily of Acethl L Carnitine. I'm trying to spread it out on top of the mag that taking. It's a challenge.

That should be fine...take it with food for best absorption.
Your combo is a double strength version...so two of them are equal to 4 regular old fashioned fish oil. The trend today is toward concentrated products. There is even a triple strength one now to compete with RX Lovaza.

chokato 10-02-2009 02:06 PM

After reading the details of that fish oil, it is NOT A GOOD FISH OIL. It is moleculary distilled. You do not want that it is oxidized fish oil you are ingesting.
Also a good choice would be wild salmon fish oil not farm raised fish oil.

I really like wholemega by new chapter since it is from wild alaskan salmon and they do not go through heavy processing like most fish oils do.

http://www.iherb.com/Wholemega-Omega...els/18181?at=0 but they do have their own website... newchapter.com

mrsD 10-02-2009 02:22 PM

Here is a link with a list of companies and whether they provide a safe product:

http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=16...FQ4MDQodZRQQ3A

chokato 10-02-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 573557)
Here is a link with a list of companies and whether they provide a safe product:

http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=16...FQ4MDQodZRQQ3A

These are companies that most likely molecularly distill their fish oil though :eek:

That means they use aging diseased fishes or must obtain fishes from contaiminated waters in order to have to go through that process.

Good fish oil should never be moleculary distilled whatsoever because it changes the molecules of the fish oil and you will never benefit from it if it goes through heavy processing.

Make sure the fish oil is from pristine waters so that it doesn't have to go through a purification process thus maintaining all the benefits that real fish oil should.

mrsD 10-02-2009 03:29 PM

With all due respect, I don't think it is possible to guarantee
fish have been taken from pristine waters. I don't think that exists today. I would wonder about a place that guarantees pristine fish.

If you look on the ingredients for that product -- 4 capsules provide 45 mg of EPA.... that means in order to achieve therapeutic levels, you'd need 40 of them. Typically salmon oils are very low in Omega-3 levels.

I think this is rather beyond the general understanding and use requirements of most people.

It is good you are using something... but what you are using is not very potent.

chokato 10-05-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 573581)
With all due respect, I don't think it is possible to guarantee
fish have been taken from pristine waters. I don't think that exists today. I would wonder about a place that guarantees pristine fish.

If you look on the ingredients for that product -- 4 capsules provide 45 mg of EPA.... that means in order to achieve therapeutic levels, you'd need 40 of them. Typically salmon oils are very low in Omega-3 levels.

I think this is rather beyond the general understanding and use requirements of most people.

It is good you are using something... but what you are using is not very potent.

do you know how much epa is in one fish? If you consumed one piece of fish a day would that give you how much of epa or would it depend on the type of fish?

I thought farm raised salmon were low in omega 3 as opposed to wild salmon.

mrsD 10-05-2009 06:33 PM

This is a good nutrition website. One can look up many foods on it.

for example-- farmed salmon, raw:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/f...roducts/4258/2

Fresh:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/f...roducts/4102/2

Notice there is a difference. However, the fish have far more omega-3's than the fish oil capsules.

cooked farmed salmon:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/f...roducts/4259/2

bruegger84 11-21-2009 09:07 PM

I think GNC fish body oils 1000 is not a bad fish oil to take. even though it got related GNC fish body oils got incomplete in the study.


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