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bizi 08-23-2009 02:55 AM

suicide attempt....my neighbor
 
I just got back from the hospital ER.
My neighbor from across the street, I have spoken of her before, her husband died of pancreatic cancer 1 1/2 years ago....took an over dose and gave the same to her dog.
Her dog lady has severe hip dysplasia and other back problems.
She is having her put down as soon as she gets out of the psych unit.
It is all so sad...she has no one.
She is enraged at her POA friends for calling 911 on her.
I went with her to the er and stayed until they had a room for her....She will have to call me for contact I can't call her.
Poor lady is at the emergency vets clinic, charcoal etc.
very sad....
bizi

DiMarie 08-23-2009 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 556661)
I just got back from the hospital ER.
My neighbor from across the street, I have spoken of her before, her husband died of pancreatic cancer 1 1/2 years ago....took an over dose and gave the same to her dog.
Her dog lady has severe hip dysplasia and other back problems.
She is having her put down as soon as she gets out of the psych unit.
It is all so sad...she has no one.
She is enraged at her POA friends for calling 911 on her.
I went with her to the er and stayed until they had a room for her....She will have to call me for contact I can't call her.
Poor lady is at the emergency vets clinic, charcoal etc.
very sad....
bizi

Oh Bizi, I can only imagine how sad she is, but oh it is so difficult for her alone. But, I hope that they can help her see even a new life, alone is better then no life. Too many days to feel the warm sun on our face, puppies to fallin love with, I will pray for her and Lady.
Huge Hugs to you Beth, I am sorry for this to happen.
Di

Hockey 08-23-2009 06:30 AM

Dear Bizi,

"It is all so sad...she has no one."

No Bizi, she has you. You did more for that woman in those awful moments than a lot of family members would. You're a good neighbour and a great person.

She's not yet in a position where she can thank you, so I wanted to do it for her.

befuddled2 08-23-2009 08:08 AM

Beth, Hockey is right. Your neighbor has you. I will pray for your neighbor. It is sad though.

barbara

Mari 08-23-2009 11:32 AM

Dear Beth,

You are a good neighbor.
The hospital will help her.

Take time to do something for yourself.
M.


PS
That is sad about the dog too.

Hockey 08-23-2009 11:52 AM

Dear Bizi,

Mari's right about the dog. Losing her ailing canine friend is going to make things a lot worse for your neighbour. Clearly, this poor soul needs some companionship and a reason to live. It might be worth mentioning the Purina Pets for People/Seniors program to the social worker assigned to her case.

Take Care of Yourself

Pamster 08-23-2009 07:10 PM

Does she go to a church or anything? Maybe she needs some socialization of some sort, it's hard to be alone...I'm so sorry she was this upset and hopeless that she thought what she was doing was the best thing. :(

You're a wonderful person Beth for caring like you do. :)

bizi 08-23-2009 07:55 PM

thank you for you support.
 
Leslie has stabilized and is under constaint observation until they transfer her to the unit. I brought her some clothes and things that she will need.
She had a friend there visiting with her and leslie has agreed to go into counseling that she realizes she needs help. Lady the dog is doing fair but will not be put to sleep. a friend of hers is going to stay with lady at her house while leslie is in the hospital.
This has not been a good weekend, I accidently ran over our next door nighbors cat, it was terrible, everybody loved cinnomon....been a heart breaking weekend.
bizi

Dmom3005 08-23-2009 11:49 PM

Bizi

THis sure has been a rough weekend for you. I can relate to how you
feel after hitting the cat. I'm so sorry its been so bad.

I'm glad someone stepped up to take care of Lady the dog too.
That will brighten the neighbors days till she is out of the hospital.


Donna:grouphug:

Koala77 08-24-2009 02:14 AM

Bizi, I'm so sorry. :hug:

It's so sad that your neighbor felt she needed to resort to this. I really feel for her. I'm also sorry that you've been affected by her pain, and I'm sure that you too are suffering in your own way.

I hope and pray that your neighbor and her Lady will be OK Bizi. Please let us know more when you know. :smileypray:

Sending you some hugs! I think you can probably do with them.


bizi 08-24-2009 11:53 AM

lady is back at the vets today she is not doing too well. she was able to get in my low car , so I took her there this morning.
the vet said something about her liver may be affected...sigh....
leslie is being transfered today to the unit. She called to thank me for my assistance, I told her that I loved her....
bizi

Yellowfever 08-24-2009 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 556661)
I just got back from the hospital ER.
My neighbor from across the street, I have spoken of her before, her husband died of pancreatic cancer 1 1/2 years ago....took an over dose and gave the same to her dog.
Her dog lady has severe hip dysplasia and other back problems.
She is having her put down as soon as she gets out of the psych unit.
It is all so sad...she has no one.
She is enraged at her POA friends for calling 911 on her.
I went with her to the er and stayed until they had a room for her....She will have to call me for contact I can't call her.
Poor lady is at the emergency vets clinic, charcoal etc.
very sad....
bizi

I will pray for her. That is all I can think of to do in this situation.
I am so sorry this happened. :hug:

bizi 08-25-2009 01:07 AM

I must write....
I can't sleep....keep just thinking about how leslie was trying to kill her dog first then herself, the dog kept throwing up the pills and leslie kept giving her more.....how deranged she must have been. She was conviced that the three of them her deceased husband lady and herself would be reunited in heaven.
Lady dog seems to be fine, the vet said that she has severe hip dysplasia but is a chronic disease and common for german shepards. Leslie was convinced that she was dieing so she was trying to put her out of her misery. Lady is everything to her and her last link to harry.
At the emergency room she was falling asleep and having a bit of sleep apnea so they gave her narcan to counteract the narcotics she had injested which woke her up and she was livid that her plans were fouled up. I talked with her tonight and will go see her tomorrow/today...visiting hours are from 6-7. It has been along time since I have stepped on a locked unit, memories keep flooding my thoughts the last time that happened to me. These are not happy memories at all. She will get along fine, talks easily to strangers. I hope she can sleep tonight.
I am going to take extra meds right now, I need to sleep. Between me accidently killing our neighbors cat and this...I am trying to hold myself together.
bizi

Mari 08-25-2009 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 558352)
I am going to take extra meds right now, I need to sleep. Between me accidently killing our neighbors cat and this...I am trying to hold myself together.
bizi

Dear Beth,
Yes, keep holding yourself together. :hug: :hug: :hug:
This is hard for any friend / neighbor to deal with and harder for folks bipolar.
M.

Dmom3005 08-25-2009 05:38 PM

Bizi

We are here to listen.

Donna

bizi 08-25-2009 10:43 PM

I saw Leslie tonight during visiting hours and she seemed fine. Agrees to see a pdoc and take meds if that is what he thinks she needs.
I think she is going to be alright. The place was decent, kind of scarey people but what did I expect? anyway....She will be able to talk her way out of there very quickly....I hope that she is sincere in all of this.
What ever happens...I can not take responcibility for her actions. I will be her friend as best that I can.
bizi

Dmom3005 08-25-2009 11:21 PM

Bizi

You are always a great friend. Just remember to be a good friend
to yourself first.

Donna

Mari 08-27-2009 12:54 AM

Dear Beth,

When I went though something similar with my work colleague two years ago, I had a hard time.

I saw him when I could (not often) and really had to work hard to stay healthy for myself.

I hope that you are at a strong place.
Stay aware of your boundaries.
From your posts you sound ok.
Stay ok.


Is she going to get some social services?
Maybe the social worker at the hospital can be creative and get some care and attention for her.
M.

billie 08-27-2009 01:13 AM

To Bizi, the Brave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koala77 (Post 557556)
Bizi, I'm so sorry. :hug:

It's so sad that your neighbor felt she needed to resort to this. I really feel for her. I'm also sorry that you've been affected by her pain, and I'm sure that you too are suffering in your own way.

I hope and pray that your neighbor and her Lady will be OK Bizi. Please let us know more when you know. :smileypray:

Sending you some hugs! I think you can probably do with them.


Oh, Bizi, you didn't mean to run over the cat. That's one of the worst things that could have happened to you. And it happened to you, you didn't do it. Cats sleep right up under car tires, and you can't see them. You did a wonderful thing for your neighbor, and it sounds like her dog is going to be okay. You have just been through it for all your trouble. Your neighbor doesn't have to be alone. Unless she is housebound, there are all sorts of community things to get involved in. She can later contribute to the SOS board and make a good argument for staying alive. "Oh, when the Lord get ready, you got to move." Not before. And we can't know what it means to die, except that it is the end of chances to get ready to die. Bless yourself for all that you have done. billie

bizi 08-27-2009 04:38 PM

This cat was in front of me and I honked for him to get out of the way and inched my way up and he ALWAYS MOVES....except that horrible day when he did not.

I have not been sleeping well all week....have been missing clients in the morning, think I am caught up with every body now after some jumbling....
My neighbor may be coming home tomorrrow.
When I was in the ER with her she was madder than a hornet that "you all " interveined and took away her dignity and right to die.
She told me three times that she was just going to do it again.
So yesrterday on the phone I reminded her of what she said and she said that was not an option any more that was a one time ordeal and that she " swore to God" that she would not do it again.
Her friends went in the house last night to look for the rest of the guns that the police did not find so hopefully they found them. They could be turned into the police if needed. We took the rest of her oxycontin away.
(There were hundreds of pills).
Her dog lady will be so happy when she gets home and so will leslie who is miserable and scared in that place, there were daily lock down incidents.....
I am going to be her friend as best as I can be.
This will be hard and I will have to set up good boundaries and set limits for her behavior. I hope this doesn't sound harsh it is just the truth.
bizi
who hopes to be sleeping better soon.....

Mari 08-27-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 559868)
This will be hard and I will have to set up good boundaries and set limits for her behavior. I hope this doesn't sound harsh it is just the truth.
bizi
who hopes to be sleeping better soon.....


Beth,
What you say sounds like the truth.
Keep yourself safe.

I hope that you are sleeping better soon too.

M.

bizi 08-28-2009 09:20 PM

My neighbor came home today.
New pdoc said she did not need meds, no therapist referral, wants to see her in a month....
Great!
She is all happy happy happy.
sigh

Mari 08-29-2009 12:29 AM

Oh Dear!
What is that about?
She needs a therapist -- at least that?
Mari

Dmom3005 08-29-2009 01:24 AM

From some experience I have from others. I would say that the person
that she saw knew to a degree she wouldn't follow through. So thought
it a waste of time. Which is just to bad.

Sigh

Donna

Mari 08-29-2009 01:45 AM

Dear Beth,
If it were I, I would have to keep my distance, but it would be hard.
Do what you can Beth.

Do what is right for you and not one second more.

It's quite possible that she will start coping better and do a better job of taking care of herself.

In the meantime, you can find things to do this weekend that are productive and fulfilling.

M.

Hockey 08-29-2009 06:35 AM

No therapy because she might not be compliant???? It infuriates me how patients with mental health problems are given second class treatment. If she’d had a heart attack, even if she weighed 300 pounds and reeked of fried chicken, do you think the hospital would have given her a Twinkie and sent her home? It’s discriminatory and disgraceful. :mad:

Bizi, Just because the professionals won't take responsibilty for you neighbour doesn't mean you should. You've done what you can and more than the hospital did. Take care of yourself. I wish you were my neighbour. :hug:

bizi 08-29-2009 05:57 PM

I am going to give her this book that I read that I like.
It is called healing the addictive mind.
Quote:

Addiction is a human condition that affects most people- fixed in habits of thinking that keep us stuck always awaiting something else,
something more to make our lives complete.
Dr. Jampolky believes that we can change our addictive patterns and relationships by releasing fear from our lives and letting love in.
By doing this we free ourselves from the need of (and the dependancy on)
outsides forces and situations to achieve peace of mind.
I am going to give her a journal.
Yesterday She said she would listen and do anything
that I asked her to do.
She said that this is a new beginning for her, she was going to have business cards made up with her name alone....not leslie and harry.
She is on a new journey.

bizi

Pamster 08-29-2009 06:09 PM

Oh beth, you have been going through some really hard times! Wow I had no idea, I just caught up on everything and don't quite know what to say other then take care of yourself. You didn't mean to run Cinnamon over, like you said he didn't move this time. Crap happens....I am sorry your neighbor has had such a bad attitude about 'people ruining her plans' but sheesh, she was not in her right mind then and doesn't sound like she is in her right mind now if she's all happy to not need meds and to see a pdoc once a month...She needs some serious therapy IMO. :(

Dmom3005 08-31-2009 12:08 PM

Wow, Bizi

I see something in your writing. If she has the business cards made up.
And really makes this change, to me this is the first step in her new life.

Next give her the book. It sounds like a good one. But remember she
has to chose to read it.

Next the journal is a very good idea. I love to journal my thoughts. But
some people instead of thoughts journal poems, and other things they write.
So if thoughts is to hard for her to start. Tell her to write her to do list
for each day. And to add maybe one thought about something she would
like to change or say about herself.

Not sure how to word.

Donna

bizi 08-31-2009 09:47 PM

I did not give her that book....yet.
I think she is doing well considering.
She told me today that she is seeing a therapist in a month...no pdoc because no meds.

Last night, I gave her a book from SARK eat mangoes naked and dealing with the pits...or something like that. and a journal, I told her that she needed to start with " My name is Leslie" and go from there. and I gave her a nice card that says with music that I believe in her.
I spoke with her on the phone for a few moments and she had been gone all day. one of her friends talked to her for 3 hours about all of her own grief issues...leslie jsut listened....I told her that we were all fragile and that we had more in common with other people than we realized.
Every body has stuff that they deal with.
I then nicely cut off our conversation because she had been overloaded with all kinds of activities and she needed to go to bed.
She thanked me today for this.
I think she is going to be ok...I really do.
bizi
I am going to ask that this thread be closed now the title could be triggering for some here.

Koala77 08-31-2009 10:06 PM

Thread closed at Bizi's request.


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