fish oil
 

Hello,

I wonder which Omega oil is best.

My oldest DD is studying Nutriton.
I keep telling her to hurry up!! (ha Ha)

Any way, she said that
Omega 3 is different from Omega 6

they have an affect on the clotting factor in different ways.
That doesn't seem to be taken lightly.

Today my DH emailed me a NYTimes article.
Seems in Europe it is standard protocol to give Omega 3 to heart attack
patients.........although it doesn't happen here.

Which is best for neuro problems?
thank you so much.
Have a great day.
Laura

Omega-3
 

is what you need to consider. Omega-6's are very plentiful in the diet, and the typical American does not need to supplement these (unless they have a
genetic disorder, or are anorexic).

You can get similar benefits from Flax oil taken with evening primrose oil..
since these are converted into the long chain fatty acids that fish oil provides.

Fish oil is mildly thinning to the blood. It is not exactly a blood thinner per se.
If you take Coumadin(warfarin) or are having surgery, then physician supervision is needed.

It is the RATIO of omega-3 to omega-6 that is important. Too many omega-6's are proinflammatory, and stimulate thromboxane, which activates platelets, which promote clotting.

Thanks Mrs. D!!
 

I have a whole bottle of Triple Omega 3-6-9, I CANNOT get these horse pills down & they taste awful.

I'm now eating flax granola that has 400mg. omega 3, when I don't eat this I eat brown eggs with 350mg per egg of omega 3. Should I figure this is sufficient??

I've also used flax flakes on salads,etc. in the past,I don't mind the taste, it's the fish oil I can't stand!

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!

Take care,Buttons

Hey, Buttons..
 

There are new double strength enteric coated (no taste) generic
fish oils now available at both Costco and Sam's club.

Fisol is a brand you can find online (but would cost more).
The trend today is to have the enteric coating so it does not dissolve until
the cap hits the intestines.

example:
http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=4210

The Costco and Sam's club prices are a little more than 1/2 of the Fisol, and the Fisols are not double strength.

I get alot of my omega-3s from food now. If you need really high doses for some issue (doctor recommended etc) then taking caps is the only way.
But Smart Balance makes a flax oil peanut butter now which is very good.--I started using this product this summer.
And I use the Omega-3 eggs also.
There is Smart Balance spread too. So many can just get them this way, unless high doses are necessary (for anti-inflammatory effects).
I also found a gluten free bread with flax... times sure are a changin' ! :p

oil of Primrose
 

Hi MrsD,
thank you so much for the information.

I have been pouring flax seed on my food all summer, good to know. Omega Eggs I will look for too now.

Here's another question.
I took Evening of Primrose Oil for three months and found great relief by the third month for monthly breast pain.......but not for spasticity.

When I revealed this to my internist, he automatically said "go off it." He seems to fear mixing these herbs/vitamins with anything, including life in general.

Any insight as to why? Do you think that after the three months I would have had better results as far as the spasticity pain?

thanks for listening.
laura

Flaxseed in our diet
 

Mrs. D. we probably eat the same bread from Costco, I also like the Squirrell bread-no flour either.

I just discovered the flax granola,it's also from Costco.

Ahhhh...
 

a fellow Costco-ite! LOL

I started at Costco years ago because they offered the NatureMade SAMe I used at rock bottom prices (at least I could afford it then). The money I saved in 2 months on just that purchase paid my membership! From 1.25/tab(retail) to .30/tab.(Costco)

It is so wonderful to see these items available there now. We get alot of things from them, and I like the NatureMade brand they carry too.
I bought my new digital camera there this past May. I've bought software,
printers, and lots of other stuff.

I just saw the double strength enteric coated fish oil, recently at Costco. Previously I was getting mine at Sam's club. Our Sam's here has a bigger food selection than Costco. But Sam's does not carry NatureMade. :confused:

FYI, Most 3-6-9 formulations use Borage oil or Evening Primrose oil for the Omega 6 fatty acids and studies have shown them to reduce the seizure threshold.

Borage Oil, Evening Primrose = GLA/Omega 6 fatty acid

I have a question about reactivity to fish oil
 

Although my son can eat all fish and other seafood, yet he has a major increase in his Tourette tics if he has fishoil supplements. He can take flaxseed oil with no probs

the reactivity to fishoil with increased tics has been reported by many others on Latitudes and elsewhere

I am really curious as to why tho? I could understand if there was an overall allergy to fish, but this is not the case. And no other reaction is seen to the fish oil other than a big increase in tics:confused:

Thanks for that graph, Bernard..
 

It is very interesting!

Here is a copy of the Mayo website on EPO...
from http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/eve...tient-Primrose

I searched this subject on 2 occasions in the past and found one paper using the abbreviation GLA seizures...but the GLA was a toxin..not from evening primrose oil. I can't find it today on PubMed since they reorganized the site.
But a meta-analysis in the past would have tagged that paper.

The warning about GLA involves people who already have a seizure disorder, or who take antipsychotic drugs. The incidents of seizure were very few.
At the typical intake to supplement food, for a normal person, I don't see an issue. But many people take GRAMs of EPO...and when increasing to that
amount, yes, caution is a good idea. Also from the standpoint that one is skewing normal EFA metabolism and may overload certain chemical systems.

Fish oil is basically anti-inflammatory. Also fish oil does affect neurotransmitter functions, supposedly by improving cellular membrane fluidity and hence enhances neurotransmitter effects. This is the postulated theory for why fish oil helps with depression. But I wonder if enhancing neurotransmitter status, it is stimulating dopamine receptor function for TS patients..hence the tics?

People really have genetic variability in handling fatty acids. Males for example are low in conversion to EPA and DHA in vivo compared to females (who carry fetuses who depend on DHA for brain growth). Males therefore, possibly handle fish oil differently, since their needs are less. So this too may change the response a male has to high dose fish oil compared to a female.

Fatty acid chemistry is really complex... so it is difficult to generalize for each person. Dietary use, is easier to handle. When you get into the higher doses, these variabilities become more obvious.

This is the Miller 1998 paper often cited: